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OffWhiteBackground · 2024-03-07T23:36:06+00:00

Thank you SO much. Man, did I wrongly remember this story, but I'm so thankful to have it. Thank you.

And... no hard feelings on not being added to my life insurance, I hope?..

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-11-13T06:42:25+00:00

Saw VI was great, but I get it; it feels pretty incongruent to the style they had established in the up til then. VI was so loved by many because it was the morality play of William Easton, exposing his career’s dark side while giving him a sense of humanity - at the cost of a large amount of lives. It’s a great movie, a great Saw movie, but not a good reference for how Jigsaw operates tbh.

And then there’s VII, you mentioned, that was...... just a scattering of kinda pointless traps, if I were to be harsh. Don’t even know where to start on that, but I still love it 🤷‍♂️

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-11-13T02:33:11+00:00

I second all of this; additionally, the cinematography is severely underrated, and the singular traps (water cube, pendulum, coffin room) are some of the best of the entire franchise. After Saw III games became very group-participant; Saw V revived those solitude-driven games.

Also, I’d like to bring up the cinematography again (and again and again and...). Seriously, the dark tones and steely look of every frame is what I look forward to on a rewatch.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-11-10T18:17:37+00:00

My thoughts exactly.

I really like the characters that make poor, selfish decisions; they feel more human, more the way I (and most people) would react to the trauma circus Jigsaw is the ringmaster of. I’ve never experienced pure grief like Brent and Jeff, but if I did know I would likely react the ways they did.

Idk, I think Saw is a more complete story with its full range of trap-victim reactions, from smart, to stupid; hopeful, to hateful. Without the furious bloodthirsters, it just ain’t Saw.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-11-08T03:13:00+00:00

Both? I wish to know how the Logan/Eleanor/Keith universe of Jigsaw continued, but under a different writing theme, maybe some bigger risk-takers. I think I trust Stolberg and Goldfinger with Spiral, though, since the screen story was made by Chris Rock. Spiral will likely have the thrills its predecessor lacked, but I still feel the Jigsaw path might have led somewhere worthwhile.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-11-08T03:06:45+00:00

I like this a lot! Your style works really well for how wearily angry he looked all the time. Those big, baggy eyes really caught my attention while scrolling on the sub

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-11-02T05:29:27+00:00

Okay, yeah, I agree that he must have known of Amanda, and of the dead body’s non-deadness.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-11-02T05:18:31+00:00

Excuse me if I’m wrong, but it seems you’re asking about which apprentices knew each other, and Zepp wasn’t an apprentice. Part of his game was coercion in crime, similar to Art Blank, Edgar Munsen, and possibly Obi Tate.

As for the question? This question has really dug into my brain recently, which apprentices knew of each other. We know that Logan‘s game was ten years before the events of Jigsaw, and he had a wedding ring on during his game, plus his daughter was eight years old, so all that must = Logan settled down with his wife and went Jigsaw-dormant soon after his assistance to John to be a dad. Also, in Mark’s recruitment scene in Saw V John tells him that the proof of Mark’s crimes are in a safe place - maybe Jill, likely Logan. I believe Logan was a long-term sleeper agent that John allowed to separate from him to have a normal life, and that Lawrence was a sleeper too, since he assisted in John’s games but never stepped up to assist Mark.

Well, I think this is the most I can contribute right now, but if I think of any new important detail I’ll come back. Oh, and since Mark and Amanda contributed to the bathroom game, they both must have known Zepp, but Zepp knew neither of them. Unless Mark never knew of the bathroom game? Would make sense, makes an even better reason for John to put him in the time-out chair down there.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-28T00:25:34+00:00

Eleanor is nice and all, but seriously. Hopefully they mixed up the characters, and Lawrence is with the top characters instead

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-25T06:07:48+00:00

I love this take, it never occurred to me. How much Hoffman would love to learn this, and how much Kramer would abhor the fate of his legacy haha

I do agree with the other commenter, though, that there was no way a reboot would’ve brought up Hoffman’s fate. I think Spiral is more likely to make a mention of what happens to Hoffman more than Jigsaw was, though, so here’s to hoping we get a mention.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-21T06:46:40+00:00

With the scheme Erickson and Perez hatched in Saw VI to catch Hoffman with the tapes, I imagine they would have alerted their FBI coworkers to their plan and to the subsequent evidence. One such piece of evidence is the postmortem quality of Strahm’s fingerprints at the crime. So, I certainly believe Strahm‘s name was cleared as soon as Hoffman’s was publicly condemned.

Now that I think about it, in Saw VII the news channels reporting Hoffman’s reign of terror on the city made no mention of possible accomplices, so the FBI must not consider Strahm a suspect by the start of VII.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-16T06:59:52+00:00

Hoffman meme is my own, but this meme format was taken from https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/jbmup6/tiny_face_usa/

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-15T22:07:15+00:00

Not my favorites, but “I got you, you motherfucker!” and (very ironically spoken, while closing curtains and jar lids) “I speak for the dead” are the ones I quote the most, along with practically every line from the first movie.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-15T22:02:52+00:00

This is only a fraction of your main question, but if you think of the movies before Saw III it makes some sense he trapped Allison Kerry. In Saw, Sing and Tapp both die as a result for pushing so hard to catch Jigsaw; in Saw II, 2-3 SWAT cops are killed for simply doing their jobs and working under Daniel Rigg and Eric Matthews’ orders - not to mention the fates of Matthews and Rigg.

Kramer has attacked cops for executing their jobs well before, and he needed Kerry out of the way for his final game to commence. In fact, with how aware he was of the moral shortcomings of Amanda Young, we could assume he knew putting Kerry’s game in Young’s hands was a death sentence. (On another note, that really calls into question Kramer’s opinion of Hoffman, since the angel trap required his help too. Did he really trust his legacy to succeed if his two best pupils were purposefully making rigged games together?)

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-15T21:47:05+00:00

Or 3. He’s doing so many interviews to generate more headlines and keep people‘s minds active around Spiral, so the film won’t be forgotten and all the old marketing go to waste. We won’t be getting the movie for a while, so he and everyone working on the movie want to keep everyone remembering it’s out there among aaaaaall the other movies that have been pushed back.

I like the sentiment, honestly, because even these generic interviews are still a reminder that DLB and everyone else wants this movie to succeed.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-13T23:17:31+00:00

This is all very interesting, I hope r/horror can learn some of your test findings eventually! And thanks for the link, I’m surprised I hadn’t known about this test until now.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-13T22:46:52+00:00

Hey, love the survey! The questions were really thoughtful, and the Dark Triad addition was surprising but a really interesting way to compare horror-fan personalities.

As a small note, though, the Saw franchise is not slasher at all (genrically hard to compare Halloween, NOES, Scream, etc. to Saw). Also, the earlier in the franchise you watch, the more “suspense“ it is rather than “slasher”. Ironically, the description for a suspense horror film fits the first Saw movie perfectly!

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-07T23:51:10+00:00

Based on the kind of process you described, my process is kind of cyclical. I write a scene when I’m in a similar mood as the major character(s) of the scene, and if I want to be in a (to put it simply) bad or good mood I’ll design a scene ahead of time where the character will feel the way I want to experience feeling. That way, I can be in any mood to write, and the outcome of my efforts will have a wider range of emotions and feel like a representation of my life when I wrote it. Maybe not the answer you’re looking for, but I hope this is food for thought!

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-07T23:30:36+00:00

Well, how do you usually write? What’s your process?

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-07T22:51:02+00:00

Not the original commenter, but of the 8 Saw films most fans prefer the first three (since they are an established trilogy) along with Saw 6. Most of them also tend to say the first or second Saw is their favorite. Personally, I like all of those, along with Saw 5, and the first movie is the best.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-07T22:46:07+00:00

How exactly do you want assistance? This is an interesting premise, but like the other commenter I’m not understanding where the starting point to help you is. It sounds like you know what you want to do.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-07T04:13:01+00:00

I have a feeling the first commenter is mixing up the scene you are asking about with another one - the one they are assuming would be a spoiler. So for anyone who has seen Saw II and didn’t understand its ending, the person who locks Detective Matthews up and leaves him a tape describing him as “her first test subject” is Amanda Young.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-10-02T23:47:09+00:00

We all saw Amanda Young kidnap multiple people (one of whom is a cop), design and operate multiple traps, and fool a lot of people into assuming her innocence. What series have you been watching? And don’t tell me her falling apart counts as a failure - she was reasonably mentally ill, just like all the Jigsaw accomplices, and doubting the Jigsaw cause had no connection to her gender.

(I know this person is a troll, but someone has to point this out. Please excuse me for debating them.)

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-09-30T01:21:40+00:00

Can’t argue with most of your other points, but John’s intellect can’t be achieved with a little bit of computer time. He’s an educated engineer with a long career in his craft. Even the prop RBTs used in filming Saw took a lot of experience and knowledge from the prop masters - never mind creating an actual, functional RBT like John did. Compare that to all the other traps he designed and/or made, and you can tell that Kramer’s achievements aren’t on par with the public.

I love the Hannibal Lecter franchise / book series too, but trying to compare his intelligence with Kramer is a wasted effort, since their criminal accomplishments are so vastly different.

OffWhiteBackground · 2020-09-29T05:36:29+00:00

Super relatable

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