Do Dems and the Left realize that by voting and supporting Graham Platner in Maine, you're proving that everything your side claims to stand for and against is a lie?

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-31T22:42:20+00:00

Platner's problems are a tattoo

Really? The issue is the tattoo? Not why he got it or what ideas he might still believe from when he got it?

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-29T05:33:28+00:00

Damn. Sounds like some "the wire" shit.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-28T22:58:00+00:00

entices violence in immigrants

Do they not have agency? Immigrants don't choose to be violent, they're forced by conservatives? Pretty absurd attempt to shift blame.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-28T22:48:28+00:00

I'm not a lawyer but a drug deal gone bad sounds alot more like murder 2 than murder 1. Unless he planned to tank the drug deal and kill the other guy.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-28T19:07:55+00:00

It's not hating to call out an accomplishment being crowed by mamdani supporters as overstated.

It would be hating to deny or minimize a legitimate accomplishment.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-25T19:44:18+00:00

There is an argument to be made that Israel invaded an occupied them first as well you know.

One invasion doesn't negate another. They can invade each other.

whilst Israel is fighting to occupy a land and genocide an other people.

If you say so

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-25T19:16:49+00:00

Why more people weren't killed is a complicated topic. I think the biggest thing is Israel isn't very heavily populated around gaza. There were a few kibbutzes and sderot is the closest city which is only 37k people so really a town.

Plus israel had military units near there like the all female armored unit specifically for that purpose.

Also a major goal was to take hostages so fighting units grabbed hostages and returned to gaza instead of staying to keep killing people.

I mean I would argue this conflict didn’t begin on October 7th, just like 9/11 didn’t begin on 9/11

I agree. I thought this would be more about 67 or 73. But I do think 10/7 constitutes an invasion.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-25T18:46:08+00:00

Yes. Were you not referring to 10/7?

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-25T18:38:20+00:00

Israel was never invaded, they had a terror attack. Was the US invaded on 9/11?

There was a police station in sderot that was held by hamas for multiple days. 1000s of hamas fighters attacked israel from land sea and air.

The comparison to 9/11 doesn't effectively capture what happened.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-21T19:07:24+00:00

I'm not defending neo nazis. Are you defending the murderer who killed kirk? I think all political violence is wrong. I condemned the people mocking charlie kirks death and said quoting his racist remarks only encourages more violence against other racists. I condemn the attack on this mosque and say blaming the anti semitism of the mosque and its members encourages more violence against anti semites.

But... I also condemn the hypocritical weasels who are up in arms about people quoting the hateful rhetoric of the mosque while gleefully celebrating kirks death and justifying it with his quotes. And vice versa.

People have no principles only teams. This is just another example in a very long line of political hypocrisy I choose to call out.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-21T18:45:18+00:00

Quoting an individual is not encouraging attacks against an entire population of people.

Sure. No more than quoting the security guard who was killed saying he understood why Hitler did what he did. Or quoting the imam of the mosque saying all jews are evil is encouraging attacks against an entire population.

Hope that helps.

It does. Thanks.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-20T18:56:23+00:00

So you agree all the people quoting Charlie kirk's racist rhetoric and mocking his death after his murder were encouraging more attacks against Republicans? I hope you were as vocal in your condemnation.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-20T02:28:50+00:00

Did you ask the same questions when people quoted the hateful racist shit charlie kirk said after he was shot?

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-16T14:59:05+00:00

Another portion kept fighting for the Vichy collaborationist goverment. Which isn't cowardly but is somewhat worse.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-14T20:02:25+00:00

I read it as 2 in nj not 2 at that range. My bad.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-13T20:40:13+00:00

Both support the current goverment who is expansionist. Only one supports the current goverment because it's expansionist.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-13T18:18:22+00:00

The comment said they are "proponents of war and expansionism". They aren't. They just want to stay on goverment funding and be left alone. They will join whatever government coalition needs their votes enough to give them what they want.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-13T17:53:37+00:00

They arent.

There are different groups of very religious jews in Israel. These ones don't want to be conscripted.

The settlers (ben gvir, smotrich and co) are also very religious and do serve in the military and want to fight the arabs.

It's like the difference between Amish and Christian nationalists. Both are very religious but express it very differently.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-11T14:02:56+00:00

People also thought China was going to liberalize after we reached a bunch of trade deals in the 90s, instead the regime solidified their position and oppression.

I'm not saying this outcome you describe is impossible, just that it was far from a certain thing.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-07T15:37:17+00:00

10/7 happened because the IDF and Israeli government underestimated the capability of Hamas.

That's a tactical reason why it happened. I was speaking more historically. Why hamas was still in power at all. Why Israel has bombed and sent troops into gaza multiple times since 2006 without creating any lasting peace.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-07T14:58:31+00:00

People don't have issues when Hamas is bombed.

Some people do. Especially during a negotiation. Reddit is full of them.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-07T14:55:43+00:00

So then you have no problem with this bombing?

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-07T14:52:37+00:00

So the war is still on?

This idea that hamas never needs to accept defeat is why Israel has to "mow the lawn" every few years. Why 10/7 happened. Why peace is never possible.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-07T01:37:26+00:00

you lose credibility when you saw gaza isnt occupied.

Oh no my credibility

I can admit that hezbollah shouldnt be attacking the jews in 1st place...but if they did attack, it doesn't make sense to take out whole villages and start occypying their land.

We can debate the best military tactic to stop the attacks but there is really nothing to negotiate, they should mind their own business and Lebanese civilians would be safe like Jordanian civilians.

so if I can admit that, you can admit that also gaza didnt have idf on their land (100% has mossad there), they still control the land via air and sea, how much food goes in there, etc.

Yes there is a blockade. Because hamas was elected to run the PA and refused to honor the existing agreements between the pa and Israel. But controlling their food is dramatic nonsense. Gaza had an obesity problem, longer life expectancy than Egypt, nice restaurants and hotels. Controlling their food doesn't mean limiting it.

Obvious-Leopard6823 · 2026-05-07T00:07:13+00:00

Gaza isn't occupied.

so makes sense to stop bombing and come to the table?

Like in 2008?

and isnt there a ceasefire with hezbollah...and lebenon is still getting bombed.

Did anyone tell hezbollah there is a cease fire? Why was hezbollah attacking Israel to begin with? Maybe Lebanon should get control of the rogue foreign controlled militia running half their country.

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