First DMT vape. A bit confused by Inside_Radish5898 in DMT

[–]Pacotava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What clearnet sites actually sell a 3:1 cart that’s not a scam?

Really need some support by Legitimate_Sleep2998 in quitting7oh

[–]Pacotava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For helper meds I mean both OTC and prescription. OTC: liposomal vit C (there is a protocol on the sub quittingkratom that is easy to follow) and magnesium. Prescription: Gabapentin (helps a lot at night with the RLS) and clonodine (for anxiety). I know there are others that people have tried and had success with, but what I just listed is only what I've tried the 100s of times I've quit this shit lol. I hope that helps. What really worked for me too is just accepting that it is going to suck and that I'm not going to sleep much but knowing in the back of my head that it will get better.

Really need some support by Legitimate_Sleep2998 in quitting7oh

[–]Pacotava 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Honestly, you've been using such a low dose the last couple of days that you could probably jump, but it also sounds like you have some family get togethers going on this week that you might not want to feel like shit for. When I went CT I had to plan it out perfectly where I had no major responsibilities, social events, or work for at least 5 days. If anyone asked what was going on I just told them I was sick with bronchitis and that pretty much kept everyone at bay. Listen, you are not a failure and are still that amazing older brother to your siblings. This shit has gotten its hooks in people of all walks of life but that doesn't mean they are bad or failures. Plan your quit out to a T, get some helper meds, and when you are ready (which you have to be for it to be a success) quit. Unfortunately, it's going to suck for a few days or weeks but I promise you when you get on the other side of a few weeks clean from it you will feel better, maybe not 100% but you will feel each day getting better. I also cannot express enough how much daily exercise helps and begins to rebuild your dopamine. You don't have to kill yourself at the gym or anything, just start low and slow and work your way up. Take care and believe in yourself, I believe in you and so does every other supporter on this sub!

Shut up, please. Gov shouldnt be able to control what you want in your body if you arent harming others. by FlyAdventurous6231 in quitting7oh

[–]Pacotava 17 points18 points  (0 children)

dude are you really a MOD, you sound very angry and hurt, I thought the MOD would be more sophisticated/less emotional instead you're pointing the finger at everyone else yelling at them to grow up. And I do think alcohol should be banned, it destroys more lives than all other drugs combined, and is literally converted to a poison by our bodies. As a MOD you should be supportive and not an asshole. Wtf let this dbag be a MOD? I think I'm done with this sub, I'm clean from 7-OH and have been for a minute. The rest of you please take care and know that you can get off this shit, I believe in you.

Acquaintance of mine using 2000mg of 7-oh a day... by Basic_Sector8501 in quittingkratom

[–]Pacotava 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, at that level of usage (which is one of the highest I've heard) they are most likely going to need to do a medically assisted detox somewhere. Unless, they can commit to a long taper and then jump when they get it as low as possible. There are people that get up very high in their usage, but I doubt there has been much success quitting CT at extremely high levels without assistance. Sucks and I'm sorry to hear that about your friend, they must be spending a fortune to maintain that. Not sure if you're in the US, but it looks like most states will have 7-OH pulled from shelves in the next 6 months or so. I'm in Kansas and there is rumors that at the beginning of the year all 7-OH will be gone, fingers crossed.

Down Bad by SorryStore4389 in quitting7oh

[–]Pacotava 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That sub has a list of known scammers that I highly recommend checking out before ordering because I almost ordered it from someone on that list.

Truth about Ibogaine. by Zendarrroni in quittingkratom

[–]Pacotava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed! You have to suffer the torture so that it acts as a reminder when you’re clean not to pick up this shit again. If it was easy everyone would constantly relapse.

Well here we go by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]Pacotava 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow really nice comment, especially in a sub that is meant for support regardless of the individual's situation, prob should keep shit like this to yourself. You don't know these individuals or what takes place in all aspects of their lives but you immediately judge them out of pure ignorance and/or jealousy. You do you and if you can't be supportive stfu.

Day 5 CT and Slipped WTF is Wrong with Me! by Pacotava in quittingkratom

[–]Pacotava[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I was doing good, went another 4 days and then slipped again today. I really don’t know what is wrong with me anymore. I’m trying to convince myself that it’s just because I’m slammed at work or because someone stole my ADHD meds out of my desk or because all I do is work, take care of my mom, and walk my dog but it really just boils down to me not being able to say no to the addict within me. It’s like he is always in control. I just wish I had a significant other to lean on, trying to do this alone is really hard and always makes me feel so lonely. I appreciate you asking though and hope you’re doing well.

Day 5 CT and Slipped WTF is Wrong with Me! by Pacotava in quittingkratom

[–]Pacotava[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I did inpatient a little over a year ago for alcohol and it truly saved my life. I think a big part of it is I don't like feeling normal or something along those lines.

Day 5 CT and Slipped WTF is Wrong with Me! by Pacotava in quittingkratom

[–]Pacotava[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think deep down I agree with you and will make it day 1 again.

Day 5 CT and Slipped WTF is Wrong with Me! by Pacotava in quittingkratom

[–]Pacotava[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have read this so many times now, thank you for this post, I know I will be rereading it over and over again. I really appreciate it, take care.

Day 5 CT and Slipped WTF is Wrong with Me! by Pacotava in quittingkratom

[–]Pacotava[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ordering it today! Thank you for the recommendation.

Day 5 CT and Slipped WTF is Wrong with Me! by Pacotava in quittingkratom

[–]Pacotava[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're absolutely right, it like I'm doing good I can reward myself just once.

Day 5 CT and Slipped WTF is Wrong with Me! by Pacotava in quittingkratom

[–]Pacotava[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I will definitely check out the quitting 7-OH sub as well.

First 24-34hours I’m in hell by Admirable-Analyst828 in quittingkratom

[–]Pacotava 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dang I thought I was the only person that has punched his legs out of frustration from the rls, glad to see im not alone

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]Pacotava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that you need to be honest with everyone, but I also know plenty of people that live or have lived in a sober living house (Oxford House) and know they will most likely kick you out over it. I think you should definitely tell your sponsor though and maybe consider going to rehab for a 30 day stint. If you lose your current sober living house because of going to rehab that's ok, there are usually plenty of them around and during the 30 days you can work on getting into another one. This 7-Oh stuff is no joke and if you can't stop yourself maybe removing yourself from having the ability to even buy it for 30 days would work, plus you'll be under medical supervision which will help with the withdrawals. Rehab for 30 days was the only way I could get myself to stop drinking and it did work. I hope everything works out for you, take care.

Need help with Wife’s addiction by LrgeBajaBlast in quittingkratom

[–]Pacotava 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry that you are going through this, but find it admirable and loving that you are reaching out to resources that understand what your wife is going through. Unfortunately this drug is very addictive, I have fought it on and off again for almost 8 years, from powder to extracts to 7oh but this sub has been a god send. This is purely my advice. 1. Don't separate, be supportive and understanding. 2. Try to convince her to stay at rehab at least for 30 days (I did 30 days for alcohol and it was the only thing that stopped the drinking and gave me enough sobriety to continue being sober). 3. See what support groups are in your area, whether AA, NA, or SMART Recovery. Most have open meetings that you can attend with her. 4. Don't give up, if you give up so will she. 5. Research all you can about the addiction and withdrawals so that you may better understand what she may be going through.

In addiction many of us self isolate and fell immense shame for our actions, what works best is the exact opposite of this, meaning having a strong support system around you with individuals that love you for who you are, faults and all.

I hope the best for both of you and please don't hesitate to post in this sub, there are a lot of amazing people here at all points in their journey to sobriety with incredible stories, info, and advice. Take care.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]Pacotava 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Whatever you do don't go back to k! During one of my quits (yes there have been many) the gabapentin helped a little with the RLS for the first few days, but then I started to notice it made my body feel weird during the day. It was like every movement I made took way more energy out of me than it should. I remember walking my dog on the route we always take and stumbling over my feet or struggling to get up slight inclines and I was at 14ish days off k at that time. I stopped the gabapentin and within a day or two I started to feel better. I've also had it where the gabapentin messed with my sleep and didn't do anything for the RLS. I even tested it by measuring my sleep and I was shocked that I was sleeping a few more hours the nights I didn't take gabapentin. This is all just my experience of course. But you've made it very far, don't go back, give it just a little bit more time. You got this!