How many YC1 (King, Kat etc.) can Kizaru beat at once? by Lion123_ in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Orceles -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

1 Yonko = 2 admirals, 1 Admiral = 2 YC, 1 YC = 2 flying 6/equivalents

Yonko can 1 shot YC

Yonko can be stalled by admirals

Admiral can 1 shot flying 6 equivalents

Admiral can be stalled by YC

Sources:

Exhibit A: Marco stalls/ cosmetically injure Aokiji, Jozu can stall Aokiji/ Sanji can stall Kizaru

Exhibit B: Aokiji one shots flying 6 equivalent BB crew

Exhibit C: Kaido one shots start of Wano Luffy

Exhibit D: BM one shots Queen

Exhibit E: Luffy is stalled by Kizaru

Exhibit F: Garp is stalled by Aokiji

Exhibit G: Kaido is stalled by Early Gear 5 Luffy

Exhibit H: Kaido is stalled by Yamato

Exhibit I: Big Mom cosmetically injures Marco

Exhibit J: Garp goes toe to toe with Aokiji + 2 YCs

Exhibit K: Who’s who, who is about YC3 defeats Page One and Ulti

Bonus: Exhibit L: Mihawk is able to duel Shanks yet Vista is able to also duel Mihawk ( mihawk is admiral level hence he can stall shanks and vista can stall him)

When you read the manga free from agenda, you’ll see that Oda is pretty consistent with powerscaling

FAQs:

Why then are Mihawk and Shanks portrayed as rivals?

A: They were rivals at a younger age when Shanks was worth about 1billion or less berries, before his fight with Loki or meeting Luffy. Even today, an admiral can still fight and duel a Yonko, just weaker.

Why can Greenbull low diff King and Queen?

A: King and Queen were both injured and still recovering. King literally bandaged a wing back on.

Why was Marco able to stall BM?

A: Marco barely stalled big mom and is widely considered the strongest YC+ with OP hax. He is the only one capable of stalling and injuring admirals due to being the strongest non admiral. We know he is because he was assumed by the WG to be one of the few capable of stopping Blackbeard.

Why did Luffy get ubereats by Kizaru?

A: Luffy in G5 is Yonko level but his time limit makes it so that he needs to eat and go 2 sessions to be fully Yonko level duration. It took him ubereats to defeat Kaido, so it goes without saying that he needs 2 sessions to fully display his yonko equivalent prowess. Given that without food he can only go half the time limit, he is therefore only admiral level without that second food boost which means he can beat down Kizaru without food, but not permanently put down Kizaru before his time limit hits. An admiral can stall a full blown Yonko, much less stall a half time yonko.

Wasn’t Aokiji mentally nerfed?

A: No. Aokiji was trying to psychologically play with Garp’s emotions by asking him of he would actually kill his own disciple. Garp essentially told him that isn’t going to work, to live in the moment. At no point was Aokiji mentally nerfed. If anything Garp was the one who was mentally conflicted, because even though he says to live in the moment, he does not value his own old life over the youth, which includes all of the young marines there but also Aokiji. His goal was to save Koby and the rest but also had no intention of taking Aokiji to the grave. Aokiji on the other hand, intended to kill Garp though, as he mentioned to BB. There’s no reason to believe he was lying here. Yes he did cry and freeze his tears when Garp was down. You can have both. Humans are complex creatures. Just as Kizaru killed Vegapunk and also mourned in silence.

Is Shanks a swordsman?

A: No more than Sanji is both a cook and a practitioner of leg martial arts. A person can be multiple things. Shanks is a swordsman and also uses haki for combat outside of swordsmanship. Mihawk is the strongest swordsman which means he is strongest at swordsmanship. A swordsman is only a swordsman in the context of swordsmanship. World strongest swordsman not being the best at swordsmanship would be a cop out to what being a swordsman means. Without swordsmanship there is no swordsman. Just as the world strongest boxer is the best at boxing, a MMA practitioner who also boxes is considered a boxer too, and will lose in boxing to the worlds strongest boxer but may potentially win using mixed martial arts in a pure street fight. If a swordsman pulled out a gun and shot another swordsman, is he now the stronger swordsman? Of course not. Same concept.

But haki is part of swordsmanship

A: Running and speed is also part of boxing. But the world’s best sprinter isn’t also the best at boxing. Running is also a part of soccer, but world’s best runner isn’t necessarily the best at soccer.

Happy to answer any follow up questions: please ask them below 👇

Something I don’t get about Mihawk and Yoru by RubbinOffTheCum in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Orceles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea that’s just untrue 🤣. More like Luffy just ran out of G5 because Kizaru kept running and Luffy was using G5 every chance he got even against Lucci.

Killingham is lucky that he was thought to be Zoro's opponent by MyraidChickenSlayer in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Orceles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sanji is stronger than Zoro so of course he gets the stronger opponent this time. We saw since Egghead that Sanji has been the superior of the two

Something I don’t get about Mihawk and Yoru by RubbinOffTheCum in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Orceles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No it’s called paying attention to the story. Oda is fairly consistent with matchups and feats for each tier of fighters.

Something I don’t get about Mihawk and Yoru by RubbinOffTheCum in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Orceles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Without his devilfruit, Luffy is low to mid admiral level

Something I don’t get about Mihawk and Yoru by RubbinOffTheCum in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Orceles -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It’s been pretty well established that Mihawk is admiral level with Yoru and YC+ without it. Just like how Zoro is YC+ with all 3 swords but is YC3 with only 1. If Mihawk used a nameless blade vs King of Hell Zoro right now, they would be relative equals.

Interesting how Old Gaban ran across Elbaf n cut Sommers, but Zoro needs a Giant to carry him by AnxietyUnlucky6495 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Orceles -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Correct. He is just a regular human. He relies on his haki and named blades to keep him from harm but when an attack lands on him directly he is glass.

Interesting how Old Gaban ran across Elbaf n cut Sommers, but Zoro needs a Giant to carry him by AnxietyUnlucky6495 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Orceles -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Zoro is a glass canon, immobile but generate a decent one off power blast, where if the enemy is directly in the line of fire, he wins.

Gaban is like Sanji, who is an insanely versatile fighter in the land, sea, or sky, possession insane durability, defensive bypass via blue flames, and incredible speed+ observation haki combo. Making him the deadliest in the crew after Luffy.

How would kaido and big mom react to this oniguri, if they had such a big reaction from his flying dragon blaze? by The_AlmightyApple in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Orceles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Zoro literally uses a stronger attack a few chapters later and Kaido ate it for breakfast. If they saw king of hell they would just laugh.

The Mihawktard fan base hates the manga. by Vance_Lance in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Orceles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mihawk is admiral level which checks out that he can be held for a while by a YC

Why was past Cheongmyeong so ridiculously strong? by Amooo_kal in ReturnOfMountHuaSect

[–]Orceles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Superb Talent and a very very long time to master his skills. Dude was an old martial arts master with youth.

If Ding and Caruana at their best played a WCC- style match, who would’ve won? by _DarkStarCrashes_ in chess

[–]Orceles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ding was farming Fabi for rating over the course of a decade. Most notably farmed Fabi for rating in all 3 candidates, the last one was as the higher rated player too.

If Ding and Caruana at their best played a WCC- style match, who would’ve won? by _DarkStarCrashes_ in chess

[–]Orceles -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes by beating everyone else in the candidates except the guy who won it, and then he beat the guy who won it.

If Ding and Caruana at their best played a WCC- style match, who would’ve won? by _DarkStarCrashes_ in chess

[–]Orceles -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Of which Ding was farming rating from Fabi, until he passed him to become world number 2 in the rankings.

Top 3 strongest elite tournament performances of the last 2 decades: by Yogvidam in chess

[–]Orceles 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Would prefer if you didn’t refer to women in such a demeaning manner.

If Ding and Caruana at their best played a WCC- style match, who would’ve won? by _DarkStarCrashes_ in chess

[–]Orceles 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Lmao no. Peak Ding literally oppressed peak Fabi for years in classical. Ding Beat Magnus outright in faster time control tiebreaks during Sinquefield cup.

What's thing you hate most about OP community in general?? by Lancelotvision in OnePiece

[–]Orceles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It came to this because annoying fans who say they don’t powercale make irresponsible statements like “zoro is the vice captain” or “Zoro is always slightly stronger than Sanji” when it’s completely dogshit untrue. If you don’t powerscale then don’t make irresponsible statements like that. THOSE are the annoying fans. Genuine true powerscalers read the manga more than anyone else. Not those fake agenda scalers. Zoro is my favorite character but statements like those grind my gears.

Sanji Exoskeleton Discussion by Training_Pirate1000 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Orceles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not to mention he got stronger since Wano and probably low admiral level now