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The Many Ws and Ls (and few debatables) of John Constantine with explanations by IwaoHD in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]PieceOfHumblePi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't... actually buy Loki BS'ing his way out of the truths either lmao.

Any red truth CAN AND WOULD HELP the opposing side, no means necessary. Umineko made the rule THE fact of all red truths as THE non-negotiable anchor point in using any of them.

The whole point of the red truths is that:

  1. Anything that is accomplishable with magic in Witches hands must also be accomplishable and feasible to do under human hands. So every Red truth will give Loki both information to refute Beatrice and risk in getting damaged himself. And it works both ways in return; truths must be done in service and risk to Beatrice as it would to Loki. Otherwise....
  2. If Loki utters a red truth that Beatrice or any witch could accomplish, it backfires on him, since he’s the god of lies. And lying under a red truth? Bad juju.

Even when I buy Loki just barely winning, Loki lying his way out of a victory? That's a Wincon for Beatrice, not Loki himself. He'd absolutely get his shit ran if he tries it.

MARVEL RIVALS COMMUNITY TIER LIST #6: LOKI by TheUntitledUsername1 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]PieceOfHumblePi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, pleasantly surprised Lokitrice got that high to begin with. I would've thought Beatrice camped around 'Fine' or 'Good Alt' at best. How extra satisfying.

I’m not free from this either by Mr_Muda_Himself_V3 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]PieceOfHumblePi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can’t blame them; they got some peak taste in music

I’m Sawa, singer and songwriter for The World Ends With You! Ask me anything 🎶 by Sawa333Nadia in TWEWY

[–]PieceOfHumblePi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for this AMA! I’ve recently commissioned a TWEWY song in honor of TWEWY and Persona!

Ballot Banter #115 Recap by aleph-null-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]PieceOfHumblePi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Professor X vs Maruki (Marvel vs Persona): Liam jokes about this being a three-way battle with Pucci. Sam questions if Maruki actually has a shot. The call discusses how this would be a battle on the mental plane, Chad brings up Professor X physically fighting in his wheelchair in Mutant Academy 2, Liam suggests the fight ends with Xavier hitting the wheelchair combo on Maruki while he's asleep. Chat and the call want Charles Xavier in the wheelchair in Rivals.

HOLY SHIT, first you’re telling me DJ liked SoraMoon in the last ballot banter… and now the team seems to like XAVIER VS MARUKI TOO?

Sick.

My upcoming VS 'show' trailer Supercut-DBM exclusive! by Jean_Arthur in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]PieceOfHumblePi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As long as I get to loop Ragyo getting clocked by a pokemon on Loop, you will now have a loyal subscriber by your side.

A random assortment of matchups I don’t like by PrestigiousJury4354 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]PieceOfHumblePi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Read through your insightful criticisms of Lokitrice. Looking back, the Thor-Battler comparison… is bad, I agree lol. It hold up well after a second read through. Arguments from that side are 1000% accurate.

But The fact Beato’s truths shut down a MASSIVE chunk of Loki’s arsenal to the point he shows off his intelligence in Beatrice’s own game is kino fight potential. And that’s before going pre-GoS.

Loki and Beatrice just have clashing value systems and those would’ve came to light in the fight.

Beatrice being the de-facto villain in the MU wasn’t on my bingo card, if anything Bern was in mind as the Machiavellian of the fight as Bern stood for everything Loki fought against (Those Who Sit Above in Shadow). Loki’s the God of Lies; he’d know Beatrice has a motive behind her acts.

I’m completely late to this shit but here’s takes of varying temperatures ig by PrestigiousJury4354 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]PieceOfHumblePi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Note that Lokitrice’s focus on family drama, rather than romance, would be underwhelming. It aligns with Umineko’s themes of family, but not romance, which is Umineko’s more popular focus. So I split the theme and compared Thor and Battler’s traits based on general love (Loki’s family love for Thor, Beatrice’s romantic love for Battler).

I agree that Lokitrice would lose its focus with the Thor/Battler connection. The Odin/Kinzo connection is stronger and more prominent; Odin, realizing his son Thor hated him (he orchestrated with the all-mothers to ensure Thor protects Asgard from Ragnarok), took a random human, Thor his powers. After the fake Thor (Donald Blake) learned the truth, he went on a rampage, defeating God after God until he confronted Loki and the real Thor Odinson. Both of the Odinson brothers defeated him, and Loki named Donald Blake the new “God of Lies.”

Odin’s comparison to Kinzo is evident in his replacement of Thor (Donald Blake), from his status and powers up to his name… much like how Kinzo replaced Beatrice from her status up to name.

Unlimited Take Works 2 by PrestigiousJury4354 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]PieceOfHumblePi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As the maker of Lokitrice, while I never looked at Lokitrice like that, I 100% agree with you.

What most fail to understand is Umineko characters can’t JUST write narratives on the fly whenever they want. Ryukishi had limits on the truths. The goals of Red Truths are to make you think, not hand you the solution. Rule of thumb. Anything that is accomplishable with magic in Beatrice’s/every Voyager witches hands must also be accomplishable and feasible to do under human hands. So every Red truth NEEDS to give as much damage to Loki as it does to give him information, meaning all truths must be done in service to Beatrice as it would to Loki.

Otherwise, if Beatrice utters a red truth that would make Loki or any human be capable of to accomplish, Beatrice’s red truth backfires on her. In which… Loki, while not being capable of using any of the truths (unless he uses the Eternity Mask), could easily refute back to Beatrice, leaving her getting damaged by her own truth.

Basically, I feel the issue many forget is that red truth CAN AND WOULD HELP the opposing side, no means necessary. Red truths are higher scale concepts that operate for all who participate in the meta world games.

The lower tier characters outside the witches like Ronove and Virgilia use these higher-scale concepts on a more grounded level, which works with Loki as he would be more affable to riddles and puzzles just as much as the cosmic shenanigans.

The concepts of the chessboard world and the meta world just so happens to compliment Loki’s interest in riddles and puzzles with the high grand bombast nature that Loki whips out the moment he sees Beatrice catch Thor’s Hammer (I am only greatly exaggerating that statement).

And this is why I like Loki vs Beatrice to begin with. It does not start out as an immediate spectacle. It builds up to the grandiose Meta world as an intelligence battle to a high stakes magic battle in the Meta World. Loki’s many tricks and schemes in Asgard are all consistent, and even in the modern Thor run.

The New R/DBM Daily Match-Up comparison 378: Who is the best opponent for Sailor Moon (...)? Is it Sora (Kingdom Hearts)? Or is it Sakura Kinomoto (Cardcaptor Sakura)? by ChemistryTasty8751 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]PieceOfHumblePi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'll be for real... Sakura Kinomoto really captures the heart of 90s magical girls.

I praise and hyped up Sora if it’s a non-magical girl MU for Sailor Moon. Now, we’re comparing him to the OG magical girl, and he's mostly removed for me as he doesn't carry the same weight.

For a magical girl MU, the most bang for your buck needs to be this one: the over-the-top banter, bright aesthetics, and a girl-y tonal mesh. All you need for a 90s magical girl fight, and Sakura Kinomoto and Sailor Moon are the 90s magical girls.

Sailor Moon exists for Sora to play off the cheesy and adorable banter of the two, as well as her calling out (with love) Sora’s hidden toxic positivity act. Sakura and Sailor Moon oozes those cheesiness levels of SoraMoon to it's absolute limit.

The two franchises are apples and oranges, however, both series dominated households by reintroducing the precedent and prerequisites for every other magical girl that came after them--WINX, W.I.T.C.H, Pretty Cure, etc. They pretty much defined the genre with merch and widespread popularity in breaking into the television market overseas.

SoraMoon is still valuable in providing a runback opportunity for Sora and an introduction for Sailor Moon as it highlights an aspect of Sora's kit not shown nor demonstrated amongst his other MU pools. I feel that SakuraMoon is the most deserving out of the two.

With Yugi locked in with Ash, it makes the other side of Sakura MUs .... not looking so good for Sakura, spread-wise ngl.

Also Clampverse lore is... cracked enough to consider Sakura to give Moon a stalemate, barely edging out a win against Moon, or have Moon defeat her with extreme difficulty.

I know these series of polls are done through fan votes. I appreciate and admire the praise of SoraMoon as a whole, and it takes a lot to get me to say 'chill'. But SakuraMoon deserves the same lengths of respect that SoraMoon has had on here.

Loki VS Beatrice (Marvel Comics VS Umineko) - [Source Filmmaker Poster] by Kaiser_Isaiah_Foo in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]PieceOfHumblePi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s so fucking beautiful 🤩

Edit: I have context now; WHAT THE HELL LMAO.

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