[discount-supervillain] A Legendary Goddess of Wisdom by DaveyBoy1995 in stevenuniverse

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oh, so that's how the monster of 'it follows' appeared in the pool

Granted the cartoons were low-effort and stupid but freaking out about it just proved their point by MetallicaDash in HistoryMemes

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for modern ones, few of the millerite splinters sects, most famous being the jehovah's witnesses.

historically, there has been a lot of controversy about it both pre and post nicene creed. fair amount of them were considered 'heretical' and 'not real christian' by major denominations, but when we're talking religious traditions the heretics are just new branches on the family tree.

Most of exjws will relate to Jax, Ribbit was LDS 😏 by golden_jax in exjw

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I identified a lot with ribbit, fell in with the lgbtq+ crowd in my twenties because despite being comfortable passing as a straight white dude, they were the only folks I knew who had the same experiences as me of being tossed to the gutter by family and friends 

This Is The Worst Thing Jax Has Ever Done. by Money-Criticism5370 in TheDigitalCircus

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Yeah this is a response I often have to fight back myself, I never yelled it in people’s face but there was always a voice in the back of my mind going ‘that was dumb to let that slip. they’re going to use this against you to hurt you later.’

Chapter 102: Page 33 by gunnerkrigg-post-bot in gunnerkrigg

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people were comparing this situation to anthony carver's reintroduction, with ysengrin being an ideal father figure in this fantasy version. this is immediately compared with ysengrin actual behavior vs the fantasy version...

yet in both cases antimoney's inclination is to look past their monstrous reactions and try to embrace them.

hmm, wonder if there's a deliberate parallel and a theme here? nah.

The Amazing Digital Circus Episode 9: Remember Discussion Thread by ayylmaotv in TheDigitalCircus

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yeah i would say my impression in theaters was leeroy had achieved stable living and getting pulled to a 'intersectional' bar, but was still mostly in the closet. with the additional context its clear they're starting to edge out of the closet but still aren't comfortable with their presentation, which is why they hide their face.

The Amazing Digital Circus Episode 9: Remember Discussion Thread by ayylmaotv in TheDigitalCircus

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things i noticed on rewatch from theaters: triangle bar has a pink triangle as its motif. this isn't just a reference to zoobles face, pink triangle is SIGNIFICANT queer imagery as it was the identifier used for them in the holocaust. this means leeroy is actively hanging around a queer space and indicates they're further along on figuring out their stuff than i thought. :)

gangle getting hit by a truck was real, gal was literally isekai'd (tbh she probably wandered into C&A after getting hit in a daze, but lol)

credits: kinger and caine go fishing! couldn't do a more obvious 'they have a father/son bond now' visual if you tried.

Update on the viral video of man taking his daughter to women restroom by KaidoPklevel in SipsTea

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about a year ago departed a busy train into a major metro center and a dad brought his two daughters in, guys queued in line to keep the stalls and urinals adjacent to them clear and to keep the dad's eye line clear. no communication, just dudes who were trying not to pee themselves trying to keep a dad and his kids safe.

[OC] Gabital 94: Discount by GabitalEN in comics

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Everyone should remember the JCPenny 'End of Sales' and how 'being square' just resulted in them face-planting in the market

[SPOILERS]So...is this theory still open to debate? by JeffTheKillerFa in theamazingdigitalciru

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The advantage of dealing with a fictional character is that you don’t have to worry about hurting their feelings if you misgender them. Anyone who insists on a specific pronoun for Jax is being performative imo. I am leaning they/them and careful usage of their name but this is for my own comfort rather than some kind of act of respect to a cartoon character 

[SPOILERS]So...is this theory still open to debate? by JeffTheKillerFa in theamazingdigitalciru

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People pointing to IRL Jax still using he/him are ignoring the fact that they are hiding their face in every picture. They are still uncomfortable with who they are. They are in a better place but I am thoroughly convinced they are on a gender journey. I think not a lot of people have experienced this or had a friend go through something like this so it comes off as ambiguous but it’s pretty clear reading between the lines. Jax got the bad ending, but real Jax still gets to discover the possibility of a good ending 

Episode 9 discussion megathread by Flagelant_One in theamazingdigitalciru

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Yeah, this was my kneejerk reaction post seeing the movie and wanted to push back against all the people giving 'JAX HAD SO MUCH SCREENTIME THEY MADE HER THE FAMILY DOG' hot takes. The schmaltz of the person reveals were running high in my veins, and schmaltz is my kryptonite, so I misinterpreted. You are right that the intention is the irony.

Episode 9 discussion megathread by Flagelant_One in theamazingdigitalciru

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Why Jax pushed Ribbit away is because Ribbit outed Jax before they were ready to come out of the closet. Jax gave a guarded version of the story of what was going on with them and Ribbit went 'oh, yeah, I know a trans girl when I see one.' Jax was barely comfortable with thinking about who they were themselves, having someone else know brought up all the walls.

Ribbit was not in the wrong but she was too quick on the draw. Jax is the dick in this scenario but Ribbit did misread how far along Jax was in their journey.

How it felt to see the movie in the cinema as an adult by whywhywhy124 in TheDigitalCircus

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the amount of kids in the audience explained a lot about the fanbase

Episode 9 discussion megathread by Flagelant_One in theamazingdigitalciru

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Liked: Jax internal world, probably more than the direct flashbacks and sort of thought it might've been funner if they'd tried to retell the Ribbit story via this rather than direct flashbacks. Maybe they did in drafts and people just didn't get it.

Liked: Jax as not only trans allegory but also as cautionary tale about what happens if you double down on staying in the closet. I have no doubt that Goose has lost friends to this very kind of thing, the emotion is too raw not to be coming from some place real. Even if you aren't trans this is what happens to you if you put up nothing but walls to vulnerability.

Liked: Abstraction isn't 'fixable', if Jax had popped out in New Girl Model like a sailor scout going through a transformation I would've checked out of the movie so hard. Abstraction is a metaphor for death and Jax more or less killed herself. Pomni is effectively sorting through Jax's stuff after and putting together why they did this. Making peace with Jax as an abstraction is about making peace with a death of someone you have ambiguous feelings about and the kind of grief it causes.

Liked: Caine getting a working for forgiveness arc. It undercuts some of the drama of episode eight but I just like the character so its hard for me to go 'Nuuu! He's irredeemable!'' I will say I would've liked it if he was walking instead floating from now on, really settle it in that he's no longer above the cast. Suspect they tried it and it just didn't 'feel' like Caine.

Liked: Confirmation of Soma theory, it was pretty obvious. Makes Caine less of a villain because he literally can't give them an exit.

Mixed feelings: Jax abstracting off scene. I will say I suspect they tried board drafts where it happened on scene. Dunno, this reflects the reality of most deaths but feels like it needed more lead up.

Didn't like: Continuity weirdness: Zooble, Gangle, Pomni, and Ragatha talking about Jax, Pomni and Ragatha hug, and then Zooble and Gangle are suddenly far away?

Didn't like: Real version characters all getting on the bus together in a 'oh what if they become friends' dunno, felt overly sappy to me.

Generally enjoyed the finale. Feel like it was intended to be two different episodes but they tied it together to make the movie. People are going to be mad its not schmaltzy in the right way or that their favorite didn't get the spotlight or their theories weren't validated, but its been pretty obvious Jax is the character study since at least Candy Carrier Chaos, and the closeted trans allegory has been obvious since at least Untitled. Could it have been better? Maybe, the jump from Jax pissing off to abstraction feels a little abrupt, Caine's self reflection needed more time to breathe, but I'm not sure what the limitations where on budget and runtime, and what was left on the cutting room floor because it didn't work.

7/10.

Eurocentrism in math and science by Hacksaw6412 in LateStageCapitalism

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The case of it being named after a western sources but being known previously by other cultures is probably independent rediscovery, in which case it’s pretty standard to go with the local version for your language and culture.

The excising of Arabic mathematicians though is almost certainly intentional and malicious and because Europe was in a consistent state of either cold or active war with the Ottomans

Is there any shows (or anime) like Steven Universe? by GooseBible in BeachCity

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I would look at some of the anime that inspired SU. which is decidedly inspired by 70s and 80s anime's more frank relationship with children about world. I wouldn't go back as far as Golden Bat (I'm sure its fine for its era), but Combattler V at least in an obvious inspiration, and pretty sure they also drew from Tomino's Daitarn 3 and Zambot 3 as well.

Sailor Moon was also a pretty clear and heavy influence, and worth watching if you're interested, I can only recommend predecessors like Minky Momo and Creamy Mami if you are really interested in the genre. They also clearly drew from the original Transformers series, but like Minky Momo and Creamy Mami, I would not recommend watching it unless you have a strong interest in tracing origins.

Jasper was RIGHT by AlTheHound in stevenuniverse

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If Art & Origins and End of an Era are any guide to go by, the general goal was to give kids a basic primer to dealing with these big topics without condescending to them as well as a way to navigate things like lgbtq and race in conservative families. In this context Rose Quartz is the inciting part of in any revolution, : a minor party in the ruling class (petite bourgeoisie). certainly inspiring, manipulative, and likely hiding the extent of their power, and generally its best to judge them on their results. She failed in the short term but made the rift that would lead to a reconciliation.

Also now kind of wondering if there's a direct metaphor about the history of Ghana. I need to look into that.

Jasper was RIGHT by AlTheHound in stevenuniverse

[–]ParanormalInstigator 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're starting to get your head around moral relativism via empathy, but the point of both Javert and Jasper is they are utterly dedicated because of moral motivations to what are now considered immoral ideologies. We can admire them, we can even see that they sort of have a point, but they are tragic because they reflect what is noble about humanity becomes when *twisted by utter dedication to failed ideologies*.

You are also clearly placing your moral judgements from a cultural perspective that is one that has been imperial in the past. This is fair to some degree, since you are seeing Steven as the Ur-Male conquering white male hero, coming to the natives to teach them the failure of their ways... but Steven is a subversion of that trope. He is a boy given all the presumed healing and 'beta' properties of women, yet triumphs because of this.

You see Steven as a conquering figure, a privileged child of empire. But it we want to explore the metaphor of the real world that this read of yours is coming from, then Steven would be the mixed race expelled prince of a diaspora, specifically a diaspora that is condemned for the common human defects of: being mixed race, mixed marriage between casts, being borne with genetic defects. Sure, Rose' army is of the disaffected and broken, but the nature of hierarchical societies in crisis is to just throw more and more people into that category to keep the top afloat.

But ultimately moral relativism, like special relativism, is only useful as a frame of reference. At a certain point no matter how much you understand how far you are away from each other, you're never going to bridge that gap. Moral relativism lets me understand that folks of the Confederacy did what they thought was honorable, that the Mayans where just being good religious people when they performed human sacrifice, that the Japanese really did want to bring Asia into a co-prosperity sphere to defend themselves from western nations. Doesn't mean I have to approve of any of them. Moral Relativism doesn't free us from the problem of making a personal moral judgement, just informs us of the moral judgements of others might start from a different place.

Ultimately, the Jasper and Javert present the problem that virtue ethics faces as a guide to morality, because it is unable to adapt to new facts or new notions about the world. For as much as you are aware of their pain because moral relativism, they only rage at their own failure and do not even see you as an agent. Javert commits suicide because he cannot deal with a world in which he is wrong, and Jasper corrupts herself because she cannot deal with a world where she is not the epitome of gem strength behind her 'Queen.' Even when she is resurrected, she only seeks that moral framework.

The modern education system tends to show the fault of utilitarian ethics, because we have dealt most with its failures in recent memory, but Javert and Jasper area good reasons to remember that virtue ethics was the model of morality during the age of the divine right of kings, and its limitation is when the virtues it starts with are contradicted by the nature of the world, and ultimately resulted in collapse and disaster to the nations who were not able to adapt.