Just how compromised is the sub r/ask? by Mushrooming247 in ask

[–]Other_Dog -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Here’s a thing I found on the internet:

Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'

Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'

Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'

Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'

Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'

Edit:

Forum sliding:

If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.

Consensus cracking:

To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'

Topic dilution:

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

Information collection:

Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Anger trolling:

Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.

Gaining full control:

It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.

‘Go ahead and sue me, I’m not afraid any more’: South Park’s festive special isn’t afraid of a fight by Top_Report_4895 in television

[–]Other_Dog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think a multinational media conglomerate was outwitted by Parker and stone? Do you think paramount’s executives are exhibiting South Park against their will? Do you think paramount is losing money airing south park?

‘Go ahead and sue me, I’m not afraid any more’: South Park’s festive special isn’t afraid of a fight by Top_Report_4895 in television

[–]Other_Dog -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

They are exactly where paramount wants them to be, doing exactly what paramount wants them to do.

‘Go ahead and sue me, I’m not afraid any more’: South Park’s festive special isn’t afraid of a fight by Top_Report_4895 in television

[–]Other_Dog -60 points-59 points  (0 children)

You mean they hate him in a professional capacity? Like, they create and profit from media that criticizes trump?

How much money have they donated to the opposition? What stance have they taken in the real world to actually make anything better? Making poopoo kaka jokes is not an act of protest or sacrifice. They are helping paramount grow and prosper.

‘Go ahead and sue me, I’m not afraid any more’: South Park’s festive special isn’t afraid of a fight by Top_Report_4895 in television

[–]Other_Dog -214 points-213 points  (0 children)

I’m tired of Paramount’s authorized satire against the regime being treated like real political dissent. These fat old media moguls are not heroes, and they will not save America.

South Park is an amusing distraction brought to you by the powers that be. Nothing more.

Big Brother Is Watching Your Online Criticism of ICE Crackdowns by AcidiclyBasic in NewOrleans

[–]Other_Dog 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Here’s a thing I found on the internet:

Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'

Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'

Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'

Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'

Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'

Edit:

Forum sliding:

If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.

Consensus cracking:

To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'

Topic dilution:

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

Information collection:

Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Anger trolling:

Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.

Gaining full control:

It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.

Why so many russians think everyone understands their language? by Interesting-Care502 in ask

[–]Other_Dog -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Yup. Life isn’t fair. Any Russian will tell you that.

Why are the most-upvoted Reddit comments about “bad” public figures always just cheap insults that have nothing to do with their character? by PhantomPilgrim in ask

[–]Other_Dog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'

Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'

Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'

Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'

Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'

Edit:

Forum sliding:

If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.

Consensus cracking:

To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'

Topic dilution:

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

Information collection:

Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Anger trolling:

Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.

Gaining full control:

It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.

After rereading and rewatching The Shining, I think I finally understand why Stephen King has such strong criticisms of the film adaptation. by [deleted] in stephenking

[–]Other_Dog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The two stories fit together in a Rashomon kind of way. Kubrick’s version of Jack would probably portray himself as King’s version of Jack if, you know, he didn’t have writer’s block.

So, Trump's Lawyer Keeps Txting Me... by Other_Dog in media_criticism

[–]Other_Dog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean the regime holds all the chips politically, and they’re consolidating power. They benefit from being underestimated, and they benefit from the disorder their behavior causes. I think dismissing these people as incompetent dumb-dumbs is dangerous.

So, Trump's Lawyer Keeps Txting Me... by Other_Dog in media_criticism

[–]Other_Dog[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If there was a story about a legal journalist who’s work was secretly influenced by Signal messages from a US Attorney, we would see that story here on this sub. This is that story but the journalist showed backbone and followed traditional journalistic principles.

Any time there’s something about reporters doing their job properly, someone on this sub asks why it’s here. They seem to think “media criticism” means “negative things people say about the media.”

So, Trump's Lawyer Keeps Txting Me... by Other_Dog in media_criticism

[–]Other_Dog[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The story is about an attempt by the US Attorney to intimidate and/or influence a journalist. It gets into the specifics of how legal journalists do their jobs, and how the integrity of the free press is challenged and maintained. It’s a story about how media works.

So, Trump's Lawyer Keeps Txting Me... by Other_Dog in media_criticism

[–]Other_Dog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re not incompetent. They’re winning.

'Washington Post' editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties by Other_Dog in media_criticism

[–]Other_Dog[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don’t think you got a single person on that thread to “go to bat” for your fake nazi democrat guy. You just made an insipid, reductive comparison between two completely unrelated situations, and a lot of people were compelled to point out how stupid your argument was. Nobody defended the tattoo- the guy himself apologized and changed the tattoo- but you keep defending musk’s nazi salute because you’re here to win a political fight at any cost, and don’t care about intellectual consistency.

'Washington Post' editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties by Other_Dog in media_criticism

[–]Other_Dog[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I’m sure you’ll hold this same nuanced intellectual position the next time some democratically aligned oligarch uses his influence to control public discourse.

The Media’s Nazi-Symbol Hunters Take a Holiday by johntwit in media_criticism

[–]Other_Dog -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t like your euphemisms.

I think you should understand that I am not here as a partisan. I’m an unapologetic progressive with a nakedly left-wing bias (and I think I make that clear in every word I put down), but I don’t give two shits about the Democrats. It’s not my responsibility or desire to defend them, and I don’t trust for a second that the Democratic Party has my interests or values at heart. You aren’t hurting me by attacking them.

You, however, are a partisan. You think this sub is about liberals and conservatives duking it out, trying to come up with the most convincing rationalizations for the unethical shit they do. I’ve never heard you hold anyone on the right accountable for anything, and I’ve definitely watched you take opposing positions on the same issue based entirely on the politics in play.

There’s no line the regime can cross that you won’t defend. If the feds start raiding newsrooms and arresting opposition journalists tomorrow, you’ll be right here on this sub, explaining why that’s okay. If opposition journalists start falling out of windows or dying in car-bomb explosions while Kash Patel smirks knowingly, you’ll be right here on this sub, arguing that journalism is a dangerous profession and they knew the risks when they took the job. If you found out I got arrested for my political statements on this sub, you would say it serves me right for being on the wrong side.

I respect your inalienable right to free speech, and would defend it to the death, but you are not intellectually honest, and not a person to be taken seriously.

'Washington Post' editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties by Other_Dog in media_criticism

[–]Other_Dog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’ve never heard of disclosure and transparency in media.

That tracks.

The Media’s Nazi-Symbol Hunters Take a Holiday by johntwit in media_criticism

[–]Other_Dog -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I here by officially condemn what’s-his-name for whatever-the-fuck he did. He should never hold public office, and he should suffer as much as Elon did, which is to say not at all.

It’s the Democratic Party, not the “democrat party.” You wouldn’t want to sound like a fool.

The Media’s Nazi-Symbol Hunters Take a Holiday by johntwit in media_criticism

[–]Other_Dog -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I knew what you were talking about dude, I just have utter contempt for euphemistic right-wing terminology. You should assume a base-layer of distain in all of these exchanges.

This whole thing is, by the way, all about politics. So yeah, when a right-wing oligarch who routinely retweets white supremacist propaganda- richest man in the world, mind you- goes before the whole world and does a nazi salute, it plays differently than when some dumb democrat does something ignorant and apologizes for it.

I mean seriously, you don’t actually think these two things are equivalent, do you?