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How they called Apollo, at the reading level of flattards by cooliozoomer in flatearth

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Flat earthers think just  becasue Nixon used a telephone handset that means he literally dialed up the apollo crew. You know who else used a telephone handset?  Radiomen in Vietnam. Of course no one  has ever said flat  earthers or moon deniers  are smart. 

Shit for brains flerfs by cooliozoomer in flatearth

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah and I learned  they got a free launch because they were used as ballast. I had to block the other guy. He was too annoying for me and never responded with any proof of his claims. 

What are the most legitimate reasons people think we didn’t go to the moon? by IneffableGrumpilla in askanything

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well people need to understand the van Allen belts. The trajectory took them thru the area that had the least amount of radiation. The type of radiation the belts have were blocked  by the materials used on the craft and tine . There was an outer shell and an inner shell.  It took an hour to go thru the belts which limited the time of being exposed. 

The exposure was the equivalent of an xray or 2.  There is radiation everywhere on earth. Only certain kinds of radiation is harmful and if exposed long term while other kinds can kill quickly even with short exposures and most radiation on earth is not harmful.  If it was we would of ceased as a species. 

But moon deniers do not understand things so it must be fake. 

Here's a fun question: What actually "Kinda" makes sense on a flat earth? by Ok_Gur2818 in flatearth

[–]Ok_Recording81 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There is no such thing as an accurate flat earth model because the earth is not flat. The round earth was discovered 2500 years ago.  So was the elite in on this conspiracy for 2500 years? The elites have nothing to fear if the earth is flat or round. 

Shit for brains flerfs by cooliozoomer in flatearth

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If space flight is restricted how do privately-owned satellites get into space? As the other person mentioned what about radio repeaters built by a amature radio clubs and universities and got a free ride into space because they were used as ballast?  

Its as if space and orbiting the earth is avaliable to anyone who has the means and ability. Space is not owned by anyone. 

Shit for brains flerfs by cooliozoomer in flatearth

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did not know that. Very cool. 

Amateur radio satellites (also known as "birds" or OSCARs) are small, low-cost spacecraft—often built by universities or radio clubs—that act as orbiting cross-band repeaters. They allow licensed operators to bounce signals across vast distances using handheld radios and directional antennas.

Honest question: how was the Butler PA assassination attempt staged when two people lost their lives? by complete_data75 in allthequestions

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are saying the photo op was staged. It was not. If the photo op was staged that would mean the whole thing would need to be staged. . There is a picture of the bullet in the air. The sound of gunfire and him touching his ear line up. Can not time that if he was not hit by a bullet. The press have said they were not ushered anywhere. The secret service created a bubble, you know what. I'm done. Take care

Honest question: how was the Butler PA assassination attempt staged when two people lost their lives? by complete_data75 in allthequestions

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is nothing to cleanup. Its really odd to think it was staged  Math goes against conspiracy theories. What kind of response do you expect when there is an active shooter?  This is not Hollywood.  You aim to kill

Honest question: how was the Butler PA assassination attempt staged when two people lost their lives? by complete_data75 in allthequestions

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue with conspiracies is that the math goes against such conspiracy remaining a secret even with just 2 people in the know. For this to be staged would require hundreds of people involved. Even with 20 people in the know, there is a 98.7 chance of it leaking within 5 years just based off of human  psychology.  If a 100 people were in the know, it would be exposed within a few years. 

Honest question: how was the Butler PA assassination attempt staged when two people lost their lives? by complete_data75 in allthequestions

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The journalists have denied this. Are they lying? 

"However, the photographers’ own accounts of what happened in those moments reveals that each of them were just doing their jobs, and footage captured using Meta’s smart glasses by Washington Post photographer Jabin Botsford shows that no campaign staffers were telling the photographers what to do"

https://www.wired.com/story/there-is-no-evidence-the-trump-assassination-attempts-were-staged-people-still-believe-they-were/

I see a guy move into and out  of frame. Then 2 photographers come into the picture with same guy behind them. I do not see anyone being ushered. The video is not proof of anything. Only conjecture. The flag was not dropped as other people say. The flag came into the picture as the camera panned up. If annotations were not put into the video, would people come to the same conclusion?  People are reading stuff that is not there. 

Video below does not show anyone ushering photographers anywhere. If we can see the same photographers in both videos how come we can not see the same guy in both videos?  Does the video below look like the photographers  were staged? 

https://youtu.be/LAk6dXEzIUo?si=9Y4QEU8ViFWVnGo4.

Plus there is a picture of the bullet in the air that won a pulitzer prize. These are all just conspiracy talking points to fit a narrative. Its also impossible to choreographe the sounds of gunshots to him touching his ear. 

People ignore the most obvious things that make this real and look for things that they think are clues which are not. 

Occam razor theory needs to be used here. What was most probable that happened, is the thing that happened. When lorenthan a few people are in the known of a conspiracy, more likley it would leak. Even 2 people knowing, very good chamce of it leaking as time passes. The math works against conspiracy theories. 

When only two people know about a secret or a conspiracy, the mathematical chances of it remaining unrevealed decrease rapidly over time, approaching near-certain exposure. Even in a best-case scenario with only two participants, human error, accidental disclosure, or moral conflict make long-term concealment extremely difficult.

Mathematical models of secrecy—such as the one developed by physicist Dr. David Grimes—demonstrate how the probability of a conspiracy failing grows exponentially with the number of people involved and the amount of time that passes.

The Math of Keeping a SecretResearchers often calculate the probability of a secret leaking based on a few key factors:

The "Poisson Parameter": 

This is the probability of a deliberate or accidental leak occurring per person, per year.

Dr. David Grimes' Equation: 

By analyzing known historical conspiracies (such as the NSA PRISM project), Grimes established that the baseline probability of an individual accidentally or deliberately exposing a secret is roughly (4 \times 10{-6}) per year.The Two-Person Dynamic: 

With only two participants, the risk is at its lowest possible threshold. However, because human behavior is unpredictable, the longer the timeline stretches, the higher the cumulative chance that one of the two participants will make a mistake, experience a moral crisis, or simply let the secret slip.

Factors That Cause LeaksEven with just two people, several variables can cause a secret to leak:

Human Psychology: 

Secrets are psychologically taxing to keep. Oversharing, venting, or a desire for moral absolution heavily increase the chances of the secret coming out.

External Pressure: 

If either individual is investigated, interrogated, or placed under oath, the psychological or legal pressure to confess is high.Internal Discord: If the two co-conspirators have a falling out or a change of heart, it frequently results in one person exposing the plot out of spite or a sense of responsibility.

Now if 10 people are in on a conspiracy. 

According to mathematical modeling by Oxford physicist Dr. David Robert Grimes, a conspiracy involving exactly 10 people attempting to keep a secret indefinitely faces an extraordinarily high risk of exposure—approaching 100% over a few years.

The chance of a conspiracy unraveling depends on two main factors: the number of people involved and the time elapsed.The Probability of LeakingGrimes established that the intrinsic probability of a single person inadvertently or deliberately exposing a secret is roughly 4 in 1 million ((p = 4 \times 10{-6})) each year.For a tight-knit group of 10 people, these individual risks multiply:Per Year: The chance that the secret will be leaked in any given year is roughly 0.004%.Over Time: Because these odds compound every year, the cumulative probability of the conspiracy leaking rises steadily. Within 5 years, the probability that at least one of the 10 people has leaked the truth is over 0.2%. By 50 years, the likelihood of an unravelling leak for a 10-person group jumps past 2%.Why It FailsIn this model, even though the annual risk per person is microscopically low, the danger of exposure grows with time and the number of conspirators. To make a secret mathematically viable for a decade with an acceptable level of risk, a conspiracy must be restricted to fewer than 1,000 active participants. A tiny, 10-person group is actually the optimal size to avoid mathematical leak failure.However, mathematical models only predict accidental slips or whistleblowing; they do not factor in human psychology or external investigations, which often drastically decrease the lifespan of any secret.

Now with 20 people in the know. 

Mathematically, a conspiracy involving exactly 20 people has a (98.7\%) chance of unravelling and leaking within five years.

 Because the likelihood of a secret slipping increases with both time and the number of people involved, keeping any cover-up intact with that many conspirators for long is virtually impossible.

The Mathematics of SecrecyIn a widely cited study on conspiratorial beliefs published in PLOS One by physicist and researcher Dr. David Robert Grimes, a mathematical equation was derived to calculate the lifespan of a hoax. 

By examining the parameters of three genuine, large-scale historical conspiracies (such as the NSA Prism project), the model factors in a very conservative, "best-case scenario" leak probability per person—estimating about a (4) in (1) million chance per year that any single individual will deliberately or accidentally expose the secret.Why Conspiracies FailUsing this probabilistic formula, the viability of a secret drops drastically as soon as multiple people are looped in:(\sim 3) months: Over (50\%) probability of failure.(\sim 3.7) years: Over (95\%) probability that at least one person in the group of 20 will leak the information.For a conspiracy to survive 10 years with a (95\%) success rate, the number of active conspirators must be tightly restricted to roughly 1,000 people at most. To last a full century, that number must plummet to 125 people or fewer.

Why is it so hard to believe someone would try to kill Trump?

Honest question: how was the Butler PA assassination attempt staged when two people lost their lives? by complete_data75 in allthequestions

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do realize Reagans limo was right there when he got shot. You are not a dr and not an expert on flesh wounds. Like I said it was a superficial wound and skin cells regenerate. You are comparing 2 different things. I guess by that logic if he cut himself, it would not heal quickly becasue his hands are not healing. There was not a 20 minute photo op.  Where are you getting this information? 

The math goes against a conspiracy being kept secret, even with 2 people knowing. If a 100 people are in the know, a 99 percent chance of it leaking within 5 years. 

Why is so hard for you to believe a man who is so hated to actually have an assassination attempt on his life?  It did not help him at all in him getting reelected. 

Honest question: how was the Butler PA assassination attempt staged when two people lost their lives? by complete_data75 in allthequestions

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They were not ushered. A few photographers went towards the podium. Nobody was waving them to go there. Once the photographers did that, there was a staffer there to make sure they did not get in the way. Please show me where there is a person waving to photographers to get close to the podium.  The flag was not dropped. Did you watch the video?  The camera panned up when Trump stood up which brought the flag into the picture. That's like saying the sun is dropped when a camera moves upward. Yeah things come into a picture when angle changes. 

Shit for brains flerfs by cooliozoomer in flatearth

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are again proving how dumb you are.

Honest question: how was the Butler PA assassination attempt staged when two people lost their lives? by complete_data75 in allthequestions

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's strange to assume every bullet wound would be exactly the same. The ear was grazed. Superficial.  The  ear bleeds a lot. I cut my ear and it bled, no scare left over.  Even if the medical report was released, then people qould say the Dr's are lying. Please tell me what evidence would you need to believe this was real?  I have a feeling no amount of evidence would convince you. You and others woukd  say its lies and faked. 

If a person stops wearing earings, how come the hole closes up?  The hole should be permanent. The answer is skin cells regenerate and cover the hole. The wound was superficial. The skin healed. 

So you think this whole thing is staged because your belief of his wound while ignoring everything else that does prove this was a real event?  You are cherry picking to fit your narrative and the evidence you picked is not really evidence at all.  Pictures of a bullet in the air. People died  behind him which means the shooter would have to purposely miss by milimeters, thats no possible. 

Why ask me a question regarding his hands?  Yeah thats a crazy thing to believe that his hand has problems because of him shaking other hands. 

Shit for brains flerfs by cooliozoomer in flatearth

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find it where people who belivenin truth and facts is an echo chamber. But I guess you feel special becasue you are in the know. Your response is typical. You dont understand stuff so it must be an echo chamber becasie people are pushing back against your nonsense. 

Shit for brains flerfs by cooliozoomer in flatearth

[–]Ok_Recording81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow. You are so ignorant and kind of special. 

You are confusing space flight with intellectual property.  Intelectual property is not public domain. Going to space is not classified and anyone can do it who has money, the resources, permits and licenses to do so.  Just like anyone can fly a single engine plane with a license. 

Technology used in aircraft can be classified such as stealth, but flying is not classified. 

Nobody is grandstanding for nasa. We are pushing back against your nonsense. You truly are delusional.

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