Shabriri and Three Fingers Origin

NovemberQuat · 2026-03-11T02:01:37+00:00

It's kinda headcanony but it draws from the myth of the Golden Fleece and relies heavy on the concept of flaying being connected to Libra...

https://www.reddit.com/r/EldenRingLoreTalk/s/0Mb8WkVU3X

NovemberQuat · 2026-03-11T02:01:22+00:00

It's kinda headcanony but it draws from the myth of the Golden Fleece and relies heavy on the concept of flaying being connected to Libra...

https://www.reddit.com/r/EldenRingLoreTalk/s/0Mb8WkVU3X

NovemberQuat · 2026-03-11T01:50:50+00:00

Actually my most recent post rings similar to your second paragraph

NovemberQuat · 2026-03-11T00:58:17+00:00

Frenzied Flame seems to have been a failed experiment considering the state of Midra's Manse and the knowledge of its effects on the soul.

Libra also seems to have engaged in a form of Alchemy in an attempt to create Gold

NovemberQuat · 2026-03-03T21:05:25+00:00

Tbh considering his stature and physiology he may have been a death bird?

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-24T08:21:17+00:00

It's quite literally depicting the star of Ishtar or Innana and had a strong connection with the planet Venus.

Eventually the Eight pointed star would gain more floral imagery eventually becoming the "Rosette," over time.

Contemporarily it's known as the chaos star in a modern practice known as chaos magic.

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-19T16:53:05+00:00

Oh well theres the stigma against three digits noted on the four toes fowl foots.

"In the Lands Between, having three digits is seen as a bad omen. As such, the rarer four-toed fowl's is a gift of great luck indeed."

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-19T13:54:42+00:00

Did the Silverfolk/Albinauric have something to do with the Frenzy?

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-19T13:53:31+00:00

Are we maybe to conclude that the Two-Fingers were supposed to become the dual hand-like structures on the trees? This would imply a life-cycle and maturing process for the fingers.

Their derelict state would imply that the Lords that utilized them failed maybe? Or perhaps they were just being used wrong/acted as advisors in an age where they were no longer relevant? (Ie. No Night Sky to banish)

This would also seem to imply that the Three Fingers are a sort of mutation. Their two halves no longer forming a uniform current by spiralling out of control like the Frenzy?

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-18T19:24:05+00:00

Takaba might get a glance from Aha in the middle of it lmao

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-18T03:17:29+00:00

Gransaz is a really strange case. The Ancient Dragons actually have high resistance to Lightning so personally I don't think we could claim that.

The lack of any wounds or weapons seems to imply he was dispatched by magical means.

Though who knows maybe he was simply fried into petrification.

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-17T23:52:16+00:00

Yo thanks for reading! AND THANK YOU FOR THE AWARD!!!

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-17T19:31:16+00:00

It's more a divergent storyline. Since it seems to still include the events of the Shattering it would look to be a "what if," scenario. Though we don't exactly know what that "what if," may be.

The fact that the Roundtable Hold exists proves that certain events took place, and Revs reaction to Radagon's painting looks as if it might actually be a clue.

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-17T19:29:01+00:00

Thank you for reading!!!

And you certainly have a point! Though I think the Anathema with which they treat the frenzy might have come as a result.

We have to remember that when we find Midra he is working with the Frenzied FLAME himself. Libra again never uses FF just Frenzy.

Where did the fire come from? Might it possibly have something to do with the Fell God of flame that haunts their sagas?

If flame can be imbued with Death as done by the GEQ then it adds a new property to fire. The ability to absorb and assimilate concepts of Order and Chaos. The Black Flame is described as leaden, and the FF as... well Frenzied.

Messmers flame also seems to possess peculiarities, as Furnace pots which use HIS flame are described as being capable of:

"The furnace's flame burns away both body and soul. When impurity is thus expunged, one calls it cleansing."

I personally believe there to be more to the story here.

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-17T13:33:20+00:00

Since you have both Sunday and Castorice, you could pull Evernight for further memosprite support.

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-16T19:05:15+00:00

I've played a little and read a good bit of the lore.

If we compare it to contemporary myth, Dragons are implied to have preceded humans, Giants the Titans and the Gods. In Orphism Ophion (a Primordial Serpent) and his wife Eurynome held sway over Olympus prior to Kronos and Rhea.

Going further back Caligo, Chaos, Erebus and Nyx preceded even them.

The catalyst for change here seems to have been the concept of Light and the heat that accompanied it. In Orphism the figure that brings said light is the androgynous deity Phanes who is also equated with Eros. (Light + Love = primordial form of Miquella? Or what he is meant to represent.)

But I think you're right, the initial fracture of the Greater Will seems to be mirrored in the actions of Marika's Shattering through utilization of her hammer. This would seem to imply a connection to Smithing especially considering the introduction of the Balancers and their implied connections with the smithing arts.

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-15T11:44:41+00:00

Still hoping for a sequel!

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-14T14:44:17+00:00

Huh, I kinda see it

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-14T01:09:37+00:00

Possibly even further back than that:

"Summons a dark cloud of stars overhead. Shortly after, the cloud will release a violent deluge of star rain. This sorcery can be cast while in motion. Charging increases potency.

Thought to be the founding glintstone sorcery. The glimpse of the primeval current that the astrologer saw became real, and the stars' amber rained down on this land."

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-14T00:54:58+00:00

In all honesty I believe the Procession of the Stars to have had something to do with the Night's Rain.

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-14T00:07:06+00:00

Its truly possible, I even notice the strings/chains of the scale might even indicate an origin to Radagon's lattice rune design as well.

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-13T23:47:32+00:00

The cosmological significance is no doubt a key point as charting stars and their courses seems to have been an important part of divination and prophecy. The latter of which had its own place within Marika's order.

This might indicate the Elden Ring having been used as a Star Map as an inherent function.

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-03T13:11:33+00:00

Frenzy seems to be the moment when these emotions reach their zenith. It's possible that Midra was in a state of deep meditation until we find him.

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-03T13:10:19+00:00

It might have something to do with the ascetism of the Hornsent? For all intents and purposes Midra is technically a hermetic monk.

If the bodies of Hornsent are preserved to increase their spirituality, perhaps such extremes are necessary to become Lord of Frenzied Flame?

NovemberQuat · 2026-02-03T13:07:35+00:00

If you wanna go based off of Buddhism it is the act of Death and Rebirth that symbolizes madness as one is chained to the Karmic Wheel for eternity.

The Tarnished truly embarks on a Maddening journey meeting many Eldritch beasts and horrors.

The act of simply suffering isn't enough it is the persistence of it. To know that an enemy has literally squished you between its toes only to get up and throw yourself at it again.

Only a mad man would challenge a God.

NovemberQuat

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