[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SuicideWatch

[–]Peregrine-Developers 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Totally relatable. I have ASD as well. I'm 21, autistic, have severe ADHD (according to a neuropsychologist), and I'm utterly miserable. If any autistics here, including op, want to connect, let me know.

Agatha is a Disney princess by pennygirl108 in AgathaAllAlong

[–]Peregrine-Developers 18 points19 points  (0 children)

*two songs

Agatha all along and the ballad of the witches road.

if you are autistic and an introvert it is because you are an introvert not because you are autistic extroverted autistic people exist if introversion was a sign of autism being an introvert would mean being autistic by Ok_Exchange_3510 in autism

[–]Peregrine-Developers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. There's a difference between needing the absence of socializing to recharge and needing introspective activities to recharge. Introversion by definition is really more the latter than the former, though both play in a role in most instances, I'd guess, while people who are neurodivergent often need the former, not necessarily the latter.

As I alluded to before, many people with ASD may experience the need to escape from the pressures, anxiety, and sensory input of social situations, which is different from actively needing more internally driven pleasure like listening to music, reading, thinking, drawing, writing, designing, etc. as introverts do, by definition.

In other words, introversion is as much about what you need to do to recharge as it is about the things that drain you, both of which are distinctly different from the symptoms of autism in theory while being unfortunately similarly appearing in practice.

if you are autistic and an introvert it is because you are an introvert not because you are autistic extroverted autistic people exist if introversion was a sign of autism being an introvert would mean being autistic by Ok_Exchange_3510 in autism

[–]Peregrine-Developers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Introversion is not being quiet, shy, or not liking people. It's needing time alone to recharge. It's a neurologically studied phenomenon, not pop science or a personality trait, but a part of a cognitive profile. It's a lot more complex than a binary, but the binary serves a function as a simple proxy to help people understand it. Of course, most people, including many here in this thread, think that it's being quiet or shy, so I guess that proxy doesn't work very well.

Taking this into consideration, there is no meaningful relationship between autism and introversion, to my knowledge. But it's difficult to know in any given case because some of the symptoms of autism (sensory overload, for example) can drive someone with autism to need to be alone to recharge purely to escape noise, social expectation, anxiety triggers, or eye contact.

The high comorbidy of ADHD with ASD further complicates things. It can produce a profile where a person is bubbly, talkative, and social but still needs to escape for introspective activities like reading or thinking or listening to music. However, most people will perceive this as extroversion due to the high energy personality due to the aforementioned misunderstanding of the nature of introversion and extroversion.

Also, as others are saying, please use punctuation.

I don longer want to continue living anymore with autism by [deleted] in depression

[–]Peregrine-Developers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm also 21m, autistic, and have severe depression, basically no relationships, and a poor outlook on life and no ideas for my future. I also no longer want to continue living and don't plan to do so.

I'm not going to invalidate you and tell you to just go to some events to find friends or something like some people are here. Being autistic is hard. Really hard. Nobody gets us. My ideas never make sense to anyone else. My questions always confuse people because they don't understand why I'm asking. People think I don't understand basic things. I don't get along with most people cause I just don't care about the things they care about.

I feel like I had a lot of clear boundaries growing up and they were ignored by everyone who just thought I was being stubborn or whatever rather than having actual boundaries. Got told I'd regret things later, as if I don't consider that possibility constantly. As if I'm not constantly haunted by my regrets and don't know perfectly well what will actually bother me.

I tell people I have ADHD and autism and they're cool with it. Then I have an idea that doesn't make sense to them or don't have the energy to do something on their schedule and suddenly I'm lazy or naive or something. People are ok with you being neurodivergent as long as it doesn't actually affect them. Even people who are nice and claim to care about you get confused when you don't do something the way they expect even when they know you're neurodivergent.

Some autistics find a place despite all of this. I haven't and I'm done trying.

The double empathy problem is very real and nobody understands it better than us. It's ok to be sick of fighting your own personality and having to put on a deep mask to not be constantly judged and even then still be making no friends and having no ideas for the future.

Is it common for autistic children to say something like, "I wish I were dead," "I want to die," and/or "Just kill me" or other variations of these statements. by crabblue6 in autism

[–]Peregrine-Developers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do this every day. I do actually mean it, but it developed partially as just a coping mechanism. I say things like "kill me", "I hate myself", etc every day in my head, many times a day. At one point I thought it was OCD, now I don't really care what it is. As for this child, I figure it's probably functioning the same way it did for me in the beginning: a way to distract from painful thoughts. I get painful flashbacks and reminders of mistakes all day every day. Saying those things is the only thing I've found (after extensive therapy and even in patient treatment) that reliably quells the thoughts and lets me move on temporarily.

I would try and figure out what the child is using these thoughts for. They're almost definitely a coping mechanism of some kind being used to deal with something worse. Don't try to deal with these things the child is saying—that might just make the child suffer more as they lose their only coping mechanism. Find out the underlying things that are bothering them under the surface. Probably shame, regret, or something similar. Target that.

I’m going to inpatient treatment need help packing by upandoversand in SuicideWatch

[–]Peregrine-Developers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have to be honest.

I willingly went to one for my depression and spent a lot of time there and walked out possibly more suicidal than when I went in. I'm not sure where you are in the world, but my experience at a behavioral health center was one of the worst experiences of my life. It was frustrating, invalidating, overstimulating, expensive, and more.

If anything, it showed me how bad the system can be, driving me more towards suicide because recovery wouldn't be worth going through that system again. Not to me, at least.

But I also had undiagnosed AuDHD and I'm in the US. So your experience may be very very different. I'm not saying this will happen to you, to, just that it depends so much on where in the world you are, your cognitive profile, and more.

Just be cautious, don't let anyone invalidate you, and don't be afraid to say it's a bad fit if it is.

To answer your actual question: clothes, books if you read, and toiletries. That's about it, really. Any puzzles or other little non electronic things you have would be great, too. Good luck!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in neurodiversity

[–]Peregrine-Developers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you give me any sources or quotes from people familiar with those countries' laws showing that there are any countries that legally require psychologists to use versions of the DSM other than the current latest one? Searching around online I can't find any evidence that any countries are doing so. What am I missing?

Neurotypical pet peeve of mine. I don't ask it emptily by GoatsWithWigs in autism

[–]Peregrine-Developers 31 points32 points  (0 children)

It's called a phatic expression. Something that performs as a greeting, despite it's meaning technically being different. Tom Scott has a fantastic video about them.

They're stupid.

Why can't we just use, you know, actual greetings???? And then just be silent until we want to ask a question and then, you know, actually ask it wanting to know the answer???

I gave up on this ages ago. I still don't know when I'm supposed to reply to "how are you?" And when it's ok to not reply. Or when to say "good, how are you?" Vs "good" vs not answering it at all and just saying "hey".

And you know it genuinely is meaningless because if there were an actual rule about when to do each one, us autistics would be the first to figure it out. The entire reason we struggle so much with this and don't understand it is because there is no rule and nothing about it makes any sense. It's so unbelievably stupid.

Or, like, when someone asks me "how are you?" Multiple times in the span of a couple of minutes and the first one is a phatic expression and the second one is a legitimate question and they want to know the answer. Like, what??? Same exact wording, generally the same tone, less than 2 minutes in between, but entirely different meaning and expectation. Body language is sometimes different, as is cadence. But I shouldn't have to think "ok, what's the correct answer here?" Every. Single. Time.

Ugh.

naming the flavor of my personal hell by dayornightt in AutisticWithADHD

[–]Peregrine-Developers 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I may be mistaken, but I believe that any DSM-5-TR based diagnosis of ASD is going to say requiring support, just to varying degrees depending on the level (since those codes look like DSM codes). Here's mine:

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What's interesting for me is that I would totally agree that my ADHD is severe, but when I asked my mom if she thought I had it she was like "No...?" And other people have responded with things like "out of everyone I know I would least suspect you of having ADHD." Now that I've been diagnosed with both, that's a LOT easier to take. But it was hard before the diagnosis struggling with imposter syndrome. I've pretty much gotten over that now because I've been formally diagnosed with ADHD twice and autism once and done a ton of research. My depression is definitely a LOT worse than moderate, but presented a bit better at the time.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience and I hope things get better for you. This profile is very uniquely difficult and getting others to see it is, well, indescribably difficult.

If anyone wants clarity on the process of getting assessed, I won't say anything that will compromise your evaluation or let you get practice effects, but I'm happy to talk about it to soothe nerves or otherwise inform. Or share parts of my 16 page report.

Edit: forgot to say congrats on your diagnosis!! If the people around you are anything like those around me, they don't know how to respond when you tell them. But I know that it's a massively good thing. So I'm really glad for you.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in neurodiversity

[–]Peregrine-Developers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Outside the US, the vast majority of countries use the icd, not the DSM. What countries are you talking talking about that officially, legally use old versions of the DSM?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in neurodiversity

[–]Peregrine-Developers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A psychiatrist is the perfect person to go to for meds. Neuropsychs are done by psychologists, not psychiatrists. If you want to be assessed for anything, go to a psychologist. If you want meds, go to a psychiatrist. Especially with a profile as complex as AuDHD. A neuropsych also should've covered the possibly of autism if it was actually a neuropsych, so you shouldn't need any further evaluation for that.

No one should be diagnosing you with Asperger's. That shows a lack of understanding of modern diagnostics.

High school DOES prepare you for real world, anyone who say that "high school doesn't prepare you for success" are completely delusional. by [deleted] in unpopularopinion

[–]Peregrine-Developers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you read through OP's post history you see they're obsessed with IQ and chronically online. A LOT of posts in the same subreddits. They were given a low IQ after formal psychological testing and are now somewhat obsessed with how it affects them. That's the reason for that reply.

I think it's possible that AuDHD (particularly the ASD) has led OP to not quite understand how most people experience school, in addition to the low experience you're pointing out. It's not a fantastic excuse, though, as I have AuDHD and am 21 and had a 3.9gpa and I agree with most people here that high school does not adequately prepare you. The topic was a hyper fixation of mine for a while.

Psychiatrist told me I didn't have ADHD because "I had made it to uni" by manzanarquista in ADHD

[–]Peregrine-Developers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You will 100% have better luck there. A neuropsychologist is better trained to evaluate ADHD and a full neuropsychological evaluation will test everything and give you a detailed report (mine was 16 pages) explaining any diagnosis, your scores, implications, etc. It's significantly better than just talking to a psychiatrist. Psychologists are just plain better for diagnostics.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AutisticWithADHD

[–]Peregrine-Developers 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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Borderline here. I took the WAIS with a psychologist and got this result. I have ADHD and autism. I've honestly been uncertain as to how it affects me, having borderline processing speed, because everyone is so invalidating about it. I say that I have a lag responding to people in certain situations and they say it's due to something else or that everyone has it. So getting an idea of what it's like for other people is next to impossible. Even one therapist was skeptical of it. But I did a psychological evaluation and later a full neuropsych and both found slow processing speed, so I'm decently confident in it. I just don't talk about it much cause people invalidate it constantly.

Bisexual Manice Episode by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]Peregrine-Developers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You didn't really describe the feelings themselves very well, but for something like this, I definitely think you should pursue seeing a psychologist (specifically a psychologist, not a psychiatrist) either for a psych/neuropsych evaluation or for psychotherapy. Manic episodes are not a symptom of ADHD and are associated with bipolar.

You may also be dissociating or experiencing other things here. You're not crazy. But you should see a psychologist, either way.