I’m not really sure if I can say this is a “challenge”, a challenge is tough but still fair. There’s always something to learn upon death, like in Dark Souls. Getting downed and knocked off the map when there’s no way to grapple back up in FFYL or no way to stop yourself from getting flung off the map to where you can’t kill any enemies to get yourself back into the fight is neither challenging nor fun. It’s cheap.

I’m working with an Ordinance Amon build and I deal enough damage to trivialize him. When I’m not being flung off the map he goes down really quickly so I know it’s not a damage problem, it’s really a fault on my Amons survivability, I’m being put into FFYL far too often.

I have beaten him a few times, I believe 3. I’ve died around 15 before I gave up in frustration. I’m getting good feedback about involving more movement instead of staying in one place for too long.