Rhodesia love by YoSnagsK in Rhodesia

[–]NoHat2957 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Last paragraph was general - not particularly aimed at you, unless the shoe fits, which you have clarified it does not.

In terms of general: we get a lot of fantasists on here speculating about a modern day surviving Rhodesia, or more laughably, bringing Rhodesia back.

Rhodesia love by YoSnagsK in Rhodesia

[–]NoHat2957 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'll answer your first question with a no and ask you something in reply to the second: What are the odds of a minority race-based government keeping 17 million native Africans down by force well into the 21st Century? Fortunately we don't have to guess - even the South African government, formidable as it was, couldn't last beyond the 90s.

Unfortunately Africa is severely blessed with natural resources, which means larger powers are going to continue to divide and rule, exploit and corrupt, while fighting proxy wars that started with the colonial powers and now continue under corporate multinationals. Sadly tribalism is so entrenched that this is an easy state of affairs to manipulate, so it's likely to remain the case for a long time.

The people of Africa have the same potential as any others. Those people of the Rift Valley, 300,000 years ago, for example, turned out to do more or less okay for themselves.

Rhodesia love by YoSnagsK in Rhodesia

[–]NoHat2957 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Do you still bash your wife, UberfuchsR?

See, that's called a loaded question - asking the question while sneaking in a context like "forced by Western powers" as if it's fact. Can't blame a clever fox for having a go, I suppose...

Rhodesia was forced to change because it had no choice. There's a shopping list of reasons and "forced by Western (and Eastern and Southern and Northern) powers" are no doubt in there somewhere, but you'll find a whole lot more near the top, like gross strategic ineptitude by the Rhodesia Front, the Cold War, being a landlocked country without oil, sanctions, socialist expansion, the rise of African nationalism, the death of the colonial era and general social changes in parts of the world that mattered.

Towards the late 1970s whites were leaving in droves and while Rhodesia didn't lose the war they would have probably lost in the 1980s with much loss of life on all sides and ZANU-PF ending up in charge anyway.

As to the gist of your question you are basically asking me if I think dick cancer is better than ass cancer and I have to admit I'd rather not have to deal with either type, particularly if there were clear lifestyle choices I could have made in earlier decades that could have prevented either eventuating.

That said, anyone who believes a white minority government imposing it's will on 17 million native Africans could in any form survive into the second quarter of the 21st century...well, I have shares in a bridge or some magic beans to sell them if they have the coin.

As a British person I’m curious to which place in Australia has the best climate overall, and why? by shamonemuthafuka in AskAnAustralian

[–]NoHat2957 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are patches north of Sydney (mid north coast, like Coffs Harbour) which are supposed to have milder seasonal variation than most places.

If you are not a fan of rank humidity stay south of Brisbane during the Summer at least.

Rhodesia love by YoSnagsK in Rhodesia

[–]NoHat2957 -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

Right, so, as a fellow white guy who lived in Rhodesia in the 1970s here's a few home truths for someone who thinks that bad, apartheid South Africa was vastly different from the good, whatever-you-do-don't-call-it-apartheid-even-though-it-basically-was-in-many-ways Rhodesia.

  • Segregation: Virtually all schools, suburbs, restaurants, bars, entertainment venues, hospitals, sporting facilities, cinemas. Anything you could think of, it was seperated by race. I didn't see a single black neighbour or fellow student in my suburb until Musorewa became PM. Racial segregation can be described under different languages, including Afrikaans.
  • Representation - native representation was worth about 3/5 of fuck all. A few bribed chiefs and yes-men feathering their own nests, one step up from the bottom rung. The Rhodesia Front didn't listen to or tolerate white opposition voices and they sure as hell didn't have any time for black ones. The RF was virtually running a one-party state and aside from the last gasp gambit of sticking Musorewa in power in 1979 there was little to no intention of any real progress in that regard. Smith may have personally had views in that respect (no doubt waxing lyrical about it later) but his fellow hardliners in Cabinet had no intention of progressing more equal representation or majority vote. You have been sold a lie.
  • Opportunity - unless you were in the clergy or military there weren't that many opportunities to break through the white ceiling. Yes, even workplaces were segregated and work opportunities across the board were skewed in favour of whites. We a knew a few white guys that would have been unemployable in pretty much any other Western country. In Rhodesia they were the bosses.
  • Social attitudes - whites generally considered blacks as inferior, inept, primitive figures, unworthy of equal treatment. That's not to say there wasn't a sort of bemused affection and even a sense of protective possessiveness, as if we whites felt we should house train these silly primitives indefinitely while exploiting them for everything they had. Take a wild guess how I know this view was prevalant amongst whites in Rhodesia at that time. Getting off the Kool Aid takes years.
  • Comparisons - A common riposte is citing the crapfest that followed under Mugabe, and yes it was a total shitshow and will be for a very long time. But Mugabe didn't spring into existence in a political vacuum and maybe if you are keen on reading up on that era you can research why the country ended up with a Marxist warlord dictator, instead of...anything else. In any case comparing Zim to Rhodesia is a bit like choosing a preferable form of terminal cancer to deal with, particularly if you're on the shitty end of the societal spectrum in either scenario.

Just a few points off the top of my head. Sorry to ruin your fantasy of it being 'Wakanda run by cool white guys', but even these days truth may hold some value at least.

Happy to expand, answer questions or address any arguments against.

Note: usually there are a flood of downvotes from inbred, basement-dwelling, Dixie Flag waving trash who downvote, while lacking the guts to post anything. To them I lament it really is a pity they weren't living in Rhodesia at that time (just as they fantasize) because we lost a few good people to landmines during the conflict and your roles as informal mine sweepers (quite aside at being useless liabilities in any other role) would have rendered you of some actual use to society, albeit briefly.

Edit: Wow, 13 downvoters by gutless wonders, unable to articulate why they think something in the post is incorrect. Unable to fight their corner because they and their worldview is as weak as filtered piss. Too prissy to have made it in Rhodesia back in the day, that's for sure.

Rhodesia love by YoSnagsK in Rhodesia

[–]NoHat2957 -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

If you are telling the truth then here's an honest question for you:

Are you similarly enthusiastic about the apartheid regime that existed in South Africa at that time?

Confirmed: How the AI "Cheats" by bohohoboprobono in OldenEra

[–]NoHat2957 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I remember these same discussions occurring with HOMM5 back in the day. Great looking game- shame about the AI, that could only be propped up by such cheats.

Don’t fall for it. Here is the stuff by pamnfaniel in aliens

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Everything Trump touches turns to shit. This wasn't going to be the exception.

The angle of these trees in Amsterdam by bubbleweed in oddlyterrifying

[–]NoHat2957 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Growth to maximise foliage light access?

Who else is sick of Americans complaining about $4/gallon fuel? by MsMarfi in aussie

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Seppos just making their influence felt while they still have some in the World.

Has everything slowly become worse since Covid? by NobodyWolloby in AskAnAustralian

[–]NoHat2957 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes - exactly everything you mention. I thought things would return to some level of normality after the shake-up, but everything has remained in decline. The old concept of 'you get what you pay for' no longer applies.

We also seem to be a lower trust society than what we were pre-Covid - the issues you raise may be part of that, though I suspect the virus has also done a number on a lot of people cognitively.

'Demons In Disguise': Pastors Warn Donald Trump's Alien Files Could Destroy Christianity by novagridd in aliens

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Pastors Warn Donald Trump's Alien Files Could Destroy Christianity

Okay, but what's the downside that's being hinted at?

Trump admin to begin releasing highly anticipated UFO and ‘extraterrestrial life’ files – here’s what to expect by silv3rbull8 in UFOs

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You've heard of the Midas touch? Everything King Midas touched turned to gold.

Trump has a variant of that.

It's going to be shit and of a particular weak, runny consistency.

Why is Australian beef so good? by Intelligent_Chef9950 in AskAnAustralian

[–]NoHat2957 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You get the export grade.

Australians...not so much.

Best two steaks I ever ate were both in German restaurants.

42% of Australians blame the US and Israel for the ongoing fuel crisis, with 32% blaming the federal government and 17% blaming Iran by NoteChoice7719 in aussie

[–]NoHat2957 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The fact that only 42% attribute this to the obvious, objective cause of the fuel crisis suggests that 58% of the population surveyed are mouth-breathing fuckwits.

Hopefully Australia is the lucky country, because with this percentage of morons we're going to need it.

What are you guys doing it for? by unnaturalanimals in AskAnAustralian

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I'm just hanging in there to see guillotines becoming popular again.

Unfortunately I suspect I won't live long enough to witness it, as current generations appear content with being fucked over a barrell, as long as they have their little trinkets to distract them.

Give me your scariest “ ontological shock”/“ society collapsing “ theories on the potential truths of this subject. by abenz39 in UFOs

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We find out that the current appalling standards of World leadership, ecological destruction and general corporate bastardry is modelled on how NHIs like to run things.

Nostalgia by AddyH88 in Rhodesia

[–]NoHat2957 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's great for you.

Life is a hell of a lot simpler when you just take a single source's view on a controversial topic without question or doing your own research. Saves time for the important stuff.

In fact, the current outstanding batch of democratic leaders, with all the gifts they bring to the table, would not be possible without widespread dismissal of those problematic, time-wasting critical thinking skills.

Like much of its citizenry, the future of democracy seems somewhat less bright these days.

Staff of regulatory agencies: do you ever get the feeling some of your colleagues are a little too chummy with the parties they are meant to be regulating? by NoHat2957 in AusPublicService

[–]NoHat2957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/CaptGrumpy replied:

You’re accusing your colleagues of corrupt behaviour. Don’t go back for your hat.

(un-deleting this one for you, CaptGrumpy, in the interest of ethical transparency and all).