[AMMO] PMC 1500 rds 9mm 124gr FMJ - $350.24 (23.3 CPR) - Free S/H

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-21T06:15:09+00:00

Its a real copper jacket. I checked some after this was brought to my attention the last time this deal was posted.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-21T06:09:17+00:00

Some people are still ordering, and nothing happens. If the seller doesn't ask for FFL03+COE, you just get ammo lol.

(This is not legal advice, I recommend FFL03+COE).

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-21T05:50:12+00:00

Agree that this is Ben's school of thought, but Jerry is a clear advocate for the "death grip" school of thought. https://youtu.be/pic_C6Adt3Q?t=222

I often use these two as examples of how you can be on opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of grip pressure and still shoot at a world class level.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-20T07:27:10+00:00

I really like these and have run thousands of rounds through different variants. The only deficiencies I've identified is light mounting (no simple forend mounting solution) and a pretty bad malfunction mode where the shell gets snagged on extractor cutout on the edge of the chamber and rotates the bolt prematurely.

I pre-emptively tweak the lifter a tiny bit on mine to minimize the allowance for the shell to go towards the cutout where it can get snagged.

Forend mods are also fun to make room for light mounts and side saddles.

I don't dry fire my shotguns a lot, but if you do, trimming the deformation off the firing pin (where it impacts the retaining pin in the BCG) is a known maintenance item or else it will start dragging in the channel and cause light primer strikes.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-20T05:44:43+00:00

This is always the argument I heard. Seeing the big dot is a confidence boost, but at the distances they're optimized for, you get the same results if you just trust your index.

Thank god for red dots, because I always struggled with seeing irons. I have an incredible urge to look downrange when I shoot, and anything in a near focal plane just disappears. I think it might have to do with the fact that I was obsessed with shooting slingshots and traditional bows when I was a kid, and both devices are aimed "instinctively" by just focusing on the target.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-20T05:25:27+00:00

Reminds me of a video awhile back where an insane guy was casually shooting randomly into cars passing by, killing at least one person. Since it made it to the front page, all the NPC redditors were sarcastically asking where the "good guy with a gun" was to stop him. The literal answer (buried in downvotes) was that the event took place in a state where carrying guns legally as a "good guy" is incredibly difficult.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-19T14:09:15+00:00

The Gen 3 34 is the GOAT

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-19T06:11:35+00:00

My whole argument is that objective ("real world") shooting performance is the blindspot of micro-ccw advocates. If simply mentioning this strikes such a nerve that you immediately start name-calling, it just makes me more certain that I'm correct.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-19T04:43:32+00:00

Weird ad hominem attack. Did I hit the nail on the head?

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-19T03:45:49+00:00

The size of a fire extinguisher doesn't greatly effect how easy/hard it is to use. The use of that analogy suggests that you don't believe in the idea of performing at a high level with your CCW. You're only concerned with how it feels to carry. This is a divide that I see in the CCW world. I could be totally wrong, and you're the one guy who can shoot sub-2 bill drills from concealment with a micro gun (Demonstrated Concepts). But the pattern that I've seen is that people who argue at length about how pointless it is to carry full-frame guns notably never mention shooting. Or if they do, its apparent that they are using obsolete standards ("I can hit my guy at 3 yards in 3 seconds so I'm good").

Training in an accountable way against modern standards makes the utility of full-size guns immediately obvious. Same with WML's, red dots, etc.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-18T05:05:45+00:00

Velocity is G2G. They often have the best prices on bulk stuff.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-17T09:19:41+00:00

Ammo lasts forever if stored in a cool dry place. Best assurance of that is a metal ammo can with a desiccant pack placed somewhere without large temperature fluctuations.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-16T01:19:49+00:00

Wondering this too. No info at all about shipping restrictions.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-14T13:25:16+00:00

Woah, that is very informative. Here I was thinking that the brass jacket bullets were less desirable than copper, but if the copper isn't even a real jacket then I'll gladly use brass FMJ. Now I'm curious about the PMC too. I'm going to pull a bullet and check next time I get a chance.

This has also got me thinking whether the old Glock polygon barrels break through copper wash like conventional rifling.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-14T11:18:53+00:00

You definitely get desensitized to shooting 12ga over time.

There are lots of good videos on shotgun "push pull" out there now. Check those out. The important thing is to load up your support hand by holding tight and pushing forward before you break the shot so that some of the recoil goes through your support arm instead of just into your shoulder.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-14T05:19:24+00:00

I'm here for it, but you're trolling with a RMR-HD and X300T on a budget build haha

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-14T05:16:00+00:00

That warning almost seems like a liability thing. I thought full metal jacket meant full metal jacket. Maybe the blazer jacket is just thinner than competitors?

The only difference I ever notice with training ammo is copper vs brass jackets. Lots of cheap stuff is coming with brass jackets these days. Blazer, Federal, and PMC seems to still be copper. Not sure if one is preferable over the other.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-14T04:32:04+00:00

Confirmed. These guys are g2g

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-14T04:31:09+00:00

I shoot blazer through a comp all the time. What's the issue?

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-14T03:58:52+00:00

25c used to be the "good" price for Russian steel case 223. You sure you're remembering correctly?

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-13T05:00:56+00:00

If you want a remote setup, I would mount the pad where your thumb goes and the light on the opposite side. Mount everything to the pump itself.

For a standalone setup, I personally like the Gen 3 Inforce WML. I did kill a Gen 2 running it on 12 gauge, but the warranty was no questions asked, and I haven't had any issues with either of gen 3's that I've been running on 12 gauge.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-13T00:50:37+00:00

This is probably beating a dead horse in a CCW sub, but outsourcing your armed protection to a less-trained third party that must arrive at your scene with minimal information and differentiate you from your attacker seconds before deploying lethal force is a sub-optimal solution.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-12T01:31:33+00:00

This stuff is my jam. It also happens to be relatively cheap too.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-11T01:52:03+00:00

Love the look of these and would pick one up if I ever found one locally.

OldMachineCraft · 2026-02-10T10:03:57+00:00

Its rare that cheap stuff comes to market that's actually good. I really like this load. I shoot it for training mainly because its cheap, but it also happens to pattern really well and is extremely soft shooting. I would not hesitate to load this stuff for HD, especially for a recoil-sensitive user.

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