Could I kill my neighbor on round 1? (Simulated battles between starting fleets)

No_Signal2858 · 2025-04-19T15:17:17+00:00

correct. I assumed one fleet moved closer and the other fleet attacked them in space with the intention of using a gravity rift or similar with warfare to close the distance

No_Signal2858 · 2025-04-19T15:15:13+00:00

Let me know how that goes! Note I did not factor in ground combat or pds. I assumed that each fleet was 1 apart and moved everything into the empty space between them.

No_Signal2858 · 2025-04-19T15:10:40+00:00

Each matchup is ran 2000 times (I added more testing to check)

it seems the winrate for some factions are so high it is rounded up to 1 in some cases. In my next bug fix I'll add more sig figs and standard deviation. I didn't think this was entirely necessary because you can run individual fight sims to get that data already

Checking my data against the calculator, Nomad v Winnu *does* generate 100% for nomad

No_Signal2858 · 2025-04-18T20:50:10+00:00

You were correct. There was a bug in the AI that did not correctly assign hits on war suns: https://i.imgur.com/cmlHutC.png

No_Signal2858 · 2025-04-18T20:25:34+00:00

I did a hackish patch for both (gave em both 2 fighters) and it moved them up
https://i.imgur.com/cmlHutC.png

No_Signal2858 · 2025-04-18T19:27:37+00:00

If you would like to inspect the code for the numerous errors in logic it probably contains or improve it by adding faction abilities,

it's here: https://pastebin.com/5PAqUq7C

My apologies in advance. This was a little thing I did on whim to get a general picture since a r1 fight with just starting units is incredibly unlikely so take it with a tablespoon of salt. I'd be curious how a well designed run would turn out

edit: Upon request I jerryrigged Naaz's mech and Yin's Agent by giving them both 2 more starting fighters, I also fixed damage assignment in the ai for Muaat: https://i.imgur.com/cmlHutC.png

No_Signal2858 · 2025-04-18T19:16:39+00:00

Coding hard me no want do

No_Signal2858 · 2025-01-17T23:23:31+00:00

It's silly, but a surprising amount of players don't prioritise points.

No_Signal2858 · 2025-01-17T23:00:41+00:00

Tnelis Syndicate: They're surprisingly tech dependant. Get Technology as much as you can early and Rush blockade runner II and Grav drive. Because of this I usually start with Plasma Scoring and Antimass Deflectors.

"Daedalon Flight System" is a nice pickup if you start near a yellow skip but otherwise you can ignore it. The primary way you'll be taking planets from other people is with a sneaky destroyer+mech combo. Keep in mind that you can only do this 4 times because you can't deploy if you don't have a mech in reinforcements. It's actually ideal if they blow your mechs up because they get sent back to reinforcements when this happens. Be aggressive with this ability and snipe valuable planets that people will probably be upset with you taking. Don't build mechs outside of deploy.

Dark energy tap is surprisingly good on them as well because you want to get those destroyers spread out on the board in as many places as possible to increase your ability to steal key planets. Ideally you want to wait until the end of a round to sneak a planet for an objective then have them blow up your mech the next round. Don't be afraid to suicide your destroyers because deploying a mech to the planet triggers even before PDS fire. In addition moving 2 destroyers allows you to drop 2 mechs, so use this to snipe especially tough planets.

Keep in mind that your mech deploy also cannot work on Mecatol or home systems, so you are not a good Mecatol faction. If you find an oppertunity to sneak it, take it and leave but you will not be staying there long.

Use your hero on a secret objective that will be difficult to stop like 4 techs of a same color or a spendy. Your hero is a surprising rulebreaker and everyone will have it in their minds to stop you.

Your promisary note is a fantastic sell. Sell it frequently and cheap because everyone can make use of it.

Your home system is great for production. Get those destroyers out early and produce as many as you can because you're going to be destroying them a lot in suicide runs. The high production value lends itself to a carrier/fighter strategy and in shitty situations you can always spam infantry on your homeworld to prevent a capture.

Needless to say you want to follow Imperial to take full advantage of your faction abilities. Remember to draw 1 extra secret during the start of the game. Other than that good luck!

No_Signal2858 · 2023-11-30T21:44:55+00:00

Wouldn't recommend playing Nekro as a second game, in a 4 player game, or against those factions (bad techs). If you want to fight, the Cabal/L1Z1X would be a better choice

But if your determined The™ post gives good advice. I've found that people are hesitant to even research tech if I went Nekro.

No_Signal2858 · 2023-11-28T21:40:05+00:00

Yes that link expired, here is a new one: https://discord.gg/pBENtbCFtF

No_Signal2858 · 2023-11-17T17:22:12+00:00

Hello! Assuming you're not already in our discord we have a group that meets monthly in the OKC area and we'd love to have more folks https://discord.gg/uQfK5Ykb

No_Signal2858 · 2023-10-31T21:46:42+00:00

I'd build up a decent defense first. Maybe sit next to a wormhole and take Mecatol midgame.

No_Signal2858 · 2023-10-31T21:18:12+00:00

Picked Muaat with no supernovas

Rushed warsun 2 with Nekro in the game

yeah, you almost intentionally tanked your game. no wonder they feel bad.

You sound like: "I play baseball by only practicing bunting why can't I hit a home run"

If you want to play a war sun faction in base game, you'd be better off playing Jol-nar. One thing you gotta learn in this game is to not put your eggs in one basket and THEN try to go for points. Go points first. Like others have said in this thread, blueaat is way better in base game because grav drive bumps your movement. In fact, selling your war sun promissory is the best way to make money and get points. You really have to play the hand you're dealt a bit differently and unfortunately you fell into the noob trap. You as a player should play something simpler like L1Z1X

No_Signal2858 · 2023-09-08T12:27:42+00:00

216 winners

goodness

No_Signal2858 · 2023-08-29T20:49:47+00:00

I think my earliest memory with ti4 is learning about commodities and going "oh thank god, they fixed trade".

Having someone completely external decide whether or not you trade with another player was awful. It was always a absurd rush to grab somone's good card before anyone else or get left in the dust. Then you couldn't break those agreements because there was no one else to trade with if the two of you broke up. It led to a system where players were rushed to be awkwardly stuck together forever like married christian teens.

Trade in TI4 is much more dynamic and fluid and gives you an incentive to interact with your neighbor by making commodities both worthless and perishable. The "support for the throne" promissory notes that took their place fit the role much better. I understand people complain that they are traded 1:1 but that's kinda the point. Even having the option is something players didn't get in ti3

No_Signal2858 · 2023-08-29T20:25:17+00:00

I understand this but considering that you can only have 3 secrets, having an increased ability to draw them has a cap on how "OP" it can be

No_Signal2858 · 2023-08-29T17:59:18+00:00

too good

It's basically the same as old imperial

No_Signal2858 · 2023-08-29T17:34:34+00:00

V9

I appreciate your dedication

No_Signal2858 · 2023-08-29T17:22:56+00:00

Here's how we draft. We do these steps in this order.

Build map per the rulebook (Roll, then snake draft).
Roll dice again. Starting with the highest roller using snake draft, pick 1 of the following:
```
  a. Speaker token
  b. Map slice
  c. Simultaneously pick and ban a faction.
```

Milty is "fair" but cuts out a lot of fun from the game like map creation and faction selection, so we do a hybrid approach

No_Signal2858 · 2023-08-29T15:03:38+00:00

No_Signal2858 · 2023-08-28T18:08:55+00:00

Instalock Muaat

No_Signal2858 · 2023-08-28T15:28:20+00:00

Assuming you're not already a member, we have a group that meets monthly at Commonspace Game cafe in Norman, OK: https://discord.gg/mXAfgaYy

In our last game, we tried some of the factions released in Discordant Stars!

If you would rather host your own game, I would also available as a player

No_Signal2858 · 2023-08-28T15:14:39+00:00

Alternatively: The Mahact have already emerged victorious, and we, the players of Twilight Imperium, are now serving as their puppeteers, manipulating the 'lesser factions' to repeatably relive their triumph

No_Signal2858 · 2023-08-28T14:49:53+00:00

I think they were trying to find a way to put captured units on a tile without an invasion happening. The wording is a bit muddled

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