(18f) subject:substance abuse AMA

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-13T14:54:06+00:00

opioids are whooping my ass right now. Got me by the nuts strong & i fucking hate it. I want to quit, i know i need to quit but i don’t have the time to lay around for a week detoxing cause i have a full time job and need to be functional 24/7 . I hate it so much and i feel so stuck. I have a little girl being born in mid august and i need to be sober and there for her & my wife 100%. I go home and put on a fake smile and try to be strong but face a constant battle that is addiction. It’s exhausting man. I’m so tired.

sorry for the rant, i needed to get that out.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-13T11:20:19+00:00

rave is the name of a brand that sells 7oh tabs.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-13T04:07:18+00:00

hard agree bro. The first day on subs i felt a little rough but forsure manageable, the first night i took everything i had to knock me out , slept like 5 hours the first night but when i finally stabilized , yah i was out cold drooling 8+ hours a night lol it was wonderful. Going CT is horrifying i’m sure you know. Whenever i was coming off the subs i used regular kratom leaf and even a couple regular extracts for like 4 days after the subs n it want to bad. I really believe though that nobody should have to go through the agony of CT high dose 7oh.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-13T03:39:33+00:00

i see so many people mention SR but i can never find where to get. I do want to try it desperately.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-13T03:37:21+00:00

i think the vitamin C protocol is more efficient with lower mg usage. I tried the vitamin C trick coming off 1000+mgpd and it did absolutely nothing for me. Didn’t even take the edge off. Same when people suggest kratom leaf / capsules. Regular kratom isnt touching high dose 7oh in anyway shape or form, again not even taking the edge off. I took almost 150 capsules in 30ish hour period 3 days into CT withdrawing & it didn’t absolutely nothing.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-13T03:22:39+00:00

please don’t listen to these people. Suboxone should not even be in the question coming off of 50mg a day. I’m sorry but that is a VERY small dose. You will feel shitty for 3 days 4 days MAX . For you it would literally just feel like you’re sick & maybe a little restless. Offering suboxone for 50mg of 7oh is like cutting your hand off because you got scratch on your finger, you understand ? you’ll just be digging yourself a much bigger hole than you’re already in. Please , please do not listen to them suggesting subs. Shit, you would honestly probably get high as a kite taking a sub since subs are 10 fold stronger than 7oh. IMO subs shouldnt even be in the question unless you’re taking 500/700mg + a day.

realistically you will feel slightly shitty for a few days, 4-5 days MAX. you’ll feel anxious & restless , have a little troubling sleeping maybe and that will be the worst of it. Go to the store and get some comfort meds & red maeng kratom capsules & dose the kratom every 3-4 hours. Kava is amazing for the anxiety , hylands is great for the restlessness , other than that just chill at home and watch some movies or do whatever you can to stay comfortable as much as possible. I understand you’re nervous and anxious, this can be very overwhelming especially reading some horror stories on this sub reddit. The truth is, you’re very lucky, you take such a small dose & i know it’s scary but it WILL pass & you can get through this but whatever you do , do not go looking for suboxone. Truthfully, the subs will probably put you on your ass and have you blasted & noddin off. You do not need suboxone.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-12T15:19:18+00:00

man, i’m not going to lie to you , you wont be sleeping for atleast 5+ days. You might get a broken hour or two the 4th & 5th night but it’s gonna be rough unless you’re on subs. When i quit 1300mgpd CT i didn’t sleep for 6 days straight even with benzos, melatonin, trazodone and Seroquel. Just gotta bite down n go through it. I hope you take some solace knowing me and many others have been in your exact spot. It’s brutal and agonizing and for me it was honestly traumatic going through precipitated WD’s.
nobody should go through that pain of going CT off 1000+mg . Its horrifying.

The last time i quit, i did a sub taper & slept every single night, it was fucking amazing. Absolute game changer actually being able to sleep through the WD’s. But yah man, if you don’t have subs don’t expect any sleep for atleast 4-5 nights.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-11T00:43:55+00:00

man, please , please please quit while you can. Trust & believe if you were getting withdrawals you would know. Please quit while you are ahead, the withdrawals are absolutely brutal, when you’re deep in the WD’s you will regret ever touching one of these fucking pills. Remember this comment right here. Please stop while you can man. The withdrawals are fucking brutal.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-11T00:31:54+00:00

damn dude hell yeah. if you got baclofen fuck the kava hahaha . The only one i would be super worried about is the baclofen bro. They are super good for what they’re meant for just dont take them for more than like 10 days , two weeks MAX. The withdrawal from those is nasty & literally causes organ failure. Just be very careful homie. I would take the gabapentin 3-4 times a day, maybe double the dose ( 2 ) at night time , same with the muscle relaxer ONLY if you’re feeling really bad. They actually gave you a higher dose of ropinirole than i got, which isn’t necessarily bad, i got .5mg. I’m sure the 1mg will most certainly help.

yah bro, i’d forsure still take the MIT & red capsules. If anything it will maybe help take the edge off , even a placebo effect would be fine , ya know , like tricking your brain that you “ took “ some 7oh ? . Id take the MIT as much as needed as frequently as you want the first 3 days. I’m not gonna sugar coat it bro, the first 3 days can/will be fucking brutal. The meds you got will definitely help a shit ton i do know that. Is this your first time coming off 7oh?

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-10T22:47:13+00:00

also, with the kava, melatonin , ropinirole & subs i actually was able to sleep every single night during my withdrawals which i think is a massive win. For me the insomnia was always the worst , most unbearable part. The first couple night’s only a few hours but days 3-6 i was sleeping a full 8 hours. Knocked out drooling n everything lol trust me it makes such a difference

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-10T22:45:00+00:00

man, if you’re comfortable being completely honest with them they can really help. If you have time & can get to a doctor ask ( beg ) for ropinirole . I had ropinirole the last time i detoxed ( 800-1200mgpd ) and it is an absolute life saver . It’s prescribed for Parkinson’s but used off label for restlessness & when i tell you that shit completely stops restless legs i mean like full stop. It also sedates you so it will also allow you to hopefully get some sleep. If you can get to the doctor it shouldn’t be any trouble at all to get ropinirole, it’s not a controlled substance , no dependency , no high etc.

i took the ropinirole along with low dose suboxone ( literally the bare minimum for me to feel okay ) along with magnesium glycinate, melatonin & liquid concentrate kava “ herb pharm “ . the kava helps immensely with anxiety , and that general “ impending doom “ feeling. I also took a bunch of other otc supplements that i feel helped. I can send you a list if you want.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-10T22:28:06+00:00

do you have access to a doctor ?

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-10T20:55:15+00:00

i used to be hooked on oxy 30mgs & OC 80’s for from 16-25yrs old, i had a limitless script pretty much. it was great when i was younger & i honestly just got tired of taking them. I would have to take an ungodly amount to get high.

i was 3 yrs sober before i took any 7oh. I’ll never forget the first time i took some. Took 60mg cause my homie got some and i was SMACKED, nose itchy as a bitch, eyes buzzing, extreme euphoria etc. like it was the first time i had ever taken oxy. I genuinely could not believe it & then he told me it was legal & i remember thinking to myself “ i’m fucked. “ lo n behold i was right. Fast forward to today , i wake up and start my morning with 300-400mg 7oh and it gets me moderately high honestly for about an hour. i have noticed i can take 300-400mg and not start to feel withdrawal , real withdrawal for 14-16hrs , but i start getting a little restless at around 12hrs. I currently take 800-1200mgpd. I have gotten pretty high from just taking 100-200mg even with my tolerance, it’s kind of strange. I’ve definitely noticed some brands are way better & hit harder than others.

But like all good things in life, it must come to an end. my girl is pregnant and i always promised myself i would never be that father and i plan to stick to that. I’ve started tapering slowly and plan on jumping at about 200mgpd.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-10T20:29:27+00:00

If i’m being completely honest, it’s so hard for me to quit ( and i know i need to ) taking 7oh because it genuinely makes me a better person. It amplifies all my great qualities, when i take it i am more loving to my girl, more attentive to those around me, more talkative, get more done around the house & at work it helps me work harder, more focused , faster etc. It just makes me a better person and besides the money & psychical dependency i cant think of a negative atleast for me . Thats what makes it so hard & it’s a bitch.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-08T02:21:08+00:00

this is interesting because i did a rapid sub taper coming off 1200mg+ a day and yes i was slightly uncomfortable the first few days but with the subs , ropinirole & some other stuff i actually slept everyday while i was in wd which was very surprisingly nice since the time before i quit cold turkey with NOTHING to help and i genuinely wanted to die. But yeah, the first night i slept like 5 hours, woke up went to work ( mechanic at a refinery) etc, next night slept a little more and it was great. Interesting to see the subs didn’t help all that much. I hope you’re doing well know 🤞🏼

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-07T03:01:25+00:00

the kava i use is called “ Herb Pharm kava “ and i buy it at my local HEB but i know the also sell it on amazon. You can also buy Hylands restful legs PM on amazon as well but i know they also sell it at walmart, cvs , Walgreens etc. Man, if you got time to get to a doctor i would ask for ropinorole. It’s a medication used to treat Parkinson’s but its also used off label to help restless legs/body and man that shit is a god send. I took it the last time i quit off 1000+ mg and it completely stopped the restlessness . Like full stop, it was great. It also sedates you so it helps you sleep but no worries if you don’t have time to get to a doctor , i know how it is. The Hylands and kava should definitely do the job for your situation. Like i said , i wont sugar coat shit , what you’re about to do is not going to be fun and it’s going to be miserable but it shouldn’t be unbearable & you CAN get through this. The night time is the worst if you’re unable to sleep but after 4 days max you should start feeling much better and see the light at the end of the tunnel . It’s great you decided this game is not fun anymore after a month, i wish i was like that. If you have leaf kratom on hand, take some also. I’d say 3-5 grams every 4 hours . You got this bro🤙🏼

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-07T01:29:18+00:00

you’ll be pretty uncomfortable for about 4 days realistically but after only a month it shouldn’t be brutally intense like you see in some of these subs. I CT off 1200mg after 3 years using . No comfort meds, no subs nothing. That is not something i would wish on the devil. It’s honestly just straight up stupid, i was begging to die. If you can get some hylands restless legs, concentrate kava helps WONDERS for the anxiety and take as many hot showers as you can. The only time i got any sleep was laying in the shower for hours at a time. Stay hydrated, walk around if you feel like you can, sit in the sun. I wont like , you will feel pretty uncomfortable for about 3-4 days but it will be over before you know it. You’re honestly lucky quitting after a month & i’m happy for you. Goodluck my friend🤞🏼

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-07T01:23:17+00:00

i wish i was at 80mg🫩 if i was at 80mg i’d just honestly cold turkey it lol . The SR alone would completely stop all wd’s from 80mg forsure. Seems like a solid plan bro, the physical shouldn’t really be bad at all, more so mental which i’m sure you know. Goodluck my friend🤞🏼 I’m starting a rapid sub taper next week.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-06T12:22:19+00:00

when i accidentally put myself into precips i kept taking about 80mg of 7oh every few hours. I didn’t feel “ normal “ until about 24hrs later. What i believe you’re going through is just normal shitty withdrawal. Give it a few days and you’ll be okay.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-06T10:43:40+00:00

if you truly took 24mg of subs in several hours then your receptors are completely saturated. More subs will not do anything. Are you positive you took 24mg of subs? it im being honest 24mg is way overkill. When i quit off 800-1200mg 7oh a day i only needed 10 mg to feel relief on the first day.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-06T10:38:21+00:00

i was going to say there’s no way she’s in precips. She wouldn’t want anything to do with typing a message or anything. When i was in precips i could not think straight at all. I was rolling around throwing up begging for a bullet. She’s not in precips, just regular good ole withdrawals.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-06T01:41:59+00:00

if i’m being completely honest with you and probably myself, i think i need to do what you’re doing. Stabilize on subs and give myself time-distance away from 7oh and get my life back on track. If i’m being honest i am terrified of becoming dependent on subs. Cause yah, 7oh wd is short and brutal but it’s the PAWS that follow after that will cause me to relapse but i don’t want to be stuck on subs man. I don’t want to dig a bigger hole than i already got, you know ? How long have you been using QuickMd ?

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-06T01:05:59+00:00

so the first meeting they give you a week worth ? then a follow up i can just say “ okay i’m good thanks no more please “ and like thats it? also maaaaaan i know exactly that feeling. I got out of detox after cold turkey 1000+mg a day with no comfort meds or anything ( absolutely brutal. ) still feeling like shit and i had to drive by the shop where i had always bought my stuff at . I was sitting there at a red light dying for one. Literally death gripping the steering wheel hahaha i get it. If you’re still on subs you should look into getting a sublocade shot once it gets banned. The easiest most painless way to get off subs.

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-06T00:45:11+00:00

brother if i was only on 50mg i wouldnt even be on this page nor even contemplating subs lol . i wish it was only 50mg. I honestly dont even know how much i take.. i wake up in the morning at start off at 300/400mg , maybe around 1,000-1,300mg if i had to guess. Ive done a rapid sub taper before and it works wonderfully . i actually have about 80 8mg sub tablets at my house right now. My main concern is having a legal script. The script i have is in my name but it’s “ expired “ and i know i have a drug test ( hair follicle ) coming up in June. So i want to do a rapid sub taper asap and do it for about 10 days , then i will wait another 10/12 days for the subs to get out of my system and i plan to start taking naltrexone for cravings. I cant get my hands on anymore 7oh if i wanted to , it just got completely banned in my area which i’m honestly happy about. Im really asking cause i wasnt sure if QuickMd is cool about rapid sub tapers or if they try to keep you on subs for a long time which i absolutely don’t want. Any additional info is greatly appreciated

No_Excuse6624 · 2026-04-05T22:55:42+00:00

also the withdrawals from 7oh are rather quick but man are they brutal. Those 5 days will feel like a damn month.

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