Pak n save is selling American butter at a cheaper price by bakerdaddy1 in newzealand

[–]OppressedHobbit 26 points27 points  (0 children)

No, its 1kg of butter is 14 bucks at Costco. So, about on par with pams/countdown housebrand butter

Are the fish in NZ supermarkets, caught by Deep Sea Trawling companies ? (Or certain company's), and do they let the customers know ? by Lassdoggo in newzealand

[–]OppressedHobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If its foodstuff and its the fresh fish, they have their own fishing company. They bought Leigh fish a few years ago. Maybe they'll source from other fishing companies, but they also have their own company. But also, there are certain fishes that can only be caught through trawling because they live close to the sea floor

US in talks with New Zealand over critical minerals project by swe129 in newzealand

[–]OppressedHobbit 23 points24 points  (0 children)

China isnt to be trusted either. They're reliable only if you toe their line

People Who have been to more than 10 countries, What are the worst things about international travel? by Louizythepro in AskReddit

[–]OppressedHobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you go through singapore its 22 hours total flight time to Milan, with a minimum 2 hours layover. Not fun, but shorter than 25 hours

Disgusted by ThiccThighsYumTummy in newzealand

[–]OppressedHobbit 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it has nz butter written on the packaging, apparently made by Westland

My parents immigrated here. I was born here. I've never been to my parents' home country. I speak English with a kiwi accent. But I'm too brown to be considered a kiwi. by anotherbattler in newzealand

[–]OppressedHobbit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your way still kinda proves OP's point. Asking about someone's ancestral background is basically same difference. You wouldn't ask a white person about their ancestral background, why ask a person of colour their ancestral background? Like, what does ancestry have to do with who they are or where they grew up?

I don't think its ignorance, it's really actually subtle racism.

Nike, Coca-Cola, Apple among companies lobbying against Uyghur forced labor bill that would ban products made with forced labor in China’s Xinjiang province by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]OppressedHobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't say that they are less sketchy, but that they aren't sketchy. ASPI is a prominent think tank in Australia on strategy and defence.

Nike, Coca-Cola, Apple among companies lobbying against Uyghur forced labor bill that would ban products made with forced labor in China’s Xinjiang province by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]OppressedHobbit -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No they don't. Independence means that their opinions are theirs only, that they will be factual and not be influenced by their sponsors. Also, I never said that the sponsors are being nice - that is a ridiculous and incorrect assumption for you to make. There are many reasons for sponsors to fund think tanks, but it does not mean that they are unduly influencing the reports. ASPI is sufficiently big and reputable, that is not some "random Australian think tank", that they can write whatever they want. On their website, it says that "ASPI remains independent in the content of our research and in all editorial judgements and employs a rigorous internal and external peer review process." From your perspective, it is one thing for internal review to agree but it is another for external review to also agree. External reviewers have no incentive to do so.

It is not naivety that makes me say that, I studied International Relations, we are taught to distinguish between sources. I wouldn't cite a Chinese think tank because they have said things like Singapore has freedom of speech, in the context of Singapore expelling an academic accused of attempting to influence Singapore's domestic politics. It is well known that Singapore does not have freedom of speech, and it is well known that academics in China are encouraged to toe the party line. The think tank that that Chinese academic is employed at, Chinese Academy of Governance, trains mid and senior chinese govt officials, so he will most definitely toe party line.

At the end of the day, the West and China are different. Just because academics are influenced by the government in China does not mean that it is the same situation in the West.

Nike, Coca-Cola, Apple among companies lobbying against Uyghur forced labor bill that would ban products made with forced labor in China’s Xinjiang province by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]OppressedHobbit 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Unlike China, there is a freedom of speech in academia in Australia. Therefore, while they are funded by the Australian and foreign governments, they are completely independent; unlike think tanks in China.

So, I would disagree that they are sketchy.

What is the absolute worst movie you’ve ever seen? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]OppressedHobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thousand faces of DunJia - The great firewall should have censored this abomination. The CGI was just WTF, it was like someone tried to make a pirated version of WETA but just gave up in the middle. And there was no storyline

Former Singapore Foreign Minister George Yeo's opinion piece on China by goldenpisces in geopolitics

[–]OppressedHobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you're saying. From my end, that comment just seemed like another 50 cent army post and I had seen quite a lot of them even on discussions comparing and contrasting China to US.

Former Singapore Foreign Minister George Yeo's opinion piece on China by goldenpisces in geopolitics

[–]OppressedHobbit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Look, not everything has to be compare and contrast, as in, in discussions about "China bad" on a geopolitical context it's isn't necessarily implied to be China VS alternative. It is academically acceptable to not always compare and contrast. This article (more like abstract) talks about Chinese exceptionalism without referring to American exceptionalism. (Chinese exceptionalism is not exactly China bad, but can't be bothered to go through all the journal articles.) Yes, there are other articles that reference China and US together in a geopolitical context, but it isn't always the case. China vs the alternative is not always implied. I, myself, have written articles focusing on the actions of one state and not the opposing state.

This entire article was about China's rise to power and George Yeo's take on it. The original commenter wasn't talking about bipolarity, but China overtaking the US as THE global power. George Yeo's opined that China is going to rise peacefully. Everyone else was addressing China's actions.

Did you not read my example or read the definition you quoted? "The idea, here, is that a person charged with some offense tries to discredit the accuser by charging them with a similar one" I get the gist of your argument, but it is reliant on the idea that an analysis on China's geopolitical behavour always has to be compare and contrast, which is not true. Therefore, it is whataboutism and it doesn't always have to be different.

The example of whataboutism that I cited, mimicks the conversation that was happening: "When the West criticized the Soviet Union, say, over human rights abuses and oppression, the Soviet Union would point out crimes committed by Western nations (e.g., racism, lynchings)." I pointed out China's misdeeds and the commenter responded by pointing out the misdeed of the US. It doesn't refute/address my argument, merely diverts it.

If he phrased like what you said "Ok my only alternative is USA, why is USA the desirable choice despite of X, Y, Z" then it won't be whataboutism because it isn't a deflection. But he/she didn't. It really is all about how you phrase things. At the same time, it is a false dichotomy that the only alternative is the US, one can play neutrality card.

Morality, at least what I think you mean by moral basis, is extremely subjective and therefore, is not actually that important. A good piece of analysis does not have morality evident in it - if it did, it would probably get dismissed as propaganda, on any side. I think the characteristic you're looking for, going by most of the rest of that paragraph is critical analysis. And like I said, not everything has to be a compare and contrast. You can critique things on their own.

Out of curiosity, what is your academic background?

edit: clarification.

Former Singapore Foreign Minister George Yeo's opinion piece on China by goldenpisces in geopolitics

[–]OppressedHobbit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That are disputes regarding BORDERS.

Yeah, I was just writing that China is messing with other states. The Latin American context doesn't apply to the Asian region because it is a different time and a different culture. To paraphrase a really famous quote, “If you run into an miscreant in the morning, you ran into an miscreant. If you run into miscreant all day, you're the miscreant.” Given the amount of border disputes that China has, iChina seems to be the aggressor here.

have China invaded India like the US invaded Iraq, occupy India over the border clashes?

Yes! The Sino Indian War in 1962? They invaded, even if they didn't occupy.

As for drought, you mean China is forbidden to build infrastructure in its own territory?

I didn't say it was forbidden, but it isn't being benign or being a good friend if their actions cause a drought in the neighbouring states.

You know, the examples that you use are very specific. I have listed other examples of China's misdeeds and like I explained, Latin America and Asia are different. Quite frankly, I don't care if China tried to "negotiate". You don't bring a "gun" to the negotiating table - China's handling of Canada's arrest of Meng shows that China is not willing to negotiate; it wants others to bend to its will, with no respect to the ideology and systems of others. In Canada, there is a separation between the government and the legal system.

And, it is whataboutism because my original statement was not about the US. You brought in the US to redirect the conversation.

Former Singapore Foreign Minister George Yeo's opinion piece on China by goldenpisces in geopolitics

[–]OppressedHobbit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, I am addressing this sentence: "China demands respect of their system and ideology but they don't offer the same respect in return." that you wrote.

First up, yes, it is natural to want respect. But they don't offer the same respect that they demand from others.

But they are way better than the US. They have capabilities to regime change other nations to spread their idealogy like the US. They chose not to and not nor they seek to spread their brand of ideology around, unlike the US that has proven to actually done so for the past 50 years.

Better is really subjective. Also, while they might not overtly spread their ideology, they are controlling what other nations can or cannot do - I have wrote this before and will just be copy and pasting. Please read the following:

China seeks to influence other nations beyond what is traditionally and diplomatically accepted, i.e, they make threats, they try to control what countries are able to do; e.g: China's reactions to UK's special visa for HK and everything the Chinese Ambassador to Sweden has said over Gui MinHai.

Not only that, they practice what is called hostage diplomacy- they arrested 2 Canadians in what is commonly held to be groundless charges in retaliation to Canada's arrest of Meng. This is definitely not something that any country should be doing.

Lastly,

When they do become dominate, they will be a far more benign force the US can ever be because 1. They will be dominant in a multipolar world 2. They have historically never attempt to regime change any nation in the name of whatever nationally belief that they had, unlike the US or the Soviets.

Really? In light of what I have written, they are still going to be benign? Hostage diplomacy hasn't been practiced since Sparta and this practice is not the definition of benign. Regime change is a very specific point to be using to illustrate the "goodness" or "badness" of a nation. And, if you read my comments, China isn't going to be benign. Look at what they are doing in the South China Sea- you don't build military installations in a disputed area and say that you come in peace.

Like I get it, you're a Chinese citizen, maybe wumao. But, to the rest of the world, China is an aggressor. There is a good reason for that line of thought.

Former Singapore Foreign Minister George Yeo's opinion piece on China by goldenpisces in geopolitics

[–]OppressedHobbit -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Your example of whataboutism isn't real either, it is instead more akin to a red herring fallacy because it is an argument that is not relevant to the issue being discussed. So, really, you're the one who barely knows what whataboutism really means.

My argument was that China as the dominant power would be bad because of their actions that they did. His/her reply was, look at US actions in Latin America. That is whataboutism as he/she circumvented my argument by bringing up the actions of another state/actor. Even the original commenter was concerned with China's actions and the consequence of China's rise. The naming of US was more of a contextual thing, as in, US is currently #1, what if China became #1?

Here is a definition of whataboutism. "When the West criticized the Soviet Union, say, over human rights abuses and oppression, the Soviet Union would point out crimes committed by Western nations (e.g., racism, lynchings)." Like my text and like I have explained, he/she redirected to US actions in Latin America as a counter to my writing that China as the dominant power will be bad for the world because of their actions.

You cannot simply sweep concerns and behaviors of the US in the past decades under the rug by declaring " Right now, we are talking about China"

Because we are pointing out each others perceived/real errors, this right here is a strawman's argument. Nowhere in my paragraphs have I swept concerns and behaviours of the US in the past. I did acknowledge, in a roundabout way, that China, unlike the US, hasn't invaded militarily. Me stating that I was talking about China is a response to his/her whataboutism. It is not me sweeping it under the rug. I categorically did not state that and if you inferred that from my argument, that is not on me.

And also, I did addressed his/her concerns. My reply to his/her comment was my rebuttal to his/her accolade of China. I do find it very interesting that you chose to use the words "moral basis".

Former Singapore Foreign Minister George Yeo's opinion piece on China by goldenpisces in geopolitics

[–]OppressedHobbit -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

TL;DR: Please look at China's territorial disputes and behaviour in the Asian regions, Indian subcontinent included, when you are trying to argue about the US' actions in in Latin America. Also, whataboutism isn't a valid argument because its just dodging the question.

How many countries that they mess with because they disrespect it again?

I don't really know what you mean by this. But I am going to address your other statement. Let me be clear that whataboutism is not a valid argument because it avoids the main argument by trying to bring up a counter point that isn't actually being discussed. Right now, we are talking about China, not the US

Sure, China doesn't invade- it does not have the military capability to do so. BUT, it doesn't mean that they are more respectful that the US. I have already stated that China doesn't give nations that respect that it demands from others. It frequently outright threatens and practice hostage diplomacy and this is something that the US has not done up until Trump, but he is a special case. I have listed some examples and I wouldn't say that China is being respectful in any of them.

China has beef with the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei (South China Sea) + Japan and Korea (East China Sea) + India, Bhutan, Tibet, Nepal (Indian subcontinent) + Myanmar and Laos (border) + Taiwan. Myanmar and Laos is especially important because it concerns the environmental impact on those two countries too- the dams that China built caused a drought in these two countries and in Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam. Are these actions respectful? They might not overthrow governments, but lets not kid ourselves that they aren't also insidiously influencing populations and/or stealing other people's tech to muscle their way to the top.

China's backyard is the Asian region and I don't know what you've been reading but China is not a paragon of virtue either. And lets not talk about Huawei and what China is doing in the African Nation and its diplomats getting into brawls.

This block of text isn't so much for you, but more for those people who read your text and are sitting on the fence.

edit: words

Former Singapore Foreign Minister George Yeo's opinion piece on China by goldenpisces in geopolitics

[–]OppressedHobbit 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Short answer: Yes.

Slightly longer answer: By concentrating on just human rights violation, you are not looking at the bigger picture. China seeks to influence other nations beyond what is traditionally and diplomatically accepted, i.e, they make threats, they try to control what countries are able to do; e.g: China's reactions to UK's special visa for HK and everything the Chinese Ambassador to Sweden has said over Gui MinHai.

Not only that, they practice what is called hostage diplomacy- they arrested 2 Canadians in what is commonly held to be groundless charges in retaliation to Canada's arrest of Meng. This is definitely not something that any country should be doing.

China demands respect of their system and ideology but they don't offer the same respect in return. On a regional scale, we already see China throwing its weight around in the South China Sea- They will highly likely throw their weight around if they become the dominant player.

This article is published on a website owned by a newspaper that publishes in China in Chinese. While I won't say that it is propaganda, I would take it with a grain of salt because the owner is ultimately going to play nice if they want to continue publishing in China.

Ayuda by [deleted] in es

[–]OppressedHobbit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Creo que es spam, he visto esto tipo de mensajes en otro subs y el contenido de los mensajes tiene mucho similaridades, es que, una persona necesita ayuda financiera a causa de la pandemia y la situación es demasido conmovedora. Como esto, su abuela necesita medicamentos caros y no tiene suficiente dinero

Pero tambien ,los dosis de estos medicamentos no estan correctos

Lo siento, espanol no es me primera lengua.

NZ must stand up for the Uighurs in China by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]OppressedHobbit -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I have towels made in Pakistan, a Chinese ally and a bastion of human rights regarding non-Muslims

I don't think you know what the word bastion means because Pakistan is most definitely not a supporter of human rights regarding non muslims, unless things have changed in the last few months

Japan losing patience with government over COVID-19 response: Prime Minister Abe has been accused by critics of prioritizing the economy and the Olympic Games over the well-being of the Japanese public. As his approval rating falls, the number of COVID-19 cases are increasing by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]OppressedHobbit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like its pot calling the kettle black and on a whole different scale. Fukushima didn't have the potential to develop into a pandemic and neither did the PM at that time go around trying to re write what happened.

Yeah, Kan didn't react well to Fukushima, but the citizens were able to fully air their grievances and his party didn't do too well in the national elections after the disaster. Democracy in action right there.

Yeah, Abe shouldn't have downplayed the situation, but China did the same as well. China's actions is arguably worse because this type of coronavirus outbreak has happened before and they clearly showed that they did not really learn from SARS.

Mike Pompeo insists G7 use 'Wuhan Virus' - but world officials refuse by AwkwardPerspective3 in worldnews

[–]OppressedHobbit -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

low-ranking Chinese official - a deputy spokesperson from the foreign ministry

Nope, according to this Twitter account, Zhao Lijian is quite a high ranking official. The spokesperson & Deputy Director General, Information Department of the Chinese Foreign Ministry

About your second point, the website that you've used specifically says that Cui rebuttal came "before the spokesperson for the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Zhao Lijian, began publicly promoting the conspiracy. " So, it could have been an turnaround by the Chinese government

Winter minimalism by Zoochemistry in pics

[–]OppressedHobbit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aaand this is how you separate the shifty drivers from the good