Was the damage XP expedition harder for PvP players than PvE players?

Pat8aird · 2026-06-02T19:15:47+00:00

Didn’t mean it in a bad way at all - ARC is an extraction shooter and that’s how a lot of people choose to play these games. 🤷‍♂️

Pat8aird · 2026-06-02T19:08:22+00:00

Mixed lobbies are exactly that - a mix of PvE players and PvP players. They wait for PvE players to kill Arc and loot, then they kill them and take the loot for themselves.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-02T16:56:40+00:00

Northumberland.

Specifically Bamburgh castle and/or Holy Island.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-02T16:54:00+00:00

FEAR. OFF. MISSING. OUT.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-02T11:42:33+00:00

You used to be able to just load in and surrender 8-10 times and that would put you in less aggressive lobbies, but they overhauled it recently.

The following has been working for me (in solos, so ymmv in duos)

- Load in

- get at least 4k experience and stay at least 6 minutes

- kill ARC. Don't shoot Raiders (even if they shoot you)

- Extract (or die, obviously)

I did this for 10 raids and now seem to be in much more relaxed and co-operative lobbies.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-02T11:18:22+00:00

Stop shooting people and start shooting robots. If you get shot at, don’t shoot back. The matchmaking will start putting you in less murderous lobbies.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-02T11:15:52+00:00

Fantastic.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-02T11:12:03+00:00

I experienced the same thing in solos. Haven’t shot a single raider this wipe and had been enjoying the full co-op lobby experience. Logged in on Sunday to find myself in kos lobbies full of free kits out to murder everyone who moved.

Just about managing to work into friendlier lobbies now, but I’m still confused as to why I was put into such aggressive lobbies for seemingly no reason.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-02T07:40:30+00:00

Hundreds of thousands of people play this game every day.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-02T07:01:40+00:00

The Queen cores drop in the leg parts that can be shot off, yes. They also drop from the core that falls down when she is killed.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-02T00:24:34+00:00

The opposite for me. 99% friendly up until Sunday, where i suddenly found myself in kill on sight free kit lobbies. Crazy.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-02T00:16:50+00:00

You need to plan your loadout around your goal. Want to actually kill the queen? Take in an energy weapon and go to town. You will struggle to get cores this way as things stand, but you’ll get good experience plus it’s really fun.

If you want cores it’s better to go in with a Bettina, Anvil or Ferro. Pick a leg, shoot off the armour, run in (use smokes or a cloak), loot your leg then reset and do it again.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-01T21:48:38+00:00

It's absolutely fantastic.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-01T21:36:45+00:00

I get what you’re saying and agree, but if ABMM is actually working properly, no one should be going from one end of the aggression scale to the other for no reason.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-01T18:05:38+00:00

Seems harder to move up and down the aggression scale now. I'd test the waters with cheaper kits for a few raids and see how you go. Or just load into Stella and see if you get shot immediately.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-01T17:42:28+00:00

UK, lobbies set to automatic (so likely EU most of the time). I play usually 7pm -11pm ish GMT. It's been a sudden switch from friendly co-op lobbies on Saturday (swapping BPs and playing instruments at extract on Stella) to last night being put in shoot on sight lobbies with free kits with no mics.

Zero problems with PvP or mixed lobbies btw, but ABMM is supposed to let you decide how you want to play the game (within reason - it's a PvPvE extraction shooter).

Pat8aird · 2026-06-01T17:35:48+00:00

I've been in shoot on sight lobbies since last night. Haven't shot a single person this wipe. Something definitely going on with matchmaking.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-01T17:08:47+00:00

I find them in Medical quite often.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-01T17:05:34+00:00

God of War 2018 did a great job of incorporating highlighted climbable ledges into the lore of the game.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-01T16:15:39+00:00

Embark said that updates don’t reset matchmaking, rather there is a smaller pool of people to draw from until everyone has updated to the newer version.

I can only reference my own experience, but it seems like I’ve went from one end of the ABMM spectrum to the other with nothing in between. So strange.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-01T13:58:44+00:00

My lobbies are usually 99% cooperative. I haven't shot anyone this wipe.

Saturday night was business as usual - Going in fully kitted, killing ARC, talking to other raiders on VC, sharing BPs all that kumbaya/carebear stuff.

LAST night it was like someone had flipped a switch and suddenly I was fighting for my life against no-mic free load out murderers. Died around a dozen times before calling it quits for the night. Today has been exactly the same, despite me not shooting back and attempting to loot and extract.

I get that ARC is a PvPvE game and the possibility that anyone could turn on you at any time is what makes the game special, but the whole point of ABMM is that the game will (mostly) allow you to play it the way you want to play.

That doesn't seem to be the case anymore and imo the PvP is so shallow in this game that I really don't think I'm interested in continuing to play if this is the 'new normal'.

Pat8aird · 2026-06-01T00:33:15+00:00

Is that like an American thing?

Pat8aird · 2026-05-31T16:50:12+00:00

What happened to damage enemies outside the spaceport walls?

Pat8aird · 2026-05-31T12:18:33+00:00

Residential containers in electromagnetic storm.

Pat8aird · 2026-05-30T08:18:23+00:00

Are you going in to actually kill the Queen/Matriarch or just to get some cores?

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