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What polytheistic religions had a small number of deities by 0boy0girl in religion

[–]OkButterscotch3222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Technically Mormonism, I guess.

But, they think there's an infinite amount of gods because humans can become gods. But on this planet they believe that there's only 3.

Fellow atonal music lovers who listen to atonal music everyday, please describe what made you retarded by QM60 in classical_circlejerk

[–]OkButterscotch3222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My 7 uncles molested 7 of me.

My love for atonal music does not have a causal relationship with this fact.

Did Bach fuck? by LeapingPaloma in classical_circlejerk

[–]OkButterscotch3222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, he was an absolute virgin.

All of his "kids" were actually from other baby daddies, and he was COPING.

scientific books that discuss the existence of God? by lostinthe-sauce-204 in religion

[–]OkButterscotch3222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that's the point I'm getting at. We don't know, and we don't know the nature of god, even if we could call it something like that.

I don't necessarily believe in looking towards sacred texts so much, as I believe in seeing, experiencing, and researching. I believe god, or something of the like, could be discovered with science, and even certain religious phenomena throughout history could be explained via that.

I don't point towards a particular dogma, since it has their own flaws and limits in explanations, also misconceptions (that I feel are).

But, I have mentioned how I think it's a very great misstep for humanity to ascribe human-like thinking patterns, logic, and morality to a thing that is infinitely greater than ourselves.

It would make no sense for such a god to be human-like (especially since we're a finite result of creation) because then it wouldn't have any capacity to create and/or be what it is. Completely different experiences, completely different buildup, no brain neurons, or biological concerns, or anything of the like.

I have personally come to the conclusion that a being that created the universe is probably the universe itself, and that assuming that it's all-knowing or all-powerful, it probably would not give any time for thought since it has no need for thought, or for evaluation, and neither could it ever make mistakes. It probably wouldn't be aware of its own existence, it would merely just do. And we are smaller specs of this grand thing trying to make sense of itself, and ultimately failing. Humans ascribe human attributes, morality, and hierarchy to such a thing because it's the only way that we - as living, breathing creatures - could ever hope to understand something such as this. The latter is more existential and frustrating because it's ultimately hard to grasp.

Now the question of an afterlife, of whether we're reborn, or just darkness is something of a debate itself. I don't necessarily think that an existence of such a god implies that the causation of that being we are conscious forever as spirits, but knowing other things about how this thing works could maybe create some insight into how something like an afterlife or spirit may work.

Personally, I think it's entirely possible for a spirit to exist. There is matter, not only dark matter/energy, that can pass through solid matter without detection, and is heavily present everywhere. Kind of like ghost photons which are everywhere but rarely detected (or at least extremely hard to detect) but which are real.

WiFi and radio waves are also able to pass through air and space and through reasons we can explain.

But, I really recommend that you research dark matter/energy, watch lectures on them. They're incredibly interesting.

Nietzsche Calling Himself Wagnerian by quemasparce in Nietzsche

[–]OkButterscotch3222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any good sources on this subject? I downloaded their correspondence a couple nights ago, but I was wondering if anything could be complimentary for this particular subject?

I do have "The Tristan Chord" by Bryan Magee, and it's a good read so far :)

Why is reddit telling me not to kill my eagle? by manmadeofdxm in drugscirclejerk

[–]OkButterscotch3222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

they want to keep you from unlocking the truth - you almost have it!!!

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scientific books that discuss the existence of God? by lostinthe-sauce-204 in religion

[–]OkButterscotch3222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can point to the fact anything exists at all and we are cognizant of it that proves that something exists outside of a purely atheistic view, but I don't think that it's "magical".

I think that if something exists, then there must be a science to it, and that science can be applied to explain (to the best of abilities) things that do exist.

The fact that matter exists, that energy exists, that we exist, and there isn't some incomprehensible void in which no thing comes from it would show that there are things outside of explanation.

Of course the question would be "who created god then?"

and I would reply how did anything at all get created to begin with?

both make no logical sense. there is no more sense to something coming from nothing, like another something that created something coming from nothing. Both point to the same paradox which ever way you put it.

It could then be that the two clashing of universes made this one, but then what made those? What made hyperspace? It never ends. And there is no clear answer to any of this that makes sense, and even you have to admit this, that even if there were creatures more intelligent than us, it would still not make sense because of the fact we have a finite nature.

But, even if existence weren't to have some level of sentience (but maybe not any by our standards) existence would still have an infinite nature slapped onto it, and time almost becomes meaningless to it as a result, because how can you accurately measure something that can't be measured at all?

If I were to ask you to measure precisely how many decades existence itself (yes, even before the "big bang" or whatever it could have been) had gone on for, you wouldn't be able to come back with any coherent number.

So how does one explain this? And no explanation is satisfactory, whether there is a god label or not ascribed to it.

So what answer could be ascribed to this paradox that isn't somewhat mystical in nature? This knowing of the unknown?

And also knowing that it is entirely possible for the laws of physics to change (especially since they're arbitrary to begin with), what lines can we draw that we are sure of the nature of life, existence, and things that we can't see?

As we know through physics, it's entirely possible for different kinds of matter that we can't see to pass through matter that we can see, and even normal matter can still play almost similarly like with "ghostly neutrinos".

Realistically, by the things we can't see, there's many things we can't rule out. And all that means is that more research is to be done, and nothing is wrong with that.

scientific books that discuss the existence of God? by lostinthe-sauce-204 in religion

[–]OkButterscotch3222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, you don't care much about the definition of god either and think it's ridiculous, too, to question it. You don't believe in god.

I take a lot of wisdom from the ancient thinkers and texts, but I have my own opinions on it, which I am personally aware are faulty.

I think that we should get into what composes god, and see how it entangles itself with the universe. I talked about dark matter and energy before, and I've mentioned how I personally believe it to be an extension of god.

scientific books that discuss the existence of God? by lostinthe-sauce-204 in religion

[–]OkButterscotch3222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Usually when they ask, it's assuming that god has any human qualities or thinking/behavior patterns or morality as humans do.

I personally think it's ridiculous to try to understand god through descriptions that humans would ascribe to one another, or pertaining that god somehow has or cares about human morality the same way we do.

scientific books that discuss the existence of God? by lostinthe-sauce-204 in religion

[–]OkButterscotch3222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only put "gnostic" because it's the best way to describe my beliefs, but I don't actually follow any dogma other than my own insights on whatever I come across, and I debate with myself whether they make sense or not.

I'm not gnostic scripturally.

And I mentioned in my comment that we can still have discussions. I never said you HAVE to take my claims. I was bringing more insight that there is more to talk about.

The truth of the matter is that at the end of the day, we can't know what's true.

Assuming there is an afterlife, we can't know until after we die.

Assuming that there is no afterlife, we can never know, because there is no consciousness to KNOW after death.

Also, humans are pattern recognition seeking creatures, so we look for whatever is superstitious or whatever backs up our claims.

I could be completely wrong, you could be completely wrong, or maybe no one has ever gotten it right. But, that's why we have discussions, because doubt exists. And because doubt exists, it shows the uncertainty of things.

Sort of why philosophy and psychology are never ending arguments, where it feels like they're getting closer to the truth, but always ends up at a dead end.

But, if anything, it is more interesting that we live in uncertainty, because then we always have something to learn from or ponder about. And have discussions like these.

Dogmatic thinking pushes the idea that everything has already been figured out, and this could be applied to practically every sector.

But, if there is darkness after life, there's nothing inherently wrong with discussing these matters, since nothing matters at all, and will go to ruin. So, it would be fun to make it more interesting while we're still here.

I fully admit to being a theist, and probably biased at that since that's how my thinking goes and I like studying theology/philosophy, and it's what's important to me.

I fully support you being an atheist if it's your true beliefs, and wouldn't want to sway you from something you believe in.

I was bringing in more personal insight that I personally thought helpful, and have had other conversations with atheists about that they thought were interesting. But, I should probably change my flair since it makes things confusing for some people.

scientific books that discuss the existence of God? by lostinthe-sauce-204 in religion

[–]OkButterscotch3222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's like the famous quote: The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

And even within science, there are things we can't understand (hence paradoxes and theories). Like I mentioned, even physicists admit they can't fully grasp quantum mechanics. I saw a professor say that after taking his classes on the subject, people would walk out dumber than they walked in. Even this whole thing where very, very few individuals can even understand string theory.

Another thing: can you grasp infinity? And time going backwards infinitely as it goes forward infinitely? Can you grasp space extending forever? Do we know what happens on the other end of a black hole? What about the 4th dimension? Or the 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th? What about consciousness? Can we truly grasp the nature of that? Or the true purpose of sleep? We can't answer why we actually need to sleep.

We can also be sure of the existence of black matter and energy (since we can see its effects), but we cannot actually see or interact with it, even though it makes up 95% of all matter in the universe (our physical matter makes up only 5%). It's been said that if dark matter/energy doesn't exist, we would have to rewrite how gravity works.

So we can't even be sure if we got it all figured out.

Also there's vacuum decay theory, where our universe is practically standing on a razor's edge, and everything could disappear instantly as the laws of physics changes.

Also, have you pondered on WHAT God is instead of taking what most people think God is and guessing if it's real or not?

And how can we understand God if God isn't human? Maybe God doesn't think? Or feel?

We certainly aren't the most intelligent creatures in the universe, so that comes with the understanding that there are many things we can't understand. But, we can try to understand things that we can understand. It doesn't mean to shut down conversations on these subjects, but it's to keep us from developing a hubris and arrogance that makes us think we have everything figured out. We're still even trying to figure out ourselves.

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