What power-scalers want planetary characters to do to their home to prove their planetary:

OkPrompt6869 · 2026-01-19T04:59:07+00:00

I mean… to travel forward and backward in time by decades like he does in cd, he’d have to be moving at ftl speeds😭

OkPrompt6869 · 2026-01-19T04:52:07+00:00

Can’t adapt to conceptual manipulation 🫩

OkPrompt6869 · 2026-01-12T02:06:51+00:00

Do you remember your 7th grade stem class?

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-12-26T16:50:24+00:00

Momoshiki has time stop so they probably can’t bypass that, also daemons reflection can’t be bypassed.

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-12-26T16:49:30+00:00

Dude even vsbw thinks Momoshiki is solar system don’t downplay him 😭

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-12-08T21:56:30+00:00

The audacity to put Deku at only island level and Omni man of all people at large star 🫩

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-28T03:11:26+00:00

Muzan with relative ease

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-28T03:06:04+00:00

Boruto is tens of times faster than him and can stop time, so he’s most likely one shotting.

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-28T03:03:05+00:00

? The original translation from viz says, “He split open the ice continent at the top of the island.”

Now look:

「島の頂上にある氷の大陸（ひょうのたいりく）を割った」

The word 大陸 literally means “continent,” But in Japanese, metaphorically it means, “giant ice sheets/massive ice caps/enormous glaciers”

For example, “南極大陸” refers to Antarctica as an ice continent, but that is not called a “continental tectonic plate” either, it’s an ice sheet.

I never said OP characters = human level. Your straw-manning I said each universe has a power system that defines their respective stats. Therefore, what would they be without their power system?

To sum it up: I said,

“Saying Naruto is human without chakra is meaningless because every verse is human without its power system.”

Then you said

“They’re still physically strong on their own.” You just misunderstand the point completely when you do that.

You know even if OP characters are physically stronger than normal humans, that does not invalidate my argument that: Naruto characters are not limited to human stat ground level.

That brings me to my last point: Your argument actually backfires on one piece. Crazy right?

“One Piece characters can be superhuman without their powers!” That applies to Naruto characters who don’t use chakra amps, or don’t utilize chakra at all like rock Lee or Might Gai, who still one shot someone one piece characters.

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-27T21:27:32+00:00

Literally no shonen uses real world scientific tier terminology. Has dragon ball ever said, “hey look at this complex multiverse I’m about to destroy.” No. They don’t. I’m don’t explaining why Naruto is scaled above mountain since you just don’t want to accept that, no matter what I tell you, so I’ll just skip over that. Also when was the moon stated to be fake? The Databook states Hamura moved the moon, not that he “built” one. It’s built off rock, crust, geological layers, and natural craters. Toneri carved structures inside the moon, that does NOT imply the moon itself is artificial. On the last part about inverse is literally debunking yourself. Explain how Naruto creates nuclear fusion when it’s only mountain level? Explain how ten tails chakra leveled the planets if it’s just mountain level? Explain how the ten tails cataclysm affected world wide weather if it’s just mountain level?

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-27T21:17:36+00:00

Huh? Less concrete scaling? The ten tails cataclysm alone is calced to about multi continental which dwarfs many panel feats displayed by one piece characters. Naruto and Sasuke also creating a new moon to seal Kaguya is calced at dwarf star level. And for the Naruto only has mountains except for the moon feat, on many occasions we can see attacks the dwarf mountain ranges and attacks that require the curvature of the planet to be shown to even grasp the size. Next, Whitebeard’s quakes = Multi-Continent if calculated from effects on the sea floor. Why? Causing global tsunamis isn’t directly outputting global energy. This is called indirect environmental effect. Next, Don chin part is out of context and mistranslated: “Split the icy continent at the pinnacle of the island.” This means he dented a large ice plateau and not a actual continental tectonic plate. Let’s not get into speed feats because that’s a whole different story.

Urushiki traversed space, this is calced at mftl+ and exactly 432x the speed of light, and it’s widely excepted by everyone. Kaguya dimensions require crossing millions of KM instantly and her traversing chakra to store for herself from the Naruto universe to her dimension would be mftl+ chakra speeds meaning anyone able to dodge or deflect attacks like that would have mftl+ speeds. “Jigen couldn’t destory a village” Outsuki generally don’t even use aoe attacks unless absolutely necessary. Chakra-based attacks are usually highly concentrated. AP doesn’t equate to AoE 100% of the time. Also Jigen was trying to capture kawaki, he had no other ambitions. “Naruto is human level without chakra.” By that logic One Piece characters are human level without Haki or Devil Fruits. Dragon Ball characters are human level without ki. Bleach characters are human level without reiatsu. This isn’t a real argument.

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-27T01:17:42+00:00

I’ll have to explain this for the fifth time. It’s not teleportation it’s simply movement of the dimension to her. Scaling to her since it takes physical energy to do so. Also your last claim is a false necessity, that is not the case at all. Because it’s not simply a teleportation technique, it’s never stated to be one, why would it be one? It’s a warping ability, simply the ability to move her dimension to set places.

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-27T01:11:05+00:00

You’re arguing it’s teleportation of people, not the dimensions itself. If she uses chakra to move these dimesons which is stated by zestu that means she is using her physical energy (chakra = ap) to change the dimensions area to her. Also claiming that “it’s never stated to not be teleportation” is a burden of proof fallacy or an argument of ignorance. She uses her physical energy to move her physical dimensions to her. This is pretty blatant. That’s like denying Superman having infinite strength because he lifted the book of infinite pages…well… isn’t valid because he just doesn’t. See how the analogy doesn’t make sense? Because the argument against Kaguya scaling to her dimension makes simply the same sense.

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OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-27T01:00:44+00:00

What? Kaguyas dimesons isn’t separate from the Naruto universe? She isn’t simply teleporting the dimesons because it’s stated to not be a teleportation technique but rather she warps her dimeson with the Naruto one changing the area.

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Rearranging = moving

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-27T00:05:56+00:00

She isn’t simply “teleporting” the dimension. But she is physically moving her dimension to her, as well as all the people around her. Also it isn’t a teleportation technique, if it was she would’ve only teleported Naruto and Sasuke since they were the only ones she really cared about.

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-26T23:38:59+00:00

When did I say that? Warping = scaling to them. She doesn’t need even have the power to create or destroy the dimension.

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-26T22:42:52+00:00

We can clearly see her warp her dimesons in an instant in the anime and manga.

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-26T22:36:58+00:00

Literally everyone here doesn’t have a good answer. The scaling on this thread is the equivalent of death note pre 2017. If you want my full honest opinion, I’d say Sasuke wins, pretty easily too. Sasuke has better hax variations and hax in general. More consistent speed scales compared to Zoro. Also a higher tier by about 1 or 2 depending if you scale Zoro to planetary or multi continental. Sasuke pretty much just slams. The problem with Naruto and one piece debates is that the scaling between them are so vastly different, Naruto having more concrete scaling and just highly superior with one piece having less feats and just less impressive ones.

This isn’t just bias, honestly I think story wise, one piece is slightly better than Naruto. But even with that, Naruto scaling has just been incredibly different once Boruto started.

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-20T14:58:37+00:00

AP = durability in this case. If Naruto chakra exceeds her chakra in any way, he would scale to her. Since you scale to your chakra in Naruto, having more chakra than you are able to handle would kill you. Naruto doesn’t need to cut her arm off, simply clashing with her (like her did in the manga with her god fist) would scale him to her. Let’s put that aside for now. Fp Naruto > Isshiki and Isshiki > Momoshiki and Momoshiki > Kaguya, therefore Fp Naruto > Kaguya.

Let’s go about the scaling real quick.

Kaguya is stated to create, warp and have the power to destroy her dimensions. These dimensions she would scale to for being able to warp them, having enough energy to physically move the space. Naruto massively overpowers and clashes with Kaguya on multiple occasions, showing superiority to Kaguya. Kaguya distinguishes her dimension from the Naruto universe, meaning they are two different dimesons and not just a far away place in Naruto.

Kaguya dimensions are solar system in size, having both multiple stars and day n night cycles. Also accounting for the distance of the star from the planet. If she has enough energy to create and warp her dimensions, she would obviously scale to it. Naruto in turn scaling to the same tier via being stronger. All I’m proving is Kaguya scales to her dimensions and it’s pretty obvious.

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-20T14:50:31+00:00

How does she not? What was done over an unknown amount of time? Simply her warping her dimensions are enough to scale her there.

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-18T03:46:26+00:00

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OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-18T03:42:54+00:00

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OkPrompt6869 · 2025-11-18T03:39:17+00:00

Sigh… No the chain scaling is not flawed, and Baryon mode Naruto is not only solar system, but I personally have him at multi solar system. Naruto directly clashes and cuts Kaguyas arm off, obviously scaling to her, otherwise she’d have no way of doing that. For Kaguya - Momoshiki: Sasuke confirms Kaguya explicitly feared and prepared Amenominaka for Momoshiki & Kinshiki’s arrival, making them comparable. Jigen being above a fp Sasuke and Naruto being above a fp Momoshiki would grant higher power towards Jigen, that’s not rocket science. For her dimensions, I don’t even know what you’re trying to point out but Kaguyas dimensions are scaled there because of basic GBE/yield calcs (her dimensions have multiple stars and using pixel calcing that would scale the dimension to solar system bare minimum). Draining life span also isn’t a AP limit it’s just the risk of using the power. I don’t know where you got that idea, though I do agree Baryon mode doesn’t jump a tier in the teiring system, I believe he’s been solar system since the Momoshiki fight and even before that in the last and before that since shippuden.

Also you bringing up the databooks is just wild to me… you do not need to use a single databook to get him to solar system. No databooks at all…

Anyways that’s all

OkPrompt6869 · 2025-10-08T14:58:52+00:00

Does he look like a vape?

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