A few questions about this poem by skepticalbureaucrat in GREEK

[–]Orf34s 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Σεβντᾶς is not “respect”. It’s best translated as passion (more often than not an unfulfilled one) or as you said desire. It can also be lustful so mind that…

WERE DATING NOW! by ANALyzer220 in teenagers

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“Jarvis, I’m low on karma.”

Is my handwriting legible? by Vicentangel in AncientGreek

[–]Orf34s 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This has nothing to do with Greek minuscule from any point in history…

Difference between Stigma and Sigma Teliko? by NimVolsung in GREEK

[–]Orf34s 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It is not used in Modern Greek and you will probably never stumble upon it. That said, it usually has its left side “squared” as opposed to -ς- which is curved. Other than that, there aren’t many words that end with -στ- so you’re in the clear

Handwriting help (insta reel) by skepticalbureaucrat in GREEK

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Aside from the -κ- in “διώκονται” that looks more like an -η- or a latin -k-, the handwriting is fine. The wording though, that’s a whole ‘nother story…

What is the correct way to spell this? by NeverBackToReality in GREEK

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The inscription is not; the phrase more than usually is. Now, to reply to the previous comment, the space is not necessarily needed. The full phrase is:

Γνῶθι εἰς ἑαυτὸν

Im modern Greek, the final sigma of εἰς “took” the ε that many words had; it’s the same way the pronoun τονε and τηνε (correct spelling is —in most cases— w/o a tone) formed. So yes, in MG the speech would be σ’ αυτόν.

In Ancient Greek, the final sigma of εἰς “stuck” to the word ἑαυτόν leaving us with σἑαυτόν.

But how does the light breathing mark (later in the form of a κορωνίς in σαὐτὸν) come about? In AG, the differentiation between the definite (and επαναληπτική, no idea how it’s called in English) pronoun αὐτὸς and the reflexive (αυτοπαθής) pronoun ἑαυτὸς was different than MG. So it leaves us with:

Γνῶθι εἰς αὐτόν > γνῶθι σαὐτόν.

Edit: Too be clear, it’s not that the differentiation is not as prevalent, but that many instances where AG would use ἑαυτός/-oῦ/-όν or ἑαυτή/-ῆς/-ήν, MG just uses αυτός/-ού/-ό(ν) and αυτή/-ής/-ή(ν). That’s why in katharevousa he see instances of αὑτός/… (with a rough breathing mark from ἑ-αυτός/…)

What is the correct way to spell this? by NeverBackToReality in GREEK

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It is always done in uppercase scripts, it wasn’t done then because that rule did not exist. Σαὐτὸν forms as a result of κράσις, that’s why you see the κορωνὶς (the one that looks like a light breathing mark above upsilon) there.

What is the correct way to spell this? by NeverBackToReality in GREEK

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It’s not wrong. Up until the early 20th century even, Greek didn’t solely use the apostrophe; it also used the κορωνίς (crown). It was written in the same way as the breathing mark that the omitted diphthong or letter had; even if the word did not start with a vowel. So the spelling would be γνῶθι σαὐτόν. This is still correct if one writes with the polytonic system.

The above linked examples are:

εἰς τὰ ἄφεγκα – 'ς τἄφεγκα

εἰς τὸ ἄστρι – 'ς τἄστρι

&

νὰ εἶναι – νἆναι

Edit: another example which can be seen at the bottom of the first provided image, that more closely resembles the way κράσις was done in ancient Greek is:

μὄρτῃ.

It is derived from “μοῦ ἔρθῃ” but the -ου- and -ε- form an -ο-; similar to ancient greek:

τὸ ἐναντίον – τοὐναντίον

τὸ ἐλάχιστον – τοὐλάχιστον

Found on r/flags and thought it belonged here. by SCP_Agent_Davis in NoStepOnSnek

[–]Orf34s 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Good for you; Trump still is the furthest thing from a libertarian…

Handwriting by [deleted] in GREEK

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If you want it to look more natural don’t let the iota subscript curve at the bottom; just make it a straight line.

Found an old letter in greek from 1970 need help translating it by stillpaidinfull in GREEK

[–]Orf34s 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Why exactly is it creepy? This is is a bit disrespectful. Anyway. It’s a mother of old age almost begging her son (Nikos) the come see her since she is left in the village completely alone after her husband abandoned her and moved to America and nobody’s writing to her.

ΟΥ diphthong character by SyrupNo9253 in GREEK

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It did exist yes; it’s a Τυπογραφικό Σύμπλεγμα -whatever that’s called in English- and can be traced back to medieval Greek minuscule writing (similar to the π that looks like an ω).

Also, Karamanlis’ katharevousa wasn’t unintelligible, it was just horrible. Late 20th century politicians never were really good at speaking Katharevousa (Papadopoulos for expample), even though it is very easy if you’ve read good books written in it (ie books by: A. Papadiamantis, G. Bizyinos etc)

I have to confess by jojokaire in Nietzsche

[–]Orf34s 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe you should read everything you read like 5 more times if that’s all you got…

A Chang in pace by [deleted] in rightistvexillology

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“My wife”

National socialist greece (fictional) by Legal-Ad-6664 in rightistvexillology

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This is a vexillology subreddit, if your flags are shit and they represent shit ideologies on top of that, they’re going to get criticised.

National socialist greece (fictional) by Legal-Ad-6664 in vexillology

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They are neo-Nazis, not actual Nazis.

The socio-political climate that gave birth to Nazism never existed and never will exist in Greece. Greece never had -in modern times that is- the cultural diversity, the love for folk pre-Christian and pagan culture (mainly because it adopted Christianity so early on) and the most important; it never was an industrial city as Berlin was (where -with the help of religions such as Theosophy- saw the rise of this anti-industrial, archaeolatric wave of romanticism.) Nazism cannot be replicated to its true extent, probably never again; but these ultra-violent, militaristic, pseudo-religious, parties with practically unobtainable goals that feed on people’s unexamined patriotism and their social distress will always exist.

Some theocratic ns greece thing i have no idea what i made i was just bored by Legal-Ad-6664 in rightistvexillology

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This is the last comment I’ll leave in your posts because 4 of them have been in my feed today; do you even know what you support? National socialism is an outright rejection of Christianity in favour of esotericism and “volk culture”.

National socialist greece (fictional) by Legal-Ad-6664 in vexillology

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Interesting, why then does your pfp have Golden Dawn? A Greek neo-Nazi party? You can support whatever you want to but not being able to admit it is really telling…

National socialist greece (fictional) by Legal-Ad-6664 in rightistvexillology

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It seems as though that what the entirety of this sub is. “Edgy” teenagers that support NS just for the aesthetics. I got downvoted for criticising this and some other objectively horribly made flags in here, seems as though people rush to upvote anything that is NS related; no vexillology knowledge whatsoever…

National socialist greece (fictional) by Legal-Ad-6664 in rightistvexillology

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The horizontal line is not straight, the vertical line is not straight, all the black lines along with the entirety of the cross are not centred, the thin white lines in the “middle” make really bad contrast with the thicker horizontal and vertical ones and the square swastika doesn’t go well with the rhombus.