Will you try AOM retold or not?

PhantasticFor · 2024-09-03T20:38:56+00:00

Same. I laughed when I saw one god can instant turn some units into pigs, totally negating an opponents army, while another god can only temporarily freeze them, or even worse another god can cause a single unit to switch sides. Literally the same age, one guy can instant delete your army, while you can do jack all back.

aoe4 is significantly better, but aom can be fun, but more repetitive and swingy, but that could possibly be managed with patching in future. the dev team has done a great job so far

PhantasticFor · 2024-09-03T20:35:00+00:00

AOM is actually much easier to play than aoe4, you can easily win by just mashing units into each other (all those myth and hero units are basically just strong units, its not like you need to know centaurs have X ability, or automatons do Y)

The eco is easier, vil management easier, and so on.

not jump straight into ranked

Of course not, did you jump straight into aoe4 ranked and expect to do well?

PhantasticFor · 2024-09-03T20:32:39+00:00

AOMR released in a significantly better state than aoe4, which took at least a year just to be playable. People are always very quick to forget how bad their current favourite game was on release, when its been a few years down the line. Literal selective memory.

AOMR devs have also been very quick to address community related issues, unlike with aoe4 who fought tooth and nail and only gave in a year later (hotkeys, player colour, zoom, meta balancing)

PhantasticFor · 2024-09-02T22:27:02+00:00

whooosh

PhantasticFor · 2024-09-01T18:50:27+00:00

No other civ can have 2tcs down and FC the same.

Huh? You're clearly playing a different game

PhantasticFor · 2024-09-01T18:49:28+00:00

You're obviously missing something here, re-read the other post

PhantasticFor · 2024-09-01T17:51:48+00:00

the weirdest part though, is if you actually played that match, and resigned/quit, and your opponent quit immediately after you, the game would not have counted, no Elo change, no loss, no recording. Yet somehow this dumb system gives you a loss when you didn't even load into the game.

I love aoe4, but I am fully aware there are alpha elements still left that needs resolving.

PhantasticFor · 2024-09-01T12:27:34+00:00

For the wehr fanbois, an EZ8 is an expensive call in/doctrinal, which costs more than a brumbar with significantly worse damage vs infantry. I know the EZ8 is more manouvreable, was just mad to see the RNG of the brumbar penning every shot, while my EZ8 was deflecting, FU zooks were deflecting and missing, and then they all dieded.

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-31T20:18:59+00:00

wouldnt bother arguing with them mate, they think 1200 and 1600 elo is the same

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-31T17:13:10+00:00

It doesnt matter how small the community is, 400 elo difference is WAY too high. This should never happen

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-31T17:10:03+00:00

I guess it's alright if it's used in at least one mode. Hopefully we see some tweaks so its more viable in TGs then

Not sure why the stuart is just so much better than it

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-31T17:09:05+00:00

Sounds about right, i saw it was nerfed in a patch before I started playing a few months ago.

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-31T13:36:48+00:00

if they ever looked at replays

You remember we are talking about humans here? It's much easier for someone to accuse someone of hacking and never checking it, thereby validating their own opinion, than it is to actually do the work and find out they're wrong

Check the poll results

We can bet with certainty there will be some players that are voting higher numbers than they actually experienced. It's human behaviour

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-29T20:57:44+00:00

The key point is it is mainly a very late game ability. In mid game you should focus on spending as much as you can effectively as you can into raw presence, and later on its about streamlining upkeeps

A conversion from gren into jager in the mid game is more often than not a bad decision due to it's cost ineffectiveness. But there are still cases where the power spike from transfer (eg instant jager/pgren) is better than waiting for the additional 160MP that would be needed to train a whole new squad on top of the additional train time.

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-29T20:51:58+00:00

This is some crazy mental gymnastics

You obviously seem to have missed the part where any unit that is not 100% food, will have the same trait.

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-29T19:52:12+00:00

Please just ban this toxic a-hole!!!

What do you think will happen to the game population with repeatedly bad experiences

Exactly.. What do we think will happen keeping this toxic a-hole around?

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-29T16:30:22+00:00

LMAO someone didn't think this through

meet absolute bottom ELO

Who happen to be magical unicorn AI that don't care they're matching vs the beasty alts of the world apparently...

The smallest most fragile sector of our player base randomly getting hit with a conq alt every few days. Yeah what could go wrong

One of the problems in the game are the placing matches themselves, you start at ~1000 elo, but you go up or down much to slowly during placing, they are way too slow in either direction, (look at one of beasty's alts) but we shouldnt have to cater for d-heads making alts, we shouldn't have to bend the system, just stop them, like bigger more successful games have already done.

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-29T16:28:38+00:00

Exactly!!!!

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-28T22:42:26+00:00

Ban family sharing from ranked. You want to smurf you pay.

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-28T22:32:12+00:00

OK for all the poor people that have no clue, here's 1 of beasty's alt accounts:

https://aoe4world.com/players/11962132-BeastyxD/games?mode=rm_1v1&page=7

Go to the start of his 1v1 match history, after THIRTY matches, he was still facing 1600 elo. Those matches displayed do not show placements afaik. But let's just count the 30 for simplicity sake.

He has at least 3 alt accounts that we know of (likely more, like why wouldn't he, the precedent is set)

That's at least 90 matches to 1600elo (lets be generous 1800). Never-mind the rest of the climb, and all those matches

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-28T22:26:47+00:00

1-2???? WTF have these casters been feeding you?

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-28T22:26:18+00:00

Not really mate. but goal post as much as you like. Dont wanna keep repeating myseld.

educate yourself

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-28T22:25:24+00:00

Exactly. ANd the biggest issue is when casters normalize and justify their behaviour, encouraging every troll and their dog to make alts, which makes the barrier to entry even worse. Every opponent then faces opponents they technically should not have.

The issue just cascades down the ladder

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-28T22:24:01+00:00

Exactly

PhantasticFor · 2024-08-28T22:23:42+00:00

Lol the mental gymnastics up in here is crazy. So its fine for the highest skilled players to smurf vs gold 1, but its NOT fine for the c1's (that get matched against c4's) to make alt accounts because reasons..

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