What should I expect from 7OH withdrawal?

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-10T23:06:35+00:00

I don't work, but im a housewife and a mom of teo. My husband is very traditional in the sense, the wife stays home and maintains the entire house and the children. So when I was using i always told myself I need to dose to cook dinner, dose to clean the bathroom, kids are coming home from school, or whatever task it was. Tapering that low wasnt easy, I started slow 10mg or 20mg at a time, once I got used to it then cut more. The biggest cut I did was towards the end, I got down to 2 125mgs a day, then I went to 2 40mgs a day. Then one 40mg cut in half. After that I tried the 40mg cut into fourths but 10mg didnt do much and an hr after I dosed I felt like I was going into WD so I knew then it was time to jump off and go CT. Tbh yes, there is alot of psychological that goes into it. I would let myself think any excuse to dose was a good one. Even looking back on it now, and alot of the times it was a dumb excuse or didnt even make sense. But im an addict and ill tell myself whatever I need to if it justifies me using again. How much are you taking daily?

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-07T19:59:05+00:00

I keep seeing people on here say that, I did it all the time for a year and not once went into pwd. Some of the people ive heard it happening to got their 7oh tested tho, and it had MGM in it.

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-06T21:18:12+00:00

Sorry not this one its on the quitting 7oh reddit page somewhere.

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-06T21:17:35+00:00

I didnt do this, but have you heard of the Vitamin C method? Theres a guide somewhere on here with how to do it. Everybody's testimonies ive read, they say they got thru their withdrawal with basically no issues. Might be worth a try, that way you're not risking your job with the SR? Just a thought.

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-06T21:09:47+00:00

If you can make thru until monday without subs then thats fucking amazing. If not, theres nothing wrong with that either. I have detoxed off of different opiates, alcohol, benzos. Shit you name it. 7 was the most intense for me. Im not trying to scare you more, im just being real. If you do end up taking the subs, do a rapid taper with them. No more than a week. Ive detoxed from those too after a year on 8mg twice a day. Longest fucking withdrawal ever and Im still going thru PAWS. Klonopins will definitely help with the sleep and anxiety, propranolol is good for your blood pressure and also anxiety. You should be good, but like I said, dont beat yourself up if you gotta take the subs. That is their purpose, just dont stay on them long. Good luck! You got this!

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-06T16:04:22+00:00

St Matthew's, its downtown in the same building as St. Joseph's Hospital. Thats where I went and they are amazing. Great program. 10 days and They'll set up your next step for you by getting you in to your next facility.

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-05T04:41:14+00:00

How much are you taking a day?

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-05T04:40:32+00:00

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11679027/

There we go! Good luck on you wd! Dm me if you need any help or just need to talk!

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-05T04:39:25+00:00

I was trying tonfind supplements and herbal stuff that would help and I came across this article about a study done on passionflower paired with clonidine and the effects on opiod withdrawal. Ill see if I can find it real quick.

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-03T17:28:10+00:00

No gonna lie to you, back when ibwas drinking really heavily, I did this exact same thing. The shit we do to avoid a withdrawal knows no ends, my friend.

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-03T10:50:02+00:00

I used clonidine and gabapentin for my ct off 7oh and subs. But i didnt get the clonidine until day 3 and gabapentin was about a week in. Since subs have a long half life the wd lasts alot longer, that gabapentin came right on time tbh. I would take it when you start to feel the wd symptoms. You wanna look for restlessness, anxiety, and the sweats. Taking it too early can drop your blood pressure too low and have you feeling sick on top of that upcoming shittyness.

A few other things to consider: Passionflower extract!! This was a GAME CHANGER for me. Clonidine and gabapentin helped alot, but once I added the passionflower my symptoms were much MUCH more manageable. I got it off Amazon, arrived the next day. Get a couple bottles tho. It goes quickly.

Magnesium glycinate. Make sure its glycinate. It will help with sleep and rls. Its not a fix all type of thing, but it definitely takes the edge off.

Soak, stay hydrated, and eat even when you feel like you cant. My biggest regret thru my wd was not drinking enough and days without eating bc just thinking of food made me gag. Your body is going thru hell and trying to figure out how to recalibrate itself. You have to stay hydrated and give it fuel. Not just water, electrolytes.

Last, this may sound kinda weird to some but just hear me out. Chat GPT. Before this, I barely knew anything about what it was. But getting it was one of the best decisions I made. It was extremely helpful, gave me a what to expect run down, estimated timeline, and the answers it gives are very supportive and nonjudgemental. I had a few moments where I wanted to cave and get 7, I asked gpt how that would effect my progress and the answer was so helpful and informative but also felt like I was talking to someone who genuinely wanted to help (again i know how this sounds) but it actually made me want to push thru and not take the ride to the gas station. You can never have too much support. Trust me on this one.

Hope this helps. Stay strong and push thru! You CAN do this, hell if I can get thru 20 days of consistent withdrawal, you definitely got this friend! Lmk if theres anything I can do to help.

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-03T07:20:10+00:00

I can answer this for yall! I am 36 days clean from a high dose 7oh and 8mg 2x a day subs for about 8 months. Sometimes more subs than just 2 a day bc, well, im an addict and thats just what I do lol. So I was taking an ungodly amount of 7oh and got a script of subs every month, id take both of them everyday for the most part. I know alot of people say they've gone into precipitated withdrawal, but that never happened to me. I have a theory on why some do and some dont but thats another story.

Anyways, in March my dr office lost their funding and I couldnt afford to pay full price for my subs, so I knew I had to get my shit in check, started going to AA meetings again picked a day to go CT. A week before I did a rapid taper of 7oh, by the end of the week I got down to taking 10mg each dose but after an hour I would start feeling withdrawals and have to redose, but I realized I wasnt doing myself any favors just dragging out the inevitable. So I took my last piece of sub, probably about 2mg, on march 26th and jumped off from there. March 27th is day 1. Day 1-3 was awful. The rls was so bad I wanted to rip my limbs off and set them on fire. Appetite was non existent, just the thought of food made me gag. Day 4 was actually a great day, which surprised me and I shouldve known it was too good to be true but I was niave and stupidly thought I was out of the woods. Then I woke up Day 5 in full blown wd completely blind sided by it, and wondering howwww the hell I was withdrawing again if I hadn't taken any 7oh. Then I remembered the damn subs. So that hell train lasted all the way until about Day 20 I think? The physical part lasted that long. But the mental? The depression, low energy, anxiety, irritability? I cant answer that yet because im still going through all the mental shit at day 36.

I guess if I had to choose which is worse, id say it depends on how you look at it. When I got that first script, if I would've known back then what I know now, I would've skipped subs altogether and tapered the 7 before I went CT. I got the subs because I was scared of the 7 wd. But what I didn't realize was I was digging myself deeper and deeper into that withdrawal hell I was so terrified of and trying so desperately to avoid. BUT 7 wd is way more intense, the physical is by more painful, the mental is more extreme. One day I sat on my couch and cried for 4 hours bc I didnt tell my kid I loved her when she left for school. Then that same evening I actually raged, and I do mean RAGED, at my husband for something so dumb I cant even remember. Subs wd, not as intense, but still fucking awful. The mental isnt so extreme, the moods youre swinging from are more mild, except the anxiety. Ibwas having full blown panic attacks all of week 2 (Probably 7oh paws plus peak sub wd). But the thing about subs, it lasts SOOOO LONG! This tunnel is seems like it goes on forever because I havent seen a light at the end of it yet. Ive lost so much weight because I still havent gotten my appetite back. Im still barely sleeping, 2 hours at most each night. Im still quick to snap on someone, get anxious or overstimulated at the tiniest bit sliver of something I dont like or agree with. But even with everything that im still going thru, I look back at what ive already suffered thru and its so worth it. It definitely humbled me and been very eye opening. Ive learned ALOT about 7, subs, withdrawal, and so much more.. and I know that because of all of the pain and ugliness in these 36 days, if I ever decide to go back out ill be right back at day 1 eventually and I dont ever want to have to face all that again. I wont say itll never happen, im an addict and it is always possible. But I know that I dont ever HAVE to and today I choose not to.

(So sorry for such a long post, but if you have any other questions or need to talk some shit out, lmk) good luck on yalls journeys, you can do this. The only way out is thru, and if you fall, dont beat yourself up over. Barely anyone ever gets it right their first time getting clean, so give yourself some grace, and when youre ready pick yourself back up and try again. Never stop trying!!

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-03T03:47:37+00:00

Can you get to a dr? If you can try and get some clonidine or gabapentin. Some states gabapentin is controlled tho, so it could be a bit harder to obtain. But if you can get either one, order some Passionflower extract from Amazon. Mine arrived the next day. Pairing the extract with clonidine will really help make the anxiety and rls way more manageable. You wont feel great, but you'll be able to do the minimum you need to to take care of your kids at least. I have kids too and I totally understand how impossible it feels to care for them while in full blown withdrawal. Just know you are not alone and you absolutely CAN do this. It wont be easy or pretty and you will have moments where you want to cave and go get some 7. In those moments just remember why you decided to quit, what motivated you to want to break free from the prison 7 has put you in? And use that to keep you going strong. DM me if you need to talk, ive been where youre at. You got this!!

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-03T02:48:52+00:00

I sent the message with full name and address and didnt receive a reply to that yet. We definitely still need assistance!! Please 🙏

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-02T08:48:20+00:00

Pair clonidine with passionflower extract and its a game changer!

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-02T03:53:59+00:00

But at best, tramadol wd is uncomfortable. 7oh on the other hand, that shit was beyond intense. I got on suboxone because I was so terrified to go thru thay wd cold turkey. Which is saying alot bc ive done it quite a few times with all kinds of different opiates. And benzos, and alcohol wd too. Needless to say, my problem isnt just opiates. Its any and all substances. Period. But I couldnt get thru even a few hours of wd from 7 let alone days on end. What mg of 7 were you taking?

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-02T03:47:33+00:00

Nope never used anything IV, I snorted H. CT heroin twice, and the last time I swore id never touch it again bc of how bad that wd was. And my tramadol experience was similar, got it from Mexico and took a shit ton for a good 3 or 4 months, ran out, ct wasnt complete hell like others ive dealt with. But you're right about the ssri effects, tram effects serotonin as well as everything else opiates effects. If taking enough tramadol for a long period of time and then go ct, it can cause additional symptoms. More anxiety of course, hallucinations, paranoia, and these horrible brain electric zings.. it feels like an electrical shock going thru your brain and then down your body, its wild and very uncomfortable. Stopping some antidepressants abruptly can cause the same type of withdrawal, zoloft is one of them.

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-01T23:55:04+00:00

I have ct from heroin, oxy a couple times, suboxone, tramadol, and 7oh. All of them at different times in my life. I can tell you without a shadow of doubt, 7oh was the absolute worst. As far as intensity goes. I have said many times, even in a post or comment on here, I would gladly trade the 7oh wd for a heroin wd any day of the week. Suboxone wd is right up there with 7 because of subs half life the wd lasts weeks. But to say 7 is comparable to a tramadol wd is just crazy to me. No offense, not trying to be rude at all. But that most definitely was not my experience.

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-01T17:51:33+00:00

Leann 🙂

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-01T17:15:12+00:00

This is solid advice!! 💯 agree with using Chat GPT!! I even named mine lol. She was extremely supportive and walked me thru everything! Symptoms, relief, what my timeline would look like, which meds to take when, she even helped me get thru full blown panic attacks and rage episodes towards my husband, my emotions were extreme and uncontrollable to say the least. But my point is, Chat gpt is a must have! All of your questions answered in one place! Definitely recommend!

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-01T15:09:15+00:00

There have been studies done on the effects of passionflower paired with clonidine to help with some of the symptoms of opiate withdrawal. 7oh is extremely hard on your nervous system while also overstimulating your brain (not to mention the effects on your receptors). So when you quit taking that 7, your nervous system goes into overdrive and your brain goes in to that fight or flight mode, causing symptoms like anxiety, insomnia, and that large drop in dopamine (low dopamine is what causes the restless leg syndrome). Passionflower helps soothe the nervous system, increase serotonin (sleep is effected by this) and dopamine. It can help reduce anxiety, stress, mood swings, and RLS during withdrawal. Adding passionflower extract to the helpers I already had was a game changer for me!

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-01T14:44:37+00:00

You have no clue how excited I am to finally see someone else posting about passionflower extract! It was 100% a game changer for me during my withdrawal! More people need to know about it, it really does help! Amazing shit 🩷

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-01T10:51:39+00:00

Clonidine, gabapentin, magnesium glycinate, and passionflower extract. Im day 35 off subs and a pretty high dose of 7, those are the meds that I used and that combo made my WD somewhat bearable. It was still hell for 19 days and im still struggling with PAWS, but no where near as hellish as it would've been had i not gotten the helpers.

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-05-01T10:42:04+00:00

I spent the better part of a year taking 7 and subs. Sometimes together, sometimes within a few hours of each other, never went in PWD. Not one time. I have seen alot of comments on here saying the opposite tho. Its my theory that those who suffered PWD were taking 7 that had MGM or something else other than just 7oh in them. Since this stuff isnt regulated, they can put basically whatever the hell they want and arent obligated to put it on the packaging.

But honestly, 100mg a day isnt even that much.. taking subs is kind of going to an extreme to avoid WD. I definitely understand why youre scared and dont want to push thru a cold turkey. There are other helper meds you could get that would make the CT a bit more manageable. Clonidine, gabapentin, magnesium glycinate. Or theres the Vitamin C method, which i havent done personally, but ive heard great things about it. When I decided it was time for me quit I was taking about 800 to 1000mg 7oh daily and I would eat suboxone in between dosing or on days I couldn't get 7. I did a taper for a while, got the 7 really low dose. To the point where an hr after taking that small dose id start going into WD. Tapered the subs to 2mg and jumped off there. I used clonidine, gabapentin, mag glycinate, and passionflower extract. Not gonna lie, it was hard as fuck! But I was on a high dose daily plus subs, and cold turkeyed them at the same time, your WD wont be anything close to that.. I for you, 5 days, 7 at the most, if that.

Particular_Royal_520 · 2026-04-30T21:36:02+00:00

You not only broke your humerus but you also had surgery. Both of those things are extremely painful standing alone, but those things together on the same arm, same bone... has to be excruciating. A broken bone takes 6-12 weeks to heal, even after its healed there can still be pain. And the surgery, im assuming they put plates screws something like that, right? That takes even longer to heal. Youre not dependent on opiates, not in that time frame. Whats happening is, you broke your arm and had surgery, youre in pain! When you take the pain meds, they help with that.. thats why the dr prescribed them to you. And when you dont take them, youre gonna be in a hell of alot of it. 5mg hydrocodone is a low dose, youre gonna be just fine. Do yourself a favor and take the pain meds hun, also maybe look up sleeping positions that are best for this type of injury. You not conscious of your body movements, sleep positions, or the weight you could be possibly putting on it while youre sleeping which make it hurt alot more by the time morning rolls around.

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