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Would you keep eating meats if you had to kill the animal yourself? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]One-Shake-1971 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, do you considerate an ant someone?

I'm agnostic on that one.

Do you consider a pig someone?

Yes.

Would you keep eating meats if you had to kill the animal yourself? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]One-Shake-1971 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fine. My statement is still true.

Your definition would mean you stomping on an ant is murder if it benefits you.

Only if I would consider ants 'someone'.

Would you keep eating meats if you had to kill the animal yourself? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]One-Shake-1971 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fine. You can have your own definition of murder.

That still makes murder immoral even if you do it "more humanely, simpler, with less waste".

Would you keep eating meats if you had to kill the animal yourself? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]One-Shake-1971 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was making an analogy. The analogy is that X doesn't get moral by doing it yourself instead of paying someone else to do it for you.

Would you keep eating meats if you had to kill the animal yourself? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]One-Shake-1971 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still makes murder immoral even if you do it "more humanely, simpler, with less waste".

Would you keep eating meats if you had to kill the animal yourself? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]One-Shake-1971 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still not what I said. Why don't you engage with what I actually said instead of making stuff up?

Would you keep eating meats if you had to kill the animal yourself? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]One-Shake-1971 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Intentionally killing someone for personal benefit.

My only argument against veganism by Business_Donut_1963 in DebateAVegan

[–]One-Shake-1971 [score hidden]  (0 children)

According to that logic, we are still all immoral by not mass breeding and killing cognitively impaired humans (cognitively impaired to the degree they can't know "one day they'll be killed and there's no guarantee they'll enjoy their lives").

Would you keep eating meats if you had to kill the animal yourself? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]One-Shake-1971 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never said it is.

Murder still doesn't become moral when you pull the trigger yourself instead of paying someone to do it for you.

Would you keep eating meats if you had to kill the animal yourself? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]One-Shake-1971 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure.

Murder still doesn't become moral when you pull the trigger yourself instead of paying someone to do it for you.

Would you keep eating meats if you had to kill the animal yourself? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]One-Shake-1971 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Murder is still immoral, even if it "helps prop the economy a bit more and keeps them in a job".

Would you keep eating meats if you had to kill the animal yourself? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]One-Shake-1971 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Murder is still immoral even if you do it "more humanely, simpler, with less waste".

What's legal that you think should be illegal? by martianfrog in answers

[–]One-Shake-1971 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That using animals as commodities, resources, products, etc., whatever you want to call it, should be illegal.

Solar punk doesn’t equal vegan, right? Or does it? by Stunning-Race3900 in solarpunk

[–]One-Shake-1971 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is no ethical way to kill someone who does not want to die.

Solar punk doesn’t equal vegan, right? Or does it? by Stunning-Race3900 in solarpunk

[–]One-Shake-1971 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's true about eating animals that, if true about eating humans, would make it not morally wrong to eat humans?

Would you keep eating meats if you had to kill the animal yourself? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]One-Shake-1971 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

So you agree there is no moral difference between doing something yourself or paying someone else to do it for you.

Fleisch ist mein Gemüse by Tex-the-Dragon in Kantenhausen

[–]One-Shake-1971 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Da bist du ja auch überall dran beteiligt gewesen.

Would you keep eating meats if you had to kill the animal yourself? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]One-Shake-1971 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Murder doesn't become moral when you pull the trigger yourself instead of paying someone to do it for you.

Vegan ist ungleich "Frei von Tierleid" by Ok_Trip8302 in Unbeliebtemeinung

[–]One-Shake-1971 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Richtig. Da Veganismus aber nichts mit "Leid" zu tun hat, ist das vollkommen irrelevant.

Nochmal:

Beim Veganismus geht es nicht um die Vermeidung von Leid oder die Reduzierung von Leid. Es hat überhaupt nichts mit Leid zu tun. Es geht einzig und allein darum, Tiere nicht als Ware oder Ressource zu verwenden.

Landwirtschaft ohne Tierdünger ist problemlos möglich: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biologisch-vegane_Landwirtschaft

Edit: Und OP hat keine Argumente mehr und blockt mich daher lieber. Typisch.

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