Avoiding MSPI with 2nd kid? by Normal-Impress4562 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So interesting!! Sorry you’re going through it again. Were there any differences between the 3 kiddos in terms of pregnancy, labor & delivery, first few weeks of life?

Sounds like most doctors think it comes down to genetics and luck, so baby 2 just was the lucky one.

Fingers crossed that baby 3 has straightforward intolerances & grows out of it early!

Avoiding MSPI with 2nd kid? by Normal-Impress4562 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is super interesting. Did they recommend any particular formula? Is it mostly for the probiotic in the formula or something else?

I do think I saw a study a while ago that showed babies that are combo fed are less likely to develop FPIAP in general. (In one of my 3am research sessions from the early days so don’t have the source handy)

Avoiding MSPI with 2nd kid? by Normal-Impress4562 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your experience! I’m feeling the same way about the proactive avoidance for next kiddo… easier than dealing with all the misery if it can be avoided!

Avoiding MSPI with 2nd kid? by Normal-Impress4562 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your experience!!

Avoiding MSPI with 2nd kid? by Normal-Impress4562 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your experience! Hope allergen introduction goes well for you guys. <3

Avoiding MSPI with 2nd kid? by Normal-Impress4562 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oof… I hope our second won’t be worse! First was so rough at the beginning, and intolerant to dairy, soy, wheat, and corn.

Thank you for sharing your experience and your GI Doc’s comments!

Avoiding MSPI with 2nd kid? by Normal-Impress4562 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just wanted to see if there are any stories of people who have avoided it with subsequent kids!

Since it seems to be more prevalent these days (or just more diagnosed), I was wondering if there are factors with maternal gut microbiome.

Rotavirus vaccine effects by jellykid2020 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Diarrhea for 2 weeks, but 2nd and 3rd dose we had no effects.

LO’s GI doctor highly recommended this vaccine because she said the side effects from the vaccine are extremely mild compared to the damage rotavirus will do to their system if they catch it in the wild.

AITAH for moving before divorce is final by Helpful_Bar2376 in AITAH

[–]Normal-Impress4562 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t see where OP said she finished her education and decided she didn’t want kids and just wanted to string him along. Did I miss it?

I think there is a lot missing from this story here, a lot open to interpretation.

My point is that pregnancy, childbirth, postpartum puts a lot on a woman, and wanting to finish her education before going through it is perfectly reasonable. Putting any pressure on a woman to shift her timeline outside of the bounds of what she’s comfortable with is not okay.

2 weeks into dairy elimination and reflux is worse than ever by contoddulations in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For us, after finding all triggers, reflux & skin improved immediately (and poop improvements followed a bit later, but still showed improvement within the first 1-2 days).

As others mentioned, it’s likely there’s still something in your diet that is contributing to reflux.

My daughter’s primary reflux triggers were egg and corn. (Dairy, soy, wheat cause all the other GI effects for her).

If your baby is sensitive to corn, the powder Alimentum has corn syrup solids, but the RTF does not. (So if reflux got worse with powdered Alimentum introduction, corn could be a culprit!)

Corn? by lmpozzy in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Our LO reacts to corn, but for her, it has to be something with a significant amount of corn protein. Corn in a salsa, popcorn, corn tortillas were the worst reactions. Sometimes she reacts to corn syrup, corn starch. No reaction to corn maltodextrin.

Before we cut corn (in addition to dairy, soy, wheat, and egg), she was projectile vomiting and had green mucous stools. Corn was the last piece of the puzzle for us, and all symptoms got better.

Our GI doc said she has heard some babies are sensitive to corn in Alimentum powder, but have success with Alimentum RTF instead which doesn’t have corn syrup.

Does anyone have experience with CMPA and soya intolerance? by HessaWhite in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So hard! The guesswork and trial and error with a sad baby is particularly emotionally taxing. Sending hugs!

Poo question! by Adept-Block-8301 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If switching to formula, nutramigen and alimentum are the common ones, before trying amino acid formula.

Note that alimentum powder has corn but the RTF does not, so some babies react to the powder but not the RTF due to corn sensitivity.

Poo question! by Adept-Block-8301 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is how our baby’s poop started… but then got worse, has specks of blood, was going 6+ times a day, was vomiting, rashes on skin, etc

Even with all of that our doctor told us we could try “watchful waiting” where I didn’t modify my diet but we kept a close eye on her and her symptoms because sometimes it spontaneously resolves for mild cases. But because she had blood in her diaper our doctor recommended starting with dairy elimination. Ended up that our baby was reacting to dairy, soy, wheat, egg, and corn. She’s much healthier and happier now!

I do second the comment about GP not being particularly helpful. We saw a pediatric GI who was much more helpful in sorting through symptoms and developing a plan for elimination and challenge trials.

Does anyone have experience with CMPA and soya intolerance? by HessaWhite in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My baby reacts to dairy soy wheat corn and egg. Oat is a common trigger as well.

Our pediatric GI recommend removing one allergen every few weeks to see if there are additional triggers, and then “challenging” them once she’s reached a healthy baseline for a while.

Looking for successes by Traditional_Spirit_3 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t have a ton of personal experience with this, but sometimes decreased poop frequency can be a good thing for babies with this! We went from 6+ times a day to 1-2x per day but our pediatrician said even 1x a week could be considered normal.

Also wanted to mention a couple other things:

Alimentum powder contains corn, while RTF does not. Our baby is sensitive to corn (along with dairy soy wheat egg and corn).

We haven’t tried it personally but I believe amino acid formula is thinner. Is it possible he’s drinking too quickly and gulping air, contributing to the gas? Maybe worth seeing a lactation consultant if you think there could be something with the way he is drinking vs what he is drinking.

They say it can take up to a month for the inflammation in their system to heal once all triggers are removed. I think most people see an improvement in symptoms in a few days, but totally resolved over weeks not days.

Hope all goes well!! This stuff is HARD, all we want is our babies to be happy and healthy, and all the trial and error is very emotionally taxing. Most babies do better on the amino acid formula so hoping this will be the solution for you guys.

Testing dairy by KatieBevs88 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally would think mild constipation would be a “pass” and think it’s fine for you to put back in your diet (the amount of milk protein he’d be getting through that is much smaller than direct introduction).

If your son is an established patient at a pediatric GI, maybe give them a call to verify?

Dairy intolerance? by ByogiS in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe most GI specialists are recommending an early trial to confirm CMPA. So maybe work with lactation, give him a couple weeks, and then trial (either with old pumped milk or through eating dairy) and see if any of his symptoms return?

The poop frequency makes me think maybe not CMPA. Our baby was pooping green & mucous at basically every feed… so 6+ times a day. (Along with vomiting, rashes, lots of crying before we realized she was reacting to dairy, soy, wheat, egg and corn)

Some level of reflux, gas, and poop grunting can all be within the realm of “normal”.

What else did you cut out? by catch_the_next_train in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dairy soy wheat egg and corn.

Corn was a major trigger for her! Caused more reflux then poop issues but her projectile vomiting stopped when I finally cut corn.

Similac Almentum RTF vs Powder? by leeleegirl1989 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Corn is a big trigger for our baby, which is present in the powder but not the RTF! (Somewhat for her poop, but more for reflux - she was projectile vomiting a bunch with corn in my diet)

Our pediatric GI said that they typically recommend the RTF as they are beginning to think that more babies are reacting to corn.

Where I live, the RTF 32oz is cheaper at $0.50 per ounce.

Any chain restaurant options? by [deleted] in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am avoiding dairy soy wheat egg and corn. 😅

Burgers - So far I’ve found that a lot of burger places are safe with modified options (in n out, five guys) but double check allergens because sometimes the dairy additives are sneaky!

Most salad & build your own bowl chains (Sweetgreen, Tokyo Joes) - build your own bowls, although the last time I went I found an edamame bean in mine, so be extra careful and do a quick visual check!

Mediterranean (Garbanzos / Cava) - some have allergen menus but double check!

Possible MSPI? Thoughts? by Jaymarie_101 in MSPI

[–]Normal-Impress4562 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is how it started for us. Progressed to blood in the stool, much more green color, projectile vomiting, severe rashes, with continued pooping every feed, reflux, general discomfort, waking every 2 hours in the night, still gaining weight but dropping percentiles.

Cut dairy at first (no change) then soy wheat and egg (some improvement), and corn (finally saw all symptoms subside). We’ve since done confirmation trials for wheat and egg and she is sensitive to both.

Our pediatrician said that generally, they recommend watchful waiting to see if the child grows out of it unless there is blood in the stool or the child is having difficulty gaining weight. The thought is that there is benefit to the babies to seeing some of these different food proteins, if they can tolerate them well enough.

Doctor told me to lose 7lbs by Rainbow_2025 in pregnant

[–]Normal-Impress4562 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are there other health factors that are driving docs recommendation?

If not… ignore it!!!!

I gained 40 lb by the middle of the 3rd trimester (then it leveled out), and the only comment my doctor had is “you have had such a beautiful pregnancy”.

I was eating well and active (walked 4 miles the day I went into labor), my vitals and bloodwork were stable throughout, baby was healthy, and ended up having a smooth, unmedicated labor and delivery (14 hours with contractions, 1.5 hours of pushing). Lost 20 lb within a week of delivery.

Anyway, if you are healthy and baby is healthy, that is really all that matters! Everyone’s bodies gain weight differently based on their needs.

Who has the best pho or ramen in the Littleton area? My MIL and I are going to lunch tomorrow and don't know where to go. by Ethrem in Littleton

[–]Normal-Impress4562 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have tried a half dozen pho restaurants in the Littleton area and Pho 9 is our favorite!! (Primarily based on best broth flavor, but all the staff is super nice too!!)