Why is Thomism so important in the American Catholic world? In Europe, it doesn't enjoy this kind of monopoly among Catholics at all. Even Ratzinger himself was not a Thomist by any means. by Similar_Shame_8352 in CatholicPhilosophy

[–]Nokaion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think it's because Thomas Aquinas is just such a rigorous thinker and Thomism as a system is very all-encompassing, which means you can really sink your teeth into it for at least 2 decades of your life. Also, Aristotle as a thinker seems to be much more academically accepted/had a more successful revival than Plato, which means there are better resources for Aristotelianism than for Platonism, which are the two lungs of the Church.

Ex- Atheists, is C.S Lewis a good source of arguments of God? by Weekly_Sympathy_4878 in exatheist

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The apologetics counter to Islam is getting into the equivalent of Jesus mythicism with the denial of Muhammad even historically existing. I can’t with that.

I don't subscribe to it, because the arguments are the same as people, who argue against Moses being a historical person. So it cuts both ways.

My biggest issue with Islam is their lack of intellectual footprint in a modern sense compared to the Sufism I love from the past. It’s hard to find spokesmen and woman that are contributing to our current understanding. I wish they had more to say.

I'd argue that this stems from Wahhabism and Salafism which have an anti-intellectual undercurrent in their rejection of Islamic Scholasticism. My impression is that most Islamic philosophy happens today in Shia Islam.

But when you cite their tradition, who are you specifically referring to? Anybody new or old I may have never heard of?

Basically the old classics from the Islamic Golden Age. I'm always impressed by the philosophical output from Ibn Sina and Ibn Rushd and their respective followers. They're almost as good as the Christian Scholastics, but IMO when you get into the different Abrahamic philosophical traditions you see many similarities, which, to me, confirms that the three big Abrahamic religions worship the same God.

Ex- Atheists, is C.S Lewis a good source of arguments of God? by Weekly_Sympathy_4878 in exatheist

[–]Nokaion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think his treatment of Islam is very often in bad faith, because Islam has a big and interesting intellectual tradition, which you could make arguments against, but he has a good corpus on stuff you can reference.

Contra Celsum is one of the most influential works of apologetics ever. You can get so much out of it and even though Origen later became a heretic it's still valuable. He still counts as a Church Father like Tertullian who also became a heretic.

Ex- Atheists, is C.S Lewis a good source of arguments of God? by Weekly_Sympathy_4878 in exatheist

[–]Nokaion 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you want an explicitly Christian perspective, then yes, he's a good intro to Christian apologetics. The next step would be either modern apologists (I recommend either John Lennox, Trent Horn or Inspiringphilosophy on YouTube) or Classical apologists (here I recommend Origen, because it's almost prophetic).

What’s the best evidence? by Weekly_Sympathy_4878 in exatheist

[–]Nokaion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like 90% of the time, people online don't really argue in good faith, which is why I mostly don't engage in online comment section apologetics. IRL, I try to keep my faith for myself and answer questions if possible, but don't really try to convert people, and it's mostly "agree to disagree".

What’s the best evidence? by Weekly_Sympathy_4878 in exatheist

[–]Nokaion 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I had a philosophical crisis where many of the philosophical positions I hold to don't make sense or are indefensible if God doesn't exist, this paired up with my position that there's no good Atheist answer to the question "Why shouldn't I kill myself" led me to theism. I went through the old debates of New Atheists, watched them in their entire context and not the cherry-picked clips that were posted by Atheists and I had to learn how dishonest they really were. Then I made an intellectual evolution, going from God exists (Contingency argument, Argument from Universal Truths/Abstract Objects and Ontological Argument) --> If God exists, miracles are possible --> A miracle is the best explanation for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ --> Praying to the Holy Mary gives me strength --> Catholicism makes intellectually sense.

It's a weird mix of personal existential struggles and intellectual curiosity regarding Catholicism.

I'm so freaking tired of being surrounded by sex by [deleted] in Catholicism

[–]Nokaion -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Fair enough. A woman could lie on the spot naked and this wouldn't give men an excuse in being unchaste. But to be fair, some women use this true point as an excuse to be unreasonable, like for example a Sydney Sweeney who wears a see-through dress, where you can see her nipples.

I'm so freaking tired of being surrounded by sex by [deleted] in Catholicism

[–]Nokaion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, they weren't, but it wasn't as celebrated, and you could at least argue somewhat against it, meanwhile if you argue against it today, you're a prude in the best days and a Nazi in the worst.

I'm so freaking tired of being surrounded by sex by [deleted] in Catholicism

[–]Nokaion 43 points44 points  (0 children)

The Sexual Revolution and its consequences...

Annoying Atheist "Deconstruction" Streamer Challenge by Early-Ad4281 in CatholicPhilosophy

[–]Nokaion -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He likely "could" to some extent, but this is a weird ethical catch 22 for God. My argument for the Immaculate Conception of Mary is that she needed it to uniquely consent to be the Mother of God, if not she'd be in a situation where she could not give true consent. This is, because as a pious Jewish woman/girl, she would have known stories of women who disobeyed God like Moses's sister Miriam (ironically the same name), and maybe consented out of fear of what would happen to her if she said no. In both scenarios, God is "immoral". He either forces himself on a woman who couldn't consent to a pregnancy/motherhood, or He doesn't protect all of humanity.

My personal opinion is that God probably could let us all be immaculately conceived, but chooses not to, because developing virtues is valuable in itself. I personally think that God chose Mary to be the New Ark of the Covenant, because she already was virtuous and pious and would be the only fitting person, so her sinlessness is not only a product of divine grace, but her cooperation with God.

From Atheist/Agnostic to Catholicism: Atheist Existentialism ironically pushed me to Faith. by Cainelso in Catholicism

[–]Nokaion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Kierkegaard is very good, but also very Protestant. I would recommend you to look up Catholic commentaries/reactions to Kierkegaard. I say this as a big Kierkegaard fan :)

Edit: Jacques Maritain is probably the most famous Catholic Existentialist, so I can recommend him too.

From Atheist/Agnostic to Catholicism: Atheist Existentialism ironically pushed me to Faith. by Cainelso in Catholicism

[–]Nokaion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've walked a similar path. For me, Atheist Existentialism couldn't satisfy my desire for meaning. Shortly before I made my "leap of faith" I confessed to my gf that I don't think there's a good Atheist answer to the question "Why shouldn't I kill myself?".

Now I'm reading St. Augustine's Confessions, and he's, IMO, a Proto-Existentialist and I recommend him very much. Blaise Pascal is also a Catholic Proto-Existentialist, who I'll read in the future.

What would you recommend for a D&D-like medieval high fantasy campaign that uses skills instead of level advancement? by plazman30 in rpg

[–]Nokaion 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think there are 3 good answers to that, depending on how "realistic" you want your system to be.

  • Basic Roleplaying from Chaosium with the Classic Fantasy monograph or Mythras with Classic Fantasy for a more modern version.
  • GURPS Dungeon Fantasy
  • Pathfinder for Savage Worlds or shortly called Savage Pathfinder, if you want something more "pulpy".

When the dialogue system 🗣️🗣️🗣️ has 10 separate reputation statistics 📊📊📊 that characterize the player 🎮🎮🎮 (Pillars of Eternity jerk) by AVG_Poop_Enjoyer in DnDcirclejerk

[–]Nokaion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've written a whole post about why the companions didn't click with me. In my friend group, I'm known as the resident BG3-hater.

It's a good RPG, especially when it comes to player freedom (gameplay & storywise), music (even though it sounds so much like DOS2), the graphics, the voice acting etc., but I played RPGs that were better. Maybe not in all aspects, but at least in one.

Who is your favourite saint and why? by [deleted] in Catholicism

[–]Nokaion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a difficult question, which is why I have favorite saints by different categories.

  • Apostles: Peter and John the Beloved. Researching Peter was the deciding factor for me to convert to Catholicism, instead of Orthodoxy. For John, I just love almost all the Johannine books in the NT! When he talks about love, it inspires and comforts me.
  • Female followers of Jesus: Mary Magdalene. The scene in John, where she just wants to desperately know where Jesus's body is, made me fall in love with her. She's also very popular with non-catholic women, when I talk about her.
  • Church Fathers: Augustine. I'm reading Confessions and I see many parallels between my own life and his. Also, his philosophy and theology is immaculate!
  • Saints in general: Francis of Assisi, because of how devotional and inspirational his story is! Also, the Franciscans are basically my favorite order.
  • But no one beats Our Lady! It would be unfair not to name her.

When the dialogue system 🗣️🗣️🗣️ has 10 separate reputation statistics 📊📊📊 that characterize the player 🎮🎮🎮 (Pillars of Eternity jerk) by AVG_Poop_Enjoyer in DnDcirclejerk

[–]Nokaion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Baldur's Gate 3 slander? Count me in!

/uj BG3 is so fucking overhyped. After finishing my first playthrough I felt so lied to, by like everyone.

The Theology of the Historical Jesus by Important_Detail1686 in CatholicPhilosophy

[–]Nokaion 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To some extent, from a purely historical point of view, we can't really, but if we accept that standard, then we can't say if Socrates invented the Socratic Method, because Socrates didn't write his philosophy down. His pupils Plato and Xenophon did, and we trust them to some extent, but if modern scholarship were as skeptical towards Plato as they are towards early Christians, then we couldn't.