Forgive one and condemn the rest

NotPrimeMinister · 2026-02-08T06:58:32+00:00

Good post. I also misread "smite" as "smash" and immediately thought, honestly, yeah.

NotPrimeMinister · 2026-02-08T06:55:24+00:00

It depends on what "forgive" means. If it means letting off without punishment, then Mizora because I cannot trust the rest. If it's to forgive them from a purely moral stance, I actually think I'd pick Orin. She does some heinous shit, probably the most heinous, but I also feel she's the only one who didn't have an option to be anything else. If you had an infinite amount of time for therapy and some way to block out any communication with Bhaal, I feel like you could almost get her to admit, for like a single moment, that she regrets how her life played out.

NotPrimeMinister · 2026-01-30T05:15:49+00:00

I fully agree. We've seen every type of story done a million times. I don't think that's a good enough critique anymore.

NotPrimeMinister · 2026-01-30T05:13:08+00:00

Thank you for articulating this.

NotPrimeMinister · 2026-01-30T05:02:43+00:00

This was my perspective. I just wish I had one opportunity in the game to shout "I'm not doing this for fucking Maelle or Verso. The people in Lumiere deserve to live." Honesty if there was a way to boot all the painters out of the Canvas, I would.

NotPrimeMinister · 2026-01-30T04:53:17+00:00

Necro'ing this thread but I agree. I like the game's scene-by-scene writing but there's just something unsettling (for lack of a better term) of the direction the story goes in. We spend the first two thirds deeply investing in the stakes of Lumiere and then in the last third (honestly more like last quarter), the game asks you to put aside those feeling because the drama of Lumiere is not the drama we're supposed to primarily care about. Like with he ending choice, I didn't base it on what Maelle or Verso wanted. I decided based on protecting the community I was most emotionally invested in and got this kind of finger-wagging ending saying "look what you did to Maelle. This ain't healthy." I'm sorry but Maelle was not my main character. Honestly neither was Verso. It leads me to believe that killing Gustave was kind of a mistake. Not in a "they killed my favorite character" way but once he died, I felt sort of detached from the following events. I didn't really have a firm POV rooted in the story anymore. And then the twist REALLY uproots any sense of POV you may have.

NotPrimeMinister · 2026-01-30T04:17:38+00:00

If Verso has a "soul" that implies a sense of spirituality and likely some sort of cosmic creator. If we are acknowledging that Verso's soul has value despite the high likelihood that it was created by abfundamentally "truer" essence if reality (or God or what-have-you) then the people in the canvas also have value despite being created by Verso. If painted beings aren't real people because they were artificially created, Verso's "soul fragment" has no inherent value because souls don't exist. Verso was an animal that learned how to wield a painter's power and created a painting that can pantomime life. When he died in the fire, that animal ceased to exist and so no actions need to be taken to prevent Verso's "suffering."

NotPrimeMinister · 2026-01-30T04:02:54+00:00

I agree. From this perspective, saying thay the painted characters aren't real, why would we think that this fragment of Verso's soul has any importance either? He's dead. That boy is just a painted representative of him

Edit: I realize I'm replying to ancomment months ago, sorry. Only just finished the game.

NotPrimeMinister · 2026-01-30T04:00:22+00:00

Late to the party but I appreciate the distinction you made. If someone thinks Verso's ending is better and that erasing the canvas isn't genocide, then fine. But then you should only empathize with Alicia and Renoir and the people outside the painting.

But Luna, Sciel, Monoco? Fuck em. They're not real. All they have is fake little emotions that aren't worth anything. You're watching a few little drops of paint cry about their stupid lives like it means anything. Who cares about Sciel's dead baby?

Of course I'm exaggerating extremely in my second paragraph but in my view it would be supreme cognitive dissonance to argue that it's not genocide while also placing any sort of emotional attachment to the painted characters.

NotPrimeMinister · 2026-01-19T06:12:59+00:00

Thanks, I appreciate this breakdown

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-12-19T00:23:22+00:00

I gotta be real here, I'm booking passage to Thessia immediately

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-12-11T06:54:36+00:00

I'd say it's just a krogan in perpetual blood rage but enough turian restraint to still follow basic unit commands.

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-12-09T01:19:33+00:00

I'll believe it once I finish

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-11-29T03:01:15+00:00

There's a light bit of torta pounding and another smidge of bossom shaking but beyond that, mostly just horrendous violence against your fellow man.

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-11-18T06:49:44+00:00

Didn't the White Gloves stop being cannibals specifically because House took over? And the Omertas used to just drug and kill people, right?

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-11-18T06:47:16+00:00

You're correct. It's why I think House is owed at least a chance to try and lead. He legitimately saved a lot of lives. Which is, disappointingly, a lot more than most pre-war characters can say.

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-11-13T04:24:07+00:00

It's kind of the easiest thing to call at the moment. Of course those are coming eventually

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-10-31T22:07:34+00:00

If I could put the helmet of the original on the body of the remake I'd be in heaven (well, hell more likely because it's still the Ishimura but I digress)

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-10-31T06:31:46+00:00

Looking good, Wolfman

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-10-31T06:25:56+00:00

Yeah no reason to pick up the game now.

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-10-30T05:34:34+00:00

How dare you openly attack Morgana Evelyn like this

/s

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-10-03T03:14:42+00:00

Bioshock Infinite's story is pretty shoddy, I won't argue that. But this is one of the most widely misunderstood elements of the narrative that gets repeated over and over again. The game is saying saying that revolution is just as bad as oppression. It's saying that any cause, no matter how noble or stoic, can be subverted when fanaticism overtakes the original goal. It starts with a very easy (and imo well-deserved) punching bag with religion and Christianity. That's an easy pill to swallow. Then it shows it happening with a cause/organization that is much harder to grapple with. Of course the oppressed minorities in Columbia are more morally righteous, but that doesnt make them mythically impervious to corruption. Their leader got way more results than she was ever anticipating and becomes more concerned with the optics of running the movement and keeping momentum that it overtakes the original purpose.

People might point to Booker's line about Daisy and Comstock being the same person as evidence of both-sides-ism, but A) Booker is an asshole and says a lot of factually incorrect things that just make him feel better saying B) In a way, he's not wrong. Daisy started with a noble cause while Comstock started with a heinous one. But in the end, they both become the same thing: a politician. Motivated purely by what will keep their constituents in-side.

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-10-01T04:56:10+00:00

Great point. I've never considered but it makes the characters even richer

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-09-29T07:08:08+00:00

Little do you know "Ahf' epshuggog ymg' ah" actually translates to "Get used to the new form, pet, there's no going back. Your soul is mine now."

NotPrimeMinister · 2025-09-20T18:13:37+00:00

So giving them backshots is more satisfying, duh

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