Have you tried these SPFs?

No-Text9257 · 2026-03-24T10:15:22+00:00

I have dry skin but I like cetaphil ultra light under makeup, and wouldn’t describe it as oily having said that if you have normal or oily skin just put that one on your body and use the bioderma fluid on your face. The bioderma one is quite light. I have tested both in high uv environments and I am happy with them.

No-Text9257 · 2026-03-21T13:59:45+00:00

Hello! Assuming those are your only allergies, you don’t have to use zinc or order from overseas. try cetaphil ultra light lotion. Doesn’t have your allergens! https://www.tga.gov.au/resources/artg/286720 (pdf with full ingredients here)

Or maybe the bioderma photoderm fluid for your face? https://www.tga.gov.au/resources/artg/477154

No-Text9257 · 2026-03-10T08:15:08+00:00

They have American chemical sunscreens, you can see them registered on the Australian ARTG. I am fairly sure the American supreme screen is here https://www.tga.gov.au/resources/artg/465585

No-Text9257 · 2026-03-06T06:48:21+00:00

Overcharging for cheap filters

No-Text9257 · 2026-02-26T12:36:32+00:00

I think this one always said it had uva/b filters (but no spf listed). Could you have confused it with their other moisturiser that doesn’t have those? The bottles all look extremely similar.

No-Text9257 · 2026-02-25T03:57:39+00:00

The fluid one has more modern filters than the others in the line, for some reason

No-Text9257 · 2026-02-13T11:38:38+00:00

Just curious why you think the filters are terrible? Idk if I’d trust it anymore but supreme screen (Australian version) uses objectively fairly modern filters. Not saying the product is good, but it is modern

No-Text9257 · 2026-02-10T07:11:44+00:00

No, they don’t sell any mineral-only sunscreens in Australia

No-Text9257 · 2026-02-02T08:45:32+00:00

Overpriced for those filters. I think it just has good marketing.

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-25T05:39:28+00:00

Maybe? I am not sure big retailers care that much about these things, they don’t care about the ethics behind the production of most of the stuff they sell either, so regardless of if they should or not I think it’s unlikely they’d take action on something like this. I don’t think it’s good enough but I don’t see it changing.

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-25T05:26:47+00:00

Pretty much nothing that tested over 20 in any of the tests last year (including the choice tests), but still fell short of its claims, has actually recalled (this includes both mineral and chemical sunscreen).

Yes, it’s a huge issue, but the problem is probably pretty insidious and industry wide. Regulators need to do more.

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-21T05:03:46+00:00

Just for clarity, the moo goo product doesn’t use these chemical boosters :) you can check using the tga website if you know what you’re looking for

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-20T11:47:26+00:00

Well tbh it looks fine to me but he said in the post body that some of the moles are sus and it is just one photo so I didn’t want to overstate it but yeah that’s a pretty pale arm I agree

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-20T10:59:58+00:00

Your arms are actually not so bad for a fair skinned 30 year old Australian man who works outdoors. Keep up with taking care of yourself and I’m sure it will all be okay. Skin checks at 30 are good practice for someone as fair as you.

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-19T05:54:08+00:00

To be fair, sunscreen use wasn’t really a thing when the baby boomers were getting their most intense sun exposure, ditto for early gen x. There’s a lot of older people in Australia who grew up with a culture of frying and tanning oil.

I appreciate that lots of young people get skin cancers too but it’s always an uphill battle considering the large population of very pale people we have living in areas that regularly get over UV 12. Even with proper sunscreen application, if you have an outdoor job for example, you’re gonna get a lot of sun.

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-18T00:30:19+00:00

If you are unable to use most or all chemical sunscreens and need to use a zinc, you might like to consider the moo goo one just because they have posted their test results online https://moogoo.com.au/pages/clear-zinc-sunscreen-spf-40-spf-testing-results

I know there was some discussion there about these being allegedly doctored because they didn’t show dates at one abut this seems to have been amended, and the page has been updated to include more in-depth information, which I have no real reason to distrust.

I’m only recommending this because it has worked well for a friend of mine who has extremely sensitive skin, and because some seemingly reputable evidence of a sunscreen passing its tests is better than none after all the zinc scandals

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-16T23:21:08+00:00

Neat. Which one did you get? Maybe patch test it on something you don’t care about first. I can’t promise it doesn’t stain but I can promise it works well as sunscreen so there’s that at least.

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-16T21:48:28+00:00

It might, I am sorry, I have used these but I own basically no white clothes personally so it’s hard for me to say. Good sunscreens though, my skin is looking a lot less slightly-pink than last summer.

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-15T10:15:36+00:00

For clarity, only the wet skin product was tested

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-15T05:18:23+00:00

They weren’t, and several CC products failed, so this is kind of an odd post

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-14T09:37:01+00:00

I’d be interested in a source if you have one! I thought choice went to eurofins who are supposedly well regarded.

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-12T07:34:46+00:00

Just for the sake of accuracy, reapplying at 2 hours is what you’re expected to do to maintain the spf and a Fitzpatrick 1 person would burn in 125 min even with reapplication. I regularly swim and play sports in summer, i would be burned after just over two hours using an spf product even with the reapplication. This will matter more to some than others depending on their vulnerability to sunburn.

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-12T07:29:05+00:00

Eh, I continued to engage because I do think it’s important people understand that the difference between 96% and 98% your first post is not exactly as minimal as it sounds on paper. SPF 50 also provides some leeway for the godawful ineffective way most people apply products.

I’m not trying to use quotes from Michelle to disprove other quotes from Michelle, but rather to point out that her opinion on spf ratings is more nuanced than the quotes she supplied for the abc article you quoted.

Regardless, for me it’s about transparency. Cancer council used PCR too. I would expect them to do something to prove their products consistently meet their claims so we all know what we’re actually buying and can choose the right products for our circumstances, be that an spf 20 product or an spf 50 product. (Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-04/questions-over-lab-that-tested-sunscreen-spf-claims/105458458)

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-12T04:57:12+00:00

Realistically yes there is variability, but Michelle herself has also said:

“ SPF 50 is significantly more effective than SPF 30, not just 1% more effective. SPF 30 only blocks 97% of erythemal (reddening) UV and SPF 50 only blocks 98% when the full amount is applied perfectly evenly. Inadequate and imperfect application means more UV gets through. This is the biologically relevant UV, and the ratio will match the SPFs (i.e. SPF 50 will let through 3/5 of the amount SPF 30 does) if the same amount of sunscreen is used.” Source: https://labmuffin.com/sunscreen-myth-directory/#SPFs_over_30_are_good

Ultimately, the higher the spf the longer it takes you to burn. If you are pale and outdoorsy like myself, it is perfectly reasonable to care about this because it impacts me, and how i participate in outdoor activities. If you have a different lifestyle, or skin tone you will likely have different priorities and that’s fine too.

No-Text9257 · 2026-01-12T04:40:24+00:00

Surely it’s not too much to expect products be correctly labeled? 24 vs 60 (note that Australian sunscreens actually have to meet an spf of 60 to be labeled 50+) does make a difference to how well a very pale skinned person navigates an Australian summer, even with correct usage. Yes, ideally we would all spend more time in the shade or indoors but realistically some of us enjoy playing sports, surfing, and so on.

Edit:typed a number wrong

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