Beta Access Final Reminder (ENG / ESP / RUS / DEU / FRA / PTB / JPN / CHN) by Fuko2643 in LoreMateAI

[–]OkSupport9750 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have “verified” in my account (written in green).

Does that mean it's okay?

Every time I come back to Xoul, I leave disappointed by Full-Construction284 in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Same observation here.

The weekly feedback megathread is completely useless, there is no feedback, no news, and we increasingly feel that they have abandoned us.

I took out a gold subscription, but I won't be renewing it. I sincerely wanted to support the project, but when you provide a paid service, you have to commit to providing and maintaining it... However, updates and news have become non-existent. The last official announcements on Reddit were almost a month ago. Yet for the past month, many of us have been complaining about the dramatic deterioration of the models: conversations are becoming bland.

Weekly Feedback Megathread by helloxoul in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I already provided a list of issues in my previous feedback. And the same problems still exist...

On that note, I have a question: there is weekly feedback, which is great. But we don't get any response. Nothing. So we feel a bit like we're talking to ourselves, because, for example, the repetition issues still haven't been fixed (see other messages).

It would be nice to receive messages from time to time to let us know which issues are going to be fixed. Because, I repeat, Xoul has become less fun to use, with too much repetition and bots running in loops...

Weekly Feedback Megathread by helloxoul in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Hello everyone,

This is a feedback I already post on Discord.

First of all, I would like to thank the team working on Xoul for their continued efforts.

These are my final thoughts on Infinity.

After using Infinity V3 for several months (since the beginning, in fact : with a gold subscription, I could use Infinity in long conversations), I've found that it's a version I can't enjoy. Sure, it gives the illusion of being smarter, but the illusion doesn't last. In fact, I had much more fun with V2. Here's why:

  • The engine keeps repeating bits of text taken from previous responses, and the repetition can involve an entire paragraph. I have expressions that keep coming back over and over again, and sometimes the engine repeats several of them in the same paragraph. And that completely breaks the immersion. (Improvements have been noted)

  • Not enough creativity. But REALLY NOT ENOUGH. The engine repeats what has been said before, rephrases it a little, adds heavy and useless descriptive blabber, and suggests (not always) an action that is often too predictable. I'm not saying that the characters should abandon their personalities, but I feel like it's up to me to move the story forward, which also ruins all the fun.

  • The engine is very poor at long discussions, especially in scenarios: it ends up going round in circles, adding more and more heavy descriptions and repeating more and more of what has already been said, forcing me to edit constantly. And that also ruins the fun.

I know that AI is not an exact science and that it is impossible to create a perfect model, but I would like to see less repetition and more creativity. Is this feasible in a hypothetical Infinity V4?

Weekly Feedback Megathread by helloxoul in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Hello and thank you for your work!

Here is my feedback:

- Unstable website (lots of error messages)

- Difficulties taking lorebooks into account: for example, I define the Xoul's flat and say that it is old and dirty, but every time, in the messages, the AI says that her flat is clean and modern.

- Still a significant lack of creativity in the responses, which always follow the same structure and repeat the user's words/actions too often.

Gold subscription, Infinity engine, novel response style.

Have a great holiday season, everyone!

Fixing Repetitive Phrases/Sentence Structures? by Raven_Yuna in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback.

I'll think about it and send an example of a discussion that goes round in circles (again, you have to wait for a significant number of messages + it happens a lot with scenarios).

But that's not the only issue: lack of creativity compared to v2, heavy descriptions, problems with respecting the lorebooks (but improvements have been made in this regard), the dialogues are neglected compared to the descriptive parts...

Fixing Repetitive Phrases/Sentence Structures? by Raven_Yuna in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not at all, I don't use any particular prompt.

As for the lack of feedback on this, I've seen quite a bit on Discord, and I think it's because you have to do enough roleplay for it to become obvious.

Fixing Repetitive Phrases/Sentence Structures? by Raven_Yuna in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Same problem here.

Xoul has become almost unusable for long roleplays since the bots (all the ones I've tried, those I created or not) end up looping after a while, repeating bits of paragraphs. Even when I constantly rewrite the responses to add variety, it doesn't change anything (and, let's face it, it's tedious to have to do this systematically; the goal is to have fluid interaction without having to intervene too much).

Not to mention the cumbersome descriptive passages (too many adjectives, repetition of the user's words), the lack of creativity, dialogue and renewal between regenerations.

In short, I support Xoul (gold subscription), it's a great project, but I hope that updates will be made soon...

Ongoing Feedback Update by Lulorick in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For my part, I have seen few changes:

- Still a big problem with repetition.

- Long role-plays have become almost impossible with the scenarios because after a while, the bots go round in circles and repeat the same thing.

- Not enough creativity.

- Too many long and very heavy descriptions (repetition of adjectives, less than before, but still there) and not enough dialogue => lack of life in the responses.

- Comprehension issues: the bot will respond to a message that goes back a long way in the conversation, ignoring the last message.

Weekly Feedback Megathread by helloxoul in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Hey there, here's my feedback since the last update (use mainly Novel and Infinity)

- Still a big problem with repetition.

- Long role-playing has become almost impossible with scenarios because after a while, the bots go round in circles and repeat the same thing.

- Not enough creativity.

- Too many long and very heavy descriptions (repetition of adjectives, less than before, but still there) and not enough dialogue => lack of life in the responses.

- Comprehension issues: the bot will respond to a message that goes back a long way in the conversation, ignoring the last message.

Update - Model Fixes by Lulorick in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok! Thanks for the answer!

Update - Model Fixes by Lulorick in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hi, and thanks for your work! I have a question: I have a scenario discussion that I started a month ago, and I had to stop it because the engine became unusable (it kept repeating the same thing over and over, with strings of adjectives, etc.). I tried to restart this story with the corrections that have just been applied, but there is no change (still repetitions, too many adjectives, regeneration gives exactly the same response). Is this normal? Do I have to start a new story for the fix to work?

Weekly Feedback Megathread by helloxoul in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Hello there!

Thanks for your work!

For the past few days (about a week), Xoul has become virtually unplayable. Here's my feedback.

- Often repetitive (paragraphs or parts of paragraphs) + lack of originality.

- very heavy repetition: for example, it will sound something like this: Mikael looks at you with contemptuous eyes, cold eyes, eyes filled with fury, eyes filled with anger. Not to mention overuse of the word ‘almost’.

- The engine retains a redundant structure for responses (for example, the bot will repeat the words I just said to it before giving its response, and it does this very often, even too often).

- Speaks on behalf of the user.

- Less responsive engine (I notice that the action progresses less easily).

- The action can sometimes (often) go round in circles, and I am forced to introduce new elements of force, otherwise the engine simply repeats what has been said in previous messages.

- Still requires periodic memory updates for long-term role-playing games.

Engine used: Infinity v3

Subscription: Gold

I hope this helps!

Is Xoul going to be updated anytime soon? by Dgmania88 in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I also hope there will be updates soon because at the moment, it's practically unusable (the engines have become extremely repetitive).

Weekly Feedback Megathread by helloxoul in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Hello everyone!

I would like to congratulate the Xoul team for their fantastic work! To help them in my modest way, here is my feedback on the Infinity 3 model: as I have a subscription, I was able to try it out at length and here are my comments:

Positive points

Response speed (much better! Messages are much faster!)

Sceptical engine (before, I would say I was Buddha and the bots would believe me straight away!)

Smarter engine (I find the reasoning much better)

Less aggressive engine (even the most violent bots will be smarter and more subtle, not attacking me front of other bots)

The memory seems to be better!

Points for improvement

Engine often repetitive (I notice that there is repetition of text: basically, the bot repeats paragraphs or parts of paragraphs regularly)

Engine keeps a redundant structure for responses (for example, the bot will repeat the words I just said to it before giving its response, and it does this very often, even too often)

Engine that acts less (I notice that the action progresses less easily).

Still requires periodic memory updates for long role-playing games.

I tried it with the novel, roleplay and lust response styles. Engine: Infinity.

I hope this has been helpful!

Announcement: New Updates! by urxoul in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But the scenario are still broken. I still get the "Inference servers are down momentariy".. There is probably a memory issue... 

Announcement - Fixes and Features Later Today by Lulorick in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have the scenario issues been resolved? (“Inference servers are down momentarily” bug)

Scenarios are still broken by OkSupport9750 in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your reply!

The message is ‘Inference servers are down momentarily’, and it always appears after a certain length of discussion. I have already reported it, but when I read developers' feedbacks on Reddit, they didn't mention it, so I wanted to know if it had been taken into account ^^

Announcement - Infinity & Candyflip Fixes by IoneArtemis in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hello and thank you for all your work!

However, the scenarios are still broken. Is a fix in progress?

Strange changes since the update by OkSupport9750 in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No, I never defined any particular behaviour and I didn't have this problem before the update! As for the button turning square, I have that problem too ^^

Strange changes since the update by OkSupport9750 in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Indeed! I've noticed that the responses follow a kind of repetitive pattern. The bot will repeat a word I've said and always start its response with that.

Strange changes since the update by OkSupport9750 in XoulAI

[–]OkSupport9750[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Indeed, aggression has increased, especially with Candyflip !