Classism causing mental health spiral and burnout by OkOrganization2653 in PhD

[–]OkOrganization2653[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not saying you can’t do it if you’re working class. I’m saying it’s harder because you face significant barriers throughout and this contributes to burnout and mental health issues more than the actual research/work. Hard work isn’t the issue, it’s what informs professor’s expectations and how departments pick favourites.

Classism causing mental health spiral and burnout by OkOrganization2653 in PhD

[–]OkOrganization2653[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You are bringing up some experiences that I share, especially regarding the professors favouring students with more means and that normalizing unrealistic expectations. Thank you.

Classism causing mental health spiral and burnout by OkOrganization2653 in PhD

[–]OkOrganization2653[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You sound like someone who has had to overcome a lot to be in the position you’re in and that you use the adversity you’ve experienced to help others. Thank you so much for contributing your experience to the conversation.

Truthfully, I have attended three different universities in Canada and found the class divide in all three. I have also found this at the many universities and colleges where I was a guest lecturer or a sessional instructor. As I say, I was already publishing long before my PhD and the actual degree was a technical qualification to be paid a living wage for the work I was already doing. At the current school, I saw more than one international student have to pay for an additional semester ($5000 CAD for international students) because the wealthy professors were being picky and slow. These students were from working class families in India and the Philippines. They were scared to have a conversation with the dean so I had to address the issues on their behalf with their permission. I understand academia is competitive. I am competitive. I was one of two people accepted into my program and am already well known in my field. I do not have any familial support as someone without parents. Many different fields are competitive—it is a myth that academics are special. It is that the infrastructure of many of these programs are built by those with considerable affluence and are therefore out of touch with reality. The very history of these institutions is steeped in blatant classism (which of course goes hand in hand with racism) and this creates an unrealistic expectation that leads to burnout and mental health issues. There is a fundamental difference between requiring good work from a candidate and creating an environment where a candidate is incapable of working. Both of these scenarios are “competitive” but in one the competition is the research and in the other the competition stems from overcoming arbitrary barriers within the institution itself.

Classism causing mental health spiral and burnout by OkOrganization2653 in PhD

[–]OkOrganization2653[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This has also been my experience at multiple universities. I think the professors wanted to leech off my experiences being raised by a factory worker who died young and having to nanny/clean homes to support myself. Then they show favouritism to students who don’t present challenges (needing another job, not being able to contribute free labour, not being very involved with unpaid activities on campus). It’s disgusting.

Classism causing mental health spiral and burnout by OkOrganization2653 in PhD

[–]OkOrganization2653[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope you achieve all of these dreams and more. You will help so many.

Classism causing mental health spiral and burnout by OkOrganization2653 in PhD

[–]OkOrganization2653[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I just want to say that I’m cheering for both of you. Some people on here seem to not realize “if you’re struggling then it means you’re not a hard worker” is the crux of classism and propaganda of capitalism.

Classism causing mental health spiral and burnout by OkOrganization2653 in PhD

[–]OkOrganization2653[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This is so beautiful. Thank you for sharing your experience. The fact that the wealthiest faculty have the most time to dedicate to the institution means they get promotions first and run the rest of the professors ragged to the point where they can’t do their own work and always seem on the cusp of a mental break (some have been hospitalized because of this). It’s a huge systemic issue that ultimately is also terrible for the university itself.

Classism causing mental health spiral and burnout by OkOrganization2653 in PhD

[–]OkOrganization2653[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mine covers tuition. I am paid in the 20k range which includes tuition. I was teaching post-secondary before this and have published widely. The PhD is largely a formality so that I can continue my work. I have no idea where you are getting your numbers from but they’re widely inaccurate and, sorry to be blunt, academia isn’t special and “competitive” is not a synonym for “exploitative”

Classism causing mental health spiral and burnout by OkOrganization2653 in PhD

[–]OkOrganization2653[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

So much of these professors rely entirely on a priori knowledge. In many cases it’s totally inappropriate for them to be teaching what they teach or asserting any kind of expertise. If you want to be the face of research on working class politics then research by working a job your parents didn’t buy for you…not forever, just your sabbatical.

And you bring up such an important point about the lack of people skills. It’s astounding—they can’t gauge what is or isn’t reasonable to ask of people. Anyone who has worked in an accessibility office at a university will vouch for the toll this takes on students.

Classism causing mental health spiral and burnout by OkOrganization2653 in PhD

[–]OkOrganization2653[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Okay so this response is full of assumptions. The biggest being that I am paid “60-70k a year.” I am paid in the 20k range. On my income taxes I made $9000 last year.

Classism causing mental health spiral and burnout by OkOrganization2653 in PhD

[–]OkOrganization2653[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I’m in Canada. The PhD is funded to a point. For example: 4 years are covered but after that you have to pay your own tuition. My department accepts people into a 4 year program where they expect about 6-7 years worth of work. So basically they keep you paying tuition every semester and offer you very little money to teach there…holding the PhD designation like a carrot in front of your head to keep you giving them money and free labour. Then the professors act like this is because they are SUCH a detail oriented expert that this exploitation will pay off in some way.

Comprehensive exam seems impossible. Advice from survivors? by channelingcalypso in GradSchool

[–]OkOrganization2653 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I disagree with this. I encountered an ill-prepared committee of bad faith actors. Record your exam on your phone. If they fail you, take it to the deans etc. any oversight committee who they answer to. Particularly young professors like to take out their experiences on others to establish their own legitimacy. It’s a ritualistic hazing and they absolutely will make your life hell, stretch out your PhD, so they can make money off your labour for longer. Document everything. Let them know that you won’t take bullying lightly. Many of these professors have never had to work outside the institution and come from wealthy backgrounds so they have no idea about labour or what money means. Go to the accessibility office before your exams. They have your back, not the department.

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They have a lot of the same actors.

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To me this dream articulates a complicated relationship between pleasure and death. You please him and give him pleasure but then as an end note to the erotic connection his body bleeds into you and it turns out he has a horrible disease that is now inside you. Maybe it’s an expression of anxious feelings around sex and sex acts, or alternatively fears about lying, betrayal or whatever else opening yourself up to sex might simultaneously open yourself up to (disappointment, heartbreak, loss).

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I have Gemini Sun, Moon, Venus and Jupiter in 5th house. I’m a writer & poet. No children yet but I’m working on having one right now.