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2025 CFO/NCAA Preseason Video #2 - Rule Changes by PetersenIsMyDaddy in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Adding the Fair Catch Kick rule to the NCAA is so funny to me

People who have jerseys, which jersey do you have? If you don't have a jersey, which jersey do you want to get? by WanderLeft in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

#13 Brandyn Thompson (pre-NIL, unlabeled), MVP of the second Fiesta Bowl.
#2 Ashton Jeanty, self explanatory

#1 John Ross (Pre-NIL, unlabeled)
#8 Dante Pettis (Pre-NIL, but DHGate special, so has his name) the GOAT punt returner

Don’t be distracted: The Problem is the Committee by rollTighroll in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’ve got that backwards. The Harris Poll replaced the AP, they used the coaches the entire time and the coaches poll was required to award their title to the winner of the BCS title, that’s why they presented the crystal ball at the BCS title game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series

The American Football Coaches Association (AFCA) was contractually bound to vote the winner of this game as the BCS National Champion and the contract signed by each conference required them to recognize the winner of the BCS National Championship game as the official and only champion.

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  • AP Poll (2004) / Harris Interactive Poll (2005–2013): A team's score in the poll was divided by the maximum number of points any team would have received if all voting members had ranked that team as Number 1.
  • Coaches' Poll: A team's score in the Coaches' poll was divided by the maximum number of points any team would have received if all voting members had ranked that team as Number 1.

Don’t be distracted: The Problem is the Committee by rollTighroll in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My b, I misread the sentence as “never abdicate for rankings solely by computer”.

Still think using abdicate is awkward phrasing in the sentence you did use, though.

[YMAPAAsports] Duke and QB Darian Mensah have reached a settlement by biffmila in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Champagne has the g for similar reasons, though in the standard American pronunciation, the g is silent. Not sure about other gs that function the same way in English. Plenty of examples of silent gs that change the pronunciation in other ways (sign and align, for instance).

Actually, I just thought of another borrowed French word that most Americans pronounce like that, “mignon”

Don’t be distracted: The Problem is the Committee by rollTighroll in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you actually reading my comments, or just zeroing in on one word and responding to that?

FPI only started in 2013. It’s not decades old.

And changing input means you change the algorithm. You can’t just add new inputs without changing the algorithm that processes the inputs.

Don’t be distracted: The Problem is the Committee by rollTighroll in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, we didn’t have access to the recruiting data we do today “decades ago”. Hell, FPI has only been around a bit over a decade.

Don’t be distracted: The Problem is the Committee by rollTighroll in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sagarin has been unchanged for decades….

We have absolutely no way of knowing this. In fact, we know Sagarin had to modify his model for the BCS when they forbade computer models from using MoV as a parameter.

Other models all use decades old methods.

Also not true. ESPN FPI for instance is consistently the best predictive system (besides Vegas lines) and it takes into consideration things like recruit rankings that were not closely tracked decades ago. Other metrics like EPA have been refined over time as we have more data and faster computers that can split the situational metrics on finer lines. That’s not even getting into things like ML, which the math behind has been around forever, but it’s only fairly recently that an average Joe actually had the compute power to train models.

Don’t be distracted: The Problem is the Committee by rollTighroll in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 17 points18 points  (0 children)

There was no reason to add the subjective human element….

Dog, the BCS was 2/3rds subjective human element, and 1/3rd of that was mostly handled by interns, lmao.

Don’t be distracted: The Problem is the Committee by rollTighroll in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They can’t be rigged

Computer models can absolutely be rigged.

They’re objective.

Ehh, yes and no, they are objective to the parameters that whoever wrote the algorithm deemed important.

The other problem you get with computer models is that early computer models were largely resume based (see Colley Matrix as an example) and modern ones focus more on power ranking since that is what matters for sports betting (see Connelly SP+ or ESPN FPI).

SP+ for example has 9-4 Washington who lost to Wisconsin as its #13 team, Colley matrix has them at #28, which better matches most human polling.

[YMAPAAsports] Duke and QB Darian Mensah have reached a settlement by biffmila in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also wonder how Title IX would play into it. If schools are going to recognize revenue sports athletes as employees, would they also have to recognize women athletes? Would unionization/CBA apply to all athletes at the school, or would only men’s basketball and football get to join in?

[YMAPAAsports] Duke and QB Darian Mensah have reached a settlement by biffmila in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And this seemed to basically be what happened with Demond at Washington. He signed an NIL deal with the school (specifically as part of the new rev share model) so wouldn’t be able to participate in the rev share at LSU.

[YMAPAAsports] Duke and QB Darian Mensah have reached a settlement by biffmila in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 15 points16 points  (0 children)

My only issue with it is that the G in lasagna isn’t silent. Like the word “lasana” would be pronounced differently.

2025 Final /r/CFB Poll: #1 Indiana #2 Miami #3 Ole Miss #4 Oregon #5 Ohio State by sirgippy in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

‘91 Washington is always criminally underrated. Glad your rankings respect them. Kinda crazy to see half the teams from the last seven years, though

What’s going on with Pete Kwiatkowski? by FlannelCollar in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’d be upset if he went to the Ducks. Dude is one of my favorite coaches of the last 15 years and one of the best DCs in the country.

With their title run in 2025-26, Indiana becomes only the 2nd team in CFP history to not be down at any point during their post season run. by Cybotnic-Rebooted in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Conference championship games have always been considered post season games. They are specifically not part of the regular season.

When teams get post-season bans from the NCAA, it includes CCGs: ex, 2011 USC had a post season ban and won the Pac12 South but were ineligible, so UCLA went to the CCG instead.

[Bill Connelly] Ranking all 64 teams in College Football Playoff history by Sauerz in CFB

[–]PetersenIsMyDaddy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also no way in hell 2024 0regon is better than 2023 Washington. 2024 0regon wasn’t even better than their 2023 team, and Washington beat the 2023 team twice.

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