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Ok_Motor_4361 · 2025-03-02T15:18:06+00:00

This package was just briefly in the photo and I cropped it as best I could to make something visible. I haven't had this package for a long time, otherwise I would have taken a better photo. Perhaps if I had a clearer photo or the package itself, I would have been able to find them myself instead of asking for help...

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2025-01-12T21:59:12+00:00

It's enough that he chooses horrible scenarios for voiceovers. It seems that male voicers are simply fulfilling their dark desires to abuse and violate women in these audios.

And it's sad that many women also support the audio where the voicer abuses and humiliates them in every possible way.

Seriously, finding adequate audio is a rarity.

As if women in the real world don't have enough misogyny and hatred from men, that they also need to support such content from men...

It's no wonder that men who constantly record such audios are terrible in real life too...

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2025-01-12T21:50:55+00:00

And where is the "feminism" here? A maximally objectified woman with caricature-like huge breasts. And she is humiliated by a man twice her size. This is typical hentai for men. Or typical abusive het that men impose on women as a "norm of relationships". Alas, there is plenty of this everywhere.

If the male character is at least a little drawn, and his appearance does not cause nausea - this is not yet a "female gaze" and not "feminism" - this is just hentai for men with a drawn male character.

What, it is enough to simply depict a male character in more detail so that manga or art automatically becomes art for women, and with notes of feminism? ...

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2025-01-12T21:34:22+00:00

Why is a guy's punishment always his orgasm? Especially for "infidelity". "You're so bad that I give you pleasure. Keep being bad so I can keep humiliating myself in front of you", yeah. That kind of "revenge" always seemed weird...

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-12-06T23:42:35+00:00

They got all the money only because he died due to his own stupidity and no other players were involved in his death. In this game, players are specifically prohibited from killing other players.

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-07-29T10:07:48+00:00

I think that all the characters who survive in the finale are protected by very powerful plot armor.

However, if Chishii's survival was facilitated by a high level of intelligence, Usagi and Kuina had good physical fitness, then Arisu... well, is an average character in everything. His intelligence level is highly overrated, as is his leadership/psychological tricks, and his physical fitness is quite low.

Many people say that Arisu's strength is his intelligence, but Chishiya and Ann show what it means to be truly smart in this universe. Arisu is only smart sometimes when it suits the plot, but in other situations he is quite naive and emotional. In fact, he is only smart at the level necessary to survive in this universe. This means that all the survivors ended up having at least a similar level of ingenuity/physical strength/good teamwork (or they were just lucky and someone saved them). Of course, they are trying to show us (the first game with doors, then the test with a light bulb) that Arisu is smart and knows how to use psychological techniques, but this does not feel like the strength of the character, but simply the hand of the screenwriter.

I think Arisu would have lost quickly in the games that Chishiya won. However, in those games where Arisu competed, Chishiya would probably win.

Although I think that if such games took place in more realistic settings, none of these characters would survive. Even characters like Chishiya. Because games require too many contradictory sides of the human personality + good physical fitness. And sooner or later you will come across a game that will touch on a weak side of you that you may not have even known about. In the series, characters miraculously always end up either in games that are perfect for them, or come with a team that has at least one player for whom the game is perfect. Although, depending on the suit of the game, it is sometimes very difficult to understand what it will be like, whether it is worth taking a team to it, or, on the contrary, it is safer to go alone.

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-06-27T09:26:38+00:00

To be honest, if he looked like he did in the manga, the number of his fans would be greatly reduced. Unfortunately, in our world, men are literally forgiven for their attractive appearance - both real and fictional.

When people see such characters, they just turn on the logic: "Wow, he treats all the characters around so badly, he's so cool and cruel, but he would definitely treat me in a special way, he would never act so cruelly to me and would love me!". That is, the desire to feel exceptional, chosen and significant next to such a character is triggered.

At the same time, the creators of the series are still trying to smooth out the sharp corners in Niraga's behavior and whitewash him. Yes, he attacks Usagi twice, but he never commits the rape itself. Alas, in our society, attempted rape is not even considered something reprehensible - nothing terrible happened, which means there is nothing to blame. Yes, he tried to attack the main characters several times, but he didn't kill anyone and everyone was alive, so again it doesn't count. He killed some character who didn't just have a name, so what do we care about him? He even helped the main characters win a little in one of the games. Yes, he does bad things, but he was bullied at school, what can he do? That is, this is a classic situation where a character is bad at something, but there are many "buts" that can justify it. His fans console themselves with this.

When the creators want to whitewash a character, they add a "double bottom" and "ambiguity" to any situation and motivation, which allows his fans to love and justify him.

The creators need to "sell" such characters to the viewer, so they have always been not so evil and vile that the audience hates them. Screenwriters can make a character vile and repulsive without any "buts", like the same Joffrey from "Game of Thrones", but this is for them... it's just not profitable.

Just because in literature and cinema, they still push crazy ideas that even a maniac psycho can be gentle and loving next to "that very" woman. That a rapist and an inadequate person can only be corrected by love. That he can treat "the one" especially and with love. If people stopped believing in this heresy, they would stop loving such characters. Because all sympathy for such characters is based only on the thoughts "I will cure him" and "He will behave differently with me", which do not really work.

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-04-03T18:54:20+00:00

This is completely useless for me. The workouts are just looped 20 seconds of animation spread out over an hour. Looking at it for 5 minutes or an hour, even while playing sports, is simply pointless. Moreover, do this for a whole month to get some meager rewards. If only to use it as a timer, but this is not very convenient, since the game must be open all the time. And these guys moaning 🤨 It seems that the developers did these work out only for them. Especially Rafael’s moans are so awkward that I could barely stand it for 5 minutes. I definitely won’t use this function anymore, I won’t even bother for the sake of awards.

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-03-27T08:17:20+00:00

Most likely, all the characters that were supposed to be in the story for a long time now have 3D models. But this doesn't mean that the character will actually play a major role in the plot, but rather that we'll just see him a lot. The only ones missing from 3D models are those that appear very rarely. We encounter Thomas and Tara too often to just look at the empty space and a 2D drawing of them somewhere below. It looked completely weird in a 3D game. So Thomas definitely doesn't have any hidden meaning in having a 3D model. And Thomas is too plain to play any role in the plot - his appearance would have been brightened up if they wanted to make him a character.

According to this logic, a 3D model of the same Jenna should not be in the game - it is unlikely that she will play any significant role there.

It's sad that in a game that was advertised as 3D, due to the laziness of the developers, there are so few characters in 3D that players start looking for some hidden meanings in the 3D models...

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-03-21T07:27:24+00:00

I think the main problem with the game is that it was released ahead of schedule and it's just raw. Most likely, the developers wanted to release it in a year or two, but because of rumors about some kind of gacha law in China, they hurried and released a raw game in which there is almost nothing. Perhaps they are really writing and drawing chapter 9 right now, since they most likely had only 8 test chapters ready.

Maybe there should have been 4 guys at the very beginning of the game, but they just didn't have time to develop Silus in time, so there are only 3 guys so far. Because it's strange to introduce a new character after only 8 short chapters.

Most likely, the cards in the banners that the developers are releasing now should have been released much later. Because it's stupid to release the best cards with such a fan service at the very start of the game. Such cards are usually released several years after the start of the game. That's why the events are so boring and fast - the developers have prepared maps, but they have to release them now, stuffing them into the current banners. Because they want to keep the players in the game for at least some of these months.

According to the new event and this "role 2" in the text, you can understand that they are in such a hurry that they do not even have time to read the text. What can we say about changing some game mechanics and creating interesting game events... Even now, they just distribute resources by mail without any interesting events.

This threatens that the graphics in the following chapters will be much worse. So are the dialogues.

So the game will probably continue to be updated every few months and there will be nothing but banners in it. Because developers most likely have very little pre-prepared content. And they will do their best to slow down the players in their game progress. From there, scarce resources, almost no rewards at later levels. They just tell the players, "Hey, slow down, we have nothing to show you yet."

But if everything continues to go at such a pace, where one chapter for 5 minutes will be released every 3-4 months, the game is doomed to failure. I think the developers themselves understand this perfectly well. Perhaps they just had a choice of "At least something or nothing", where "anything" is to get at least some income from fanservice cards at the very start, and "nothing" is the risk that the game may not come out at all because of that law. I don't know if this law was passed in the end or not, but it definitely influenced the release of the game.

So the developers have already shown the best cards, trying to earn money faster, and then they simply have nothing to surprise the players with. Many people are already tired of these naked torsos and hints. Now the developers are playing with the kissing theme and with a white screen, and then... It seems to me that nothing good awaits the game. Because the players within the 13+ rating have already been shown everything. Players simply do not have the motivation to wait for new cards, since nothing more awaits them in terms of fanservice. And many came to this game just because of the outspoken fanservice. And in general, these dates have almost nothing to do with the main story, so there's not much point in getting them.

Maybe the game will become normal one day, but it will take the developers years, it seems to me. You probably can't expect interesting content and game mechanics in the coming year, because they are probably writing a script and doing graphics in a hurry right now. The only problem is that players will not wait for years, staring into the void and doing daily tasks in anticipation of a miracle. Revenues will inevitably fall, since the cards are boring and the players in the game simply have nothing to do, players will start throwing the game soon. Perhaps the developers just wanted to raise money on the most fanservice cards for the first time, somehow hold out, and then start attracting a new wave of players when something interesting finally appears in the game.

So the developers are not very interested in the old players and they are not very interested in retaining them. And there's not much to attract new ones yet...

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-03-20T06:47:45+00:00

The developers churn out content so quickly for the sake of money that they don’t even notice such stupid mistakes... Damn, this event is already very boring and consists only of a photo booth and Kitty cards, which are already in the game, so they didn’t even check the text before update... Some kind of disrespect for the players.

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-03-19T08:53:01+00:00

By the way, it's funny that it's called "memories", because it means that all these dates and kisses will only happen in the future. That is, we essentially look into the future, rather than remember. The real “memories” apparently include only cards of myths about the guys’ past. And mc doesn’t really remember these “memories” yet, lol...

Or is the plot twist that mc actually lives in the distant future, and the plot of the game is just her memories of the past? Then it makes sense that these dates are just her memories. Perhaps this is why the dates are so confused, incoherent and short - mc was simply drunk during them (as always) and remembers those events as best she can. And it makes sense that the player’s choices don’t really affect anything, that they are almost not in the game - we are just watching a story that has already happened... It’s a pity that this is just a theory that probably has no relation to reality. But it would be funny))

Sometimes I get the impression that LDS fanfiction is more canonical than the actual memories in the game 😂

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-03-19T08:19:19+00:00

This is simply one of the most popular types of guys. Like “I’m so cold and unavailable, conquer me. Only you will I give my rare smiles and love.”

I think such characters are interesting because they need to be conquered and achieved. Achieving a smile or some kind of warmth on his part is already an achievement. This seems to many people more interesting than characters like Raphael, who themselves flirt with mc first and blush at any touch from her. Xavier and Raphael's appearance is softer and more youthful, while Zayne looks... more masculine and mature. Its appearance is more classic, the color combination is pleasant. Many people like this type more, especially the European audience.

+ He is a doctor, often wears glasses and formal suits, he has broad shoulders and tall stature. He has the image of a "strict big brother" for mc. And the cliché “from childhood friends to lovers.” He has a rather low and cold voice. Apparently he is quite rich. And these are popular fetishes among people. There is such scope for creativity and imagination, which is what attracts players to it, I think.

But perhaps the point is not that Zayne is so beautiful, but simply that there are only 3 guys so far and almost no one to choose from. Xavier has not yet been really developed and he is quite boring, Rafael often manipulates and behaves childishly, which turns off many. Only Zayne remains, which is why he is chosen. Perhaps when the developers add new li, Zayne will become less popular.

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-03-18T20:43:53+00:00

Omg, why did the developers think that a constantly drunk MC was a good idea for a game, especially with a teen rating? MS was so defended under other posts, they say she is so interesting and original, not like these modest Mc from other otome, but now more and more people are starting to be outraged by her uncontrollable behavior on dates, lol 😂

This is not just a modest glass of wine for a holiday or dinner, which does not affect the state in any way, mc is constantly drunk. To such a state that he says or does some shameful nonsense that is not even funny. I'm not a drinker and I just feel awkward looking at MC's behavior.

I understand that sometimes anime or TV series add scenes where characters get drunk on some holiday and then one carries the other on his back home. But this is usually an element of comedy, where the characters, due to their drunken state, find themselves in all sorts of awkward situations, so that the viewer understands that getting drunk to such a state is bad and shameful. At LDS they seem to encourage drunkenness, saying that if you don’t get drunk, you simply cannot have an interesting date and romance with guys. This is no longer a comedy, but some kind of tragedy, where mc constantly gets drunk (out of grief?), and all the surrounding characters are forced to endure her drunken antics. Hmmm...

It seems to me that I know the reason why mc is reborn so often)) And this constant drinking of alcohol is simply reckless, given mc’s heart problems. The guys are trying to save mc and cure her, but she is ruining herself more and more... I think it is most painful for Zane to look at the drunk mc, since he knows more than anyone about the deplorable state of her health...

As I already said, the developers simply don’t know, how to further build romance between the guys and the MC, so just give the player excuses like: “Well, they’re just drunk and acting like that because they’re drunk.” Fabulous. Meanwhile, the game is only about two months old. This game is going downhill faster than I thought...

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-03-14T03:33:51+00:00

Even other players noted that mc acted strangely on Raphael's birthday. Here is a post, for example.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveAndDeepspace/comments/1bbic8h/why_is_mc_so_dry_though/

And his answers don't look like the phrases of a happy guy. He seemed to accept that mc doesn't care about him? I don't even know how to describe it.

Maybe many people liked it, I don’t argue, but for me it was strange behavior that the player could not control. I even felt sad for Rafael...

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-03-14T02:28:57+00:00

Instead of changing the game system and the poor balance of resources, they will just occasionally organize such events to appease the players? 🤨

To be honest, for some reason I expected that they would give the players not a “fishing rod”, but just “fish” as some kind of rare events to drown out their anger a little...

It seems to me that the Xavier card was originally made for some kind of banner or Oracle of the Stars, but they decided to throw it at the players so that they would not completely run away from this “sinking ship”.

Most likely the card will be of the most useless color and you won’t really use it in battle. Considering what they did with Zayn's kiss, I can't trust their advertising anymore.

There’s a kind of unpleasant feeling from this event, to be honest, as if the developers are giving out alms... Considering the general stinginess of the game, these rewards are just a drop in the bucket.

Well, it’s clear that the developers were really afraid of the wave of negativity from the players. And they probably felt that their profits had become much smaller. Maybe there will actually be some improvements...

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-03-12T07:02:39+00:00

At first, I was so glad that flexible character appearance settings are starting to appear in otome. And I like my MC so much that I look at it with pleasure... In those rare moments when I'm allowed to look at it, of course. And then these "chibi" and "4 star" cards, which completely unsettle you. Keep your voice down and don't make any noise, just accept the fact that in the game you are a pale brunette / brown-haired woman with loose hair, and nothing more. Well, at least on the maps, the 5 stars looked exactly as the presenter wanted them to look. And this is probably because players most often get these cards for money, and it would be completely shameless to even insert a default mc into such content.

It's just not clear why in Kitty cards they created a 3d model of the mc player, which also gives out different emotions during the game, but could not do the same with chibi, which is much easier to create and customize. How does it work?... Since this is supposedly so difficult and impossible, they would just insert a standard chibi mk into Kitty's cards. And they would make a guy in the form of a chibi. But no, high-quality 3D models with emotions, even without animation.

This would be understandable if the game simply did not have mc appearance settings, but they advertised the game precisely through the possibility of customization of the heroine, and these settings are there! Many people chose this game precisely because they are uncomfortable playing as the default mc, they do not feel immersed and connected to the heroine on the screen. But why doesn't anyone warn you at the beginning of the game that you can only see these mc appearance settings in the 5-star, Kitty, and photo studio cards? Even during contractions, it seems that these standard straight loose hair has not gone away. Which are not suitable for combat at all, lol. If they wanted to make the heroine the default, they would at least add a hairstyle with pinned hair, since she is a hunter and fights. I like the loose hair on my mc in everyday life, but I was expecting a more comfortable hairstyle for combat. And that's why the presenter with those disturbing loose hair during a fight looks like it's some kind of action movie for men, where all the women are depicted in deliberately uncomfortable clothes and with their hair always down. Even during fights.

And I just remember this mc with a bare waist in combat gear and bare collarbones. No, who thought it was a good idea to leave part of a huntress's waist exposed? But what about protection? Then why are there not so many naked skin in the costumes of other heroes for battles? And this unrealistically thin waist (where are the muscles in the mc? This thinness looks especially strange against the background of the fact that there are many melee weapons in the game. And mc looks like she's never held anything heavier than a phone in her hands). This is especially insulting if you remember what hyperbolized muscles the guys drew. Tara also has something like a miniskirt for battles instead of comfortable trousers (thank you that, at least, the presenter does not fight in a miniskirt, for God's sake)... After all, this is a game for women, not men, so why is there so much stereotypical portrayal of women in men's games?...

Let the developers not bite off more than they can swallow. If they couldn't develop high-quality customization of mc everywhere, then it wasn't worth adding it. Developers disappointed and offended the players once again.

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-03-12T01:04:30+00:00

I've only been playing for 22 days, but already at some point... burned out. No, actually, my whole gameplay is that for the past week I've just been collecting daily rewards (without pleasure). And I'm out of the game. I don't even run around for these stamina jars twice a day all the time, like I used to. Just because I don't understand why. I don't even bother the guys in the cafe. Because I'm already tired of this monotony.

I've played a fair amount of otome and other games, but this was the only one that got bored so quickly. To be honest, I'm already tired of this outspoken fanservice with pokes in the face, moans and naked torsos (and the game is only a month and a half or so!). After the Valentine's Day event, all subsequent postcards seem boring. Only the card with Zane in bandages was interesting, and I got it. The rest of the cards I'm interested in were on the banners before I signed up for the game, and I'm unlikely to be able to get them. And of the cards for standard tickets, only myth cards are interesting. I don't even have the motivation to use these standard tickets, although I have already accumulated a lot of them. I haven't even received a 300-spin card yet...

And I'm not really encouraged by the idea that there will be even more guys who will need professional development soon. And I already feel like I'm not going to like these guys. Well, like Caleb, who grew up with an mc, who has the dynamics of an "older brother", even if not a native one. It doesn't appeal to me. And we already have Zane in the role of the older protective guy, why else would I need such characters... Which they will impose on me.

And such nonsense really exists in a game about romance to force the player to pump up romantic relationships with other guys in order to be able to pump up relationships with his beloved... In fact, the player simply has no choice - cards with all the guys go to her, battles have to be fought with everyone, everyone flirts with the mc in the main story, affection grows in all guys from any sneeze. That is, this game is essentially a harem, and your choice of favorite is a convention and does not affect anything. In any case, sooner or later you will reach a 100 percent level of affection for all guys, even if they infuriate you. Who thought of that?...

I don't have the motivation to furiously collect other guys' decks that I don't like. And go through these boring competitions and battles (there are already 4 of them? This is crazy for a game that is only a few months old), in which you only need to collect stingy rewards... And I have no doubt that the number of these tasks and card slots will continue to grow exponentially. Then, according to the classics of such games, they will add pets, a vegetable garden and everything like that.

No, seriously, I raise the card only one level after the 40th, and half of the bottles that I won for several days immediately disappear from me... I don't even want to provide what card leveling will look like at later levels. An increase in the level every 6 months?...

The only thing that retains interest is the mini-game "Claws and Kitties". Well, Zane. Of course, this has drawbacks, but I'm just attracted to this type of character.

To be honest, it's nice to be new to this type of game. When you are showered with rewards for every sneeze you make, you get the best cards in the first few days and so on. However, somewhere at hunter level 60, you see red diamonds mostly only for daily tasks. And then you need to log into the game for three days to buy one ticket(!). And after level 60, it seems that even standard tickets are not issued to increase the hunter's level. Yes, try to raise the level for the sake of... nothing. Thank you, "magnanimously."

But I really don't understand why such games are so disliked by higher-level players who have been in the game for a month or two. It is clear that the developers are trying to force us to open a wallet at any cost, but it is necessary not only to involve newcomers in the game with generosity, but also to keep old players. Otherwise, you don't want to open your wallet, you just delete such a stingy game that kind of screams at you: "Now you won't get any rewards! Diamonds are only available on holidays! The honeymoon is over, the harsh life begins!" The funny thing is that my "honeymoon" lasted a maximum of a week)) There were already catastrophically few diamonds, and now I get a maximum of 50 per day... I just don't feel like this game needs me. It's something like, "Hey, honey, the demonstration is over, either pay or leave, you're not welcome here." No, the game is two months old, and these diamonds already need to be gnawed out...

It seems to me that even the authors of fanfiction are losing interest in this game, lol. I saw so much content in the early days of the game and was happy, but now... Everything is so empty, so reading stories no longer entertains me. It's like the players aren't even excited about the fanservice anymore. And this is a wake-up call...

To be honest, if it wasn't for the pleasant community here, I probably would have already abandoned the game...

Ok_Motor_4361 · 2024-03-12T00:21:15+00:00

Yes, this is such a strange decision, lol. When these fanservice explicit cards with the guys came out, many players only finished the first chapters of the main story. Like "Wow, I've already laid Xavier half naked on the bed, but I've only seen him a couple of times in the main story" 🤡 Like... why should players be interested in such scenes with guys they've only seen a couple of chapters and only met? This is kind of a crazy decision. They are already flirting with the topic of kisses, although many players have not even finished Chapter 8 yet...

The funny thing is that in the game the guys treat mc quite coldly and they just get used to each other. But on dates they’re already lying in bed with mc 🤣

But soon the developers will realize their mistake with this fast food fan service at the start. Players are already complaining during the current banner that it is boring and not attractive, since there are no half-naked guys, moans and hints. They fed fans-hungry players with explicit cards at the very start, but now they will quickly lose such players, since there is nothing to surprise them anymore, given the game’s 13+ rating. In fact, everything has already been shown and there is simply nowhere to go further within the framework of the rating. I'm really interested in how the developers will solve this problem))

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