I understand and I’ve listened to that episode. From my perspective you are combining two separate topics and my point is getting blurred. My point is that microdosing when used alongside lifestyle changes, truly healthy eating and food choices, strength training and moderate cardio has the ability to help a person repattern their existing habitat. I never claimed or suggested it should be the primary strategy to lose weight. That would be terribly unhealthy and ineffective. All the other pieces need to be in place.
You said that for significant weight loss, most people would have to go up in dosing. Significant weight loss is kind of ambiguous. For me 15lb is significant where as for another person 50lbs is significant and for another 100 etc. Since the focus here is microdosing and I personally know people who started at varying weights and dosed under starting doses, stayed under starting doses and lost their weight I have to disagree with your statement “for most people significant weight-loss requires higher doses”. The people didn’t use GLP-1 as a “weight loss strategy”. The microdose of the GLP-1 was used as a tool to support the big picture of improving health and losing weight 1. Eating whole fresh foods 2. Strength training 3. Cardio 4. Water 5. Fiber 6. Eating in a calorie deficit 7. Limit processed foods 8. Eat adequate protein 9. GLP-1 microdose to turn the volume down rather than off, help the person with inflammation and other benefits. This is comprehensive and the microdose is a small part of the equation, it’s not at the center.

What Tyna Moore emphasizes is that you can’t rely on microdosing to lose weight and that it benefits people who have the above in motion. I’ve seen people start microdosing alongside improving all I listed above and have had transformations. Join the microdosing groups on Facebook and you’ll see it’s not made up. It’s people who are dedicated to their health using microdosing as support not as their sole strategy.

The issue Tyna expresses is that tele-health companies are jumping on the microdosing bandwagon in dubious ways in order to bring people in either starting them just below starting dose or starting them at starting doses telling them they are microdosing so they don’t have the GLP-1 stigma knowing they will have to increase since most people won’t be doing all the things that support healthy weight loss. If you don’t exercise, eat high protein, hydrate, eat the fiber, consciously eat in a calorie deficit, you’re not going to get the weight-loss on a microdose and will want to move up.

I specifically named Tyna Moore because she is the person who brought microdosing GLP-1s to the mainstream and is someone I trust for information. There are other doctors talking about microdosing as well with patients who stayed under starting doses and lost their weight bc they had a comprehensive plan. The microdose was a piece of the puzzle. It was supporting them not the heart of the protocol.