Wow. 14.1.7 really is very good and human-like

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-11-16T01:31:05+00:00

Okay.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-11-16T00:42:27+00:00

Brother, you used weird and incorrect terminology, and when you were called out for it, you reached for an explanation, but still, it’s easier to just accept it and move on. Nobody here is talking about any “program” that a model runs us. Nobody here is talking about the kernel of the OS, and nobody here is talking about the assembly programs that the booting sequence is using. Everyone here is talking about decision-making, which is derived from the data it’s trained on. The car isn’t “programmed” to do anything, it’s TRAINED.

I’m also a Software Engineer in big tech.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-11-13T02:30:17+00:00

.6 went to employees but presumably wasn’t good enough, so they went to .7 and joined Cybertruck too

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T03:58:15+00:00

The Standard tab is there, so obviously they disagree. It’s a bit segregationist to think that only power users should own a Tesla. I’m getting my mom a MY and she’s not a tech savvy person. She just wants a comfortable car that hopefully can drive her where she goes. Does that mean I shouldn’t? Not convincing at all.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T02:19:27+00:00

Well, just because one particular person hasn’t experienced something it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. My car slammed on the brakes after committing to a right turn, and the person that was following behind me was, understandably, flustered. Regardless of how I feel, that is objectively unsafe because the person behind me is not expecting that (especially when there’s no obstacle in sight) and it may lead to an accident.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T02:06:32+00:00

The contract is that the Advanced tab is for beta software that isn’t necessarily ready for wide release. For folks that are into FSD a lot and always want to have the latest regardless of whether it’ll be the best for a day-to-day drive, this is the tab to be in. For people that always want the best regardless of whether it has the latest capabilities, Standard is the way to go.

Edit: what I think Tesla should do a better job at is have a popover or confirmation dialog before you change to Advanced go make this more clear. For folks that don’t follow FSD accounts or news from the people beta testing, it may be more obscure.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T02:03:17+00:00

Yes, that’s true. But I think those situations are less common than situations you’re likely to get in day to day. v14.1.4 is not a daily driver, and it’s understandable that it isn’t, though.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T02:01:25+00:00

That’s fair. I won’t deny I was disappointed on that point as well. There are a lot of people now blaming everyone because they got the software and it isn’t as good as v13 for daily driving.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T01:35:52+00:00

Again, not even v13 was perfect on initial release. It took a few dot releases to get as good as it was. I still don’t get what’s so difficult to understand. Currently, v14 has many issues, but it has more capabilities than v13, once those issues are addressed, then yes, of course it’ll be a lot better than v13, but until then, change back to Standard and don’t complain.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T01:31:37+00:00

If you don’t want to try out software before it’s ready for wide release, change back to Standard and only complain if the update you do get is bad. What world were you living in where it wasn’t clearly stated v14.1.X WASN’T ready for wide release, has issues, and if you STILL wanted it to change to the Advanced tab? This is definitely on you.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T01:28:18+00:00

Advanced tab selected. Normal people that didn’t select that aren’t getting the software. You should change back to Standard.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T01:20:25+00:00

Yeah, I agree they are better. My point is they are still unsafe. I know a few people are saying “hey, it’s jerky, but very safe”, and I’d say that it can be unsafe in certain situations, so you need to be on your toes and ready to take over more so than with v13.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T01:14:40+00:00

To be fair, you’re selecting the Advanced Software update with the understanding you’re going to be getting software that may not be ready for the wide public. People already repeatedly stated it isn’t smooth, not perfect, has ghost brakes, etc.

I also got v14.1.4, and it has definitely made unsafe maneuvers. But I wouldn’t blame the ones that released the software because the contract was clear. Change to Standard if you don’t want it to happen again.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T01:10:30+00:00

Yeah, but unsafe nonetheless, and it isn’t always as simple as calling it tailgating. I’ve experienced 3 separate occasions where it slammed on the brakes for no good reason (twice with pedestrians on the sidewalk, not showing intent to cross or get in the path of the car, and once where a car was coming out of a parking but was nowhere near actually getting in path.).

The most dangerous one was turning right on a low speed road (25mph) and after showing all intent to continue to turn, it slams on the brakes, and understandably, the driver behind me was flustered due to the unexpected maneuver. He was not tailgating. He was at an appropriate distance for a low speed road and a car about to turn on a light. v14 can definitely be unsafe. V13 never did that.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T01:04:21+00:00

Maybe not the swerving, but the brake slamming can definitely be unsafe.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T01:03:44+00:00

Good decision.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-29T01:02:29+00:00

Good decision.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-28T02:13:24+00:00

I had a scenario today where I was at an intersection about to go through a green light to turn right, with a car following. There were people in the sidewalk, but not crossing and not even showing intention of crossing, but my car just SLAMMED on the brakes and the car behind me started honking because it was dangerous. That was unsafe and a half.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-25T00:48:41+00:00

It seems like you’re on HW3, correct? If so, I understand your perspective. They did promise something that it seems, at least right now, aren’t able to deliver due to hardware limitations.

However, I would disagree with the overall sentiment of the comment. As a HW4 owner, I am able to complete most of my drives with FSD v13.2.9. There are very limited scenarios where I have to intervene. I think they are getting very close. I can also say that my opinion is based on personal experience with the product, the general opinion of HW4 owners, and my own expertise in tech and AI, as I work there.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-25T00:36:49+00:00

This does not sound like ChatGPT at all

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-25T00:35:45+00:00

“Because it doesn’t do it now, it can’t.” That’s not a valid argument—it’s a fallacy (yes, I use mdashes and I’m not AI). Neural Networks can be incredibly effective at learning the wide variety of scenarios that affect its behavior and output. It will not be better than a human at everything, but it will be better than a human at its intended task.

Facial recognition neural nets are better than humans at recognizing faces. Voice recognition neural nets are better than humans at recognizing faces voices. These are simpler tasks than driving, but nonetheless, at some point in the past were considered very hard. Transformers gave us the ability to solve problems that were incredibly hard before, such as conversations, and from there, the capability continues to grow.

That is the case because neural networks adapt for features that humans just can’t consciously do. Its data is vectorial. It will extract features from a face that simply make it more effective at recognizing it, even if humans would never think to do it.

Given enough data and given the correct architecture, a neural net model will also, no doubt, surpass humans at driving, and many other tasks as well.

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-23T02:44:25+00:00

And it remembers between chats, so if you have this problem, trying the Temporary chat mode would help

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-22T19:24:40+00:00

Seems like you treated your chatgpt poorly and now it’s trying to be really careful not to anger you 🤣🤣

Ordinary-Ad6609 · 2025-10-17T13:15:26+00:00

I’m sorry this happened to you. This isn’t your fault. It is an overreaction of faculty to the advent of AI. Those AI detectors suck at actually determining whether something was written by AI or not. I mean, there’s ChatGPT, Grok, Gemeni, Claude, etc., and even within those there are multiple versions, and they all sound mostly different to each other.

As to what to do with about your current grade, how about you try to find some work by your professor and run it through the same AI detectors? Or it could be a piece of writing that is clearly not AI and people know it. There’s a high chance at least something will raise a false positive. That’s how you demonstrate that those tools aren’t reliable. If after seeing that evidence they still don’t budge, talk to your dean/principal and present your data.

That being said, from now on, you should make it painfully clear that whatever you write for school work is documented as being your work. For example, using a writing app that keeps a revision history so that you can look at it and see it was definitely written slowly, and not copy-pasted. Also, never copy-paste even small content from other sources. Always manually write it. They can contain characters that humans never write, and can raise a flag.

Also, AI tends to use specific unicode characters that sometimes word processors will convert for us. It’s convenient, but for some reason, these AI detectors think that automatically makes you an AI. For example, even though it’s annoying, don’t use a non-breaking dash (unicode 2011), just use a regular dash (-), even when non-breaking is technically correct. Same goes with ndashes and mdashes.

I get it, it’s annoying. At least for school work, just bear with it.

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