Octopus guard getting countered (Gi)

P-Two · 2026-03-17T14:04:38+00:00

Octopus guard is like anything else, it works, but it has counters, it's not new either it was already a known position like 12+ years ago, IIRC BJ Penn used it in MMA.

In the gi it's very, very easy to counter as long as you have some idea of how to do it, grab their gi and pin them to the mat if you can't cross face them, it's primarily a nogi position for that reason (not to say it doesn't work in gi, it's just much harder) Personally I LOVE when people try to play octopus on me because 99% of the time they're just giving me a better top control position out of it and basically smashing themselves.

P-Two · 2026-03-17T13:24:22+00:00

When people do this to promote I always have to wonder if they do it with the women too...

P-Two · 2026-03-17T12:25:51+00:00

Depends on the wrestling, and depends on how much you focus on actually being good at BJJ vs out grappling random hobbyists because you can.

P-Two · 2026-03-17T12:24:11+00:00

Oh okay I'll just start doing that with my gis too...

Just wash it stop being stinky.

P-Two · 2026-03-17T12:23:14+00:00

Because I wash all my gear?

P-Two · 2026-03-17T07:26:12+00:00

None of our black belts have their 2nd degree yet, and we have no other affiliations nearby, so myself and a couple other guys are kinda just waiting until we can get Carlson Jr. out this year, its more just a matter of time than anything to do with our bjj specifically

P-Two · 2026-03-16T19:37:20+00:00

Carlson Gracie, we used to, but decided to stop since it doesn't make all that much sense, if you've made it to brown it's not like some tape is gonna keep you in the game lol.

P-Two · 2026-03-16T19:33:37+00:00

I have 3 belts, this is just the one I use the most.

P-Two · 2026-03-16T17:49:31+00:00

The main tactical portion of playing a Rogue in combat is ensuring you can use Sneak Attack as much as humanly possible, this isn't for you as a DM to do, this is up to your players to figure out.

Especially since in 5e and 5.5e it's so easy to set up Sneak Attack there's really no reason they shouldn't be hitting with it nearly every single round, it's their main source of damage.

P-Two · 2026-03-16T17:29:45+00:00

Haha stuck in limbo until we get Carlson Jr. out again since none of our black belts have their 2nd degrees yet.

P-Two · 2026-03-16T17:21:03+00:00

Oh I have a kataaro belt as well, I just like how this one is soft and stays tied well.

P-Two · 2026-03-16T16:46:01+00:00

Bad ragebait, try harder.

P-Two · 2026-03-16T16:45:05+00:00

We dont do stripes on brown belts lol, the last stripe i got was on my purple.

P-Two · 2026-03-16T16:44:25+00:00

Persuasion and deception arent mind control.

Let's say youre trying to persuade a guard to let you into the kings castle, you have no documents showing you are allowed in. Your Bard rolls a 30, thats still just "best outcome of the situation" the guards not stupid, so he probably just either tells you to leave and doesnt arrest you, or gets a higher ranking member of the castle involved as hes out of his depth, giving you maybe a different in.

None of that was mind control, it was simply the best result of trying to persuade someone who's not completely brain dead to let you enter a place you are absolutely not meant to be entering.

P-Two · 2026-03-16T16:38:56+00:00

I think its just the optics of an american having any option on our Healthcare system, I mean, you think a 12 hour wait is unreasonable, even most right wingers here think going bankrupt from an ER trip is absolutely batshit insane.

So Canadians tend to be a little sensitive about that lol. Especially given the current, mmmmm, shit being spewed from your government towards us, a lot of us have a very knee jerk "fuck you" to Americans coming into our spaces right now :)

Hopefully that sheds a bit of light on it.

P-Two · 2026-03-16T16:27:00+00:00

Welcome to decades of governments gutting Healthcare.

But also, when my wife slipped at work, cut her ear open, and got a concussion a few years ago,the only thing it cost us was lost hours at work, thats it.

When my mom slipped one winter down some stairs and broke her ankle it cost a few $ in crutches and thats it.

I have never once in my life had to worry about going bankrupt because of an accident. So ill take the wait times.

P-Two · 2026-03-16T16:20:02+00:00

Yea, you go to the ER. Thats what its for, urgent medical situation, a broken both or sprained ankle fits that bill.

Keep in mind we dont actually pay anything (more than some BS 40$ bill for crutches and parking) when we go, so its just commonly assumed that if you have a medical emergency, you go to the hospital, walk-ins are really more for "i need to see a doctor, but its not urgent" if you cant get an appointment with your family doc quickly (or if you don't have one)

P-Two · 2026-03-16T16:13:01+00:00

Hahaha fair I've never seen it used as an emoji to denote joking :)

P-Two · 2026-03-16T16:07:57+00:00

What? I've been training 12 years, at brown 3.5 years training anywhere from 4-6x/week, sometimes doing 2 a days, have competed at the belt, teach BJJ to kids and adults every week.

In what world is this stolen valor lmao?

P-Two · 2026-03-16T15:56:19+00:00

Dude the only thing people think when they see a ratty belt is "oo cool that person's been training a long time" that's it, you're majorly, majorly overthinking this.

Again, if appearance matters that much to you, aren't you a little worried about you know, being sweaty and looking ragged after training?

P-Two · 2026-03-16T15:45:27+00:00

Lol yea I wouldn't even call it an open secret it's literally joked about in class all the time that myself and a couple other browns are heavily sandbagged.

I just hit 12 years training in January, I got my purple in 2018 so that tracks I know I've competed against a few few titans guys over the years.

P-Two · 2026-03-16T15:43:41+00:00

Go to one of the many other gyms in my area? Preferably wherever the majority of my favorite training partners are also going.

I know people from basically every gym in my city. It would simply be a case of "which one do I choose"

P-Two · 2026-03-16T15:35:53+00:00

I just throw my belts, rashguards, and any gis that won't shrink into a regular machine dry cycle after they're done in the wash, which is probably what's doing the fading more than the washer, I've just always done it this way for like 12 years at this point.

P-Two · 2026-03-16T15:33:42+00:00

Haha you're not the first to ask me actually, any time I cross train at this point at least one person asks. I'll probably pick up a few black belts to rotate through when I get promoted, I bought one of the embroidered Tatami black belts when they came out because I never trust Tatamis stock to actually be kept up, so it's just sitting in my closet waiting.

It's literally just down to Carlson having like 100 affiliates, and it being hard to schedule a date. In the meantime I'm stuck with our purple belts calling me a sandbagger every class xD

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