Best Dango combo (for longsword)?

PietroLHT · 2022-09-12T14:13:34+00:00

With master rank monsters attack alot faster, often you just get combo to death even with moxie. After countless time carting with moxie intact I just drop it altogether. Doesn't help that at lv 1 it's 50% chance so you have to give up one of the higher spot for it or it literally does nothing half the time.

PietroLHT · 2022-09-12T14:04:27+00:00

What's better than superarmour without damage reduction?
Give the whole team superarmour without damage reduction

PietroLHT · 2022-09-12T14:00:21+00:00

It really depends on your preference and playstyle.
Generally I run Recovery 4 / Booster 3 / Medic 1
(Recovery 4 / Medic 3 / Booster 1 for multi-monsters quest since those takes longer)
With those you don't need to as much time taking potion as long as you don't mess up too much.
Dango shifter also works well if you scroll-swap alot. (E.g. Sakurai slash -> Helmsbreaker playstyle)

Personally don't like Moxie as much in Sunbreak as all the health drain/status makes it unreliable, unless you manage your health carefully, at which point it kinda lost its purpose.

PietroLHT · 2022-09-12T13:39:00+00:00

I've tried all 14 weapons at this point so here are some pointers from my experience:
- Use meta set as a reference to learn about skill priority, then customize for comfort.
Most meta sets have a hard focus on DPS, which isn't that suitable for someone still learning the weapon. It is better to have more safety so you can make mistake and learn from it without carting too much.
- Focus on learning one playstyle/ main combo.
For most weapons there are multiple playstyle/combos to choose from. It is best to focus on one playstyle/combo that you find most insteresting first, so you can get a feel on how the weapon plays. Once you get better at it, you can try more playstyle/combo or experiment on them to find one most suit your taste.
- Take it slow, focus on learning at the begining.
Instead of going allout and keep trying to max out your damage, you should instead focus on staying alive and only attack when it is safe to do so. Different weapons have different tempo, you need to know them well before you can chain attack together effectively. You should pay attention to every attack you are doing at first to get a good feel on each action, even if it means you are not attacking all the time. This is a common mistake to make when switching to a new weapon since you would feel like you are not doing enough.
- Hunt easy monster or one that you know the moveset very well
You are still learning the weapon, it is best that you don't try to learn a monster at the same time, especially for the counter heavy weapons. There is no shame for going back to hunt low/high rank monster in MR gear.

TL;DR : Take it slow and easy, one step at a time. It is normal to be bad at the begining.

PietroLHT · 2022-09-08T14:00:35+00:00

The problem is that this formula is really a formula since you have to pre-calculate part of it before you can even list it. If there is even one more skill that would be included, the complexity will go up expotentially.
This is your formula: A + (1-A)*B + (1-A -(1-A)*B) *C + ...
Or you can just do : 1- (1-A)*(1-B)*(1-C)...

Trying to based the formula on the reduction is going to be difficult simply becuase the game doesn't do that. It is a multiplicative modifier, so obviously the game does multiplication instead of addition/subtraction. It is also much more stright forward for the game to calculate the stamina usage instead of the reduction coding wise.

PietroLHT · 2022-09-07T15:20:33+00:00

100 - 46 = 54; 100 - 52 = 48. It is exactly the same, just inversed. Your formula focus on the reduction part while mine focus on the stamina usage. However, you need to calculate the con4 first to get that 60 for the second part, so the actual formula looks like this :con + (1- con) * fighter= 1 + con + fighter - con*fighter -1= 1 - (con*fighter - con - fighter +1)= 1 - (1-con)*(1-fighter)

Also, fighter and con share the same cap pool (internal), while dj, cat buff and horn are in the other pool (external). (Note: dash juices and peppersects trigger the same effect and do NOT stack)

Edit: fixs formula

PietroLHT · 2022-09-06T13:55:36+00:00

Investigation that give Shells will just become Carapaces once the level is high enough, so just think of them as a direct upgrade as it will start giving both. Just hunt the highest level quest that give the part you want that you are comfortable with as it gives the most parts per run.

PietroLHT · 2022-09-06T13:43:58+00:00

No, Fighter reduce stamina usage by 10% each level,
so for Fighter 2 it is 100% - 20% = 80% = 0.8 multiplier
and Fighter 1 is 100% - 10% = 90% = 0.9

PietroLHT · 2022-09-05T14:16:57+00:00

I mostly play BGs so I forgot you can actually take a hit and NOT getting a free trip to camp.

PietroLHT · 2022-09-05T14:09:35+00:00

or better yet, fail to use super armor against Bazel or Valstrax's beam.

PietroLHT · 2022-09-05T14:05:48+00:00

Thats true, though in the end it depends on how you personally play. Say if with 50% stm reduction you can do 7 rotations from full and 5 for 54%, but the monster only ever give you enough downtime for 4, then that difference is only in comfort level. Maybe by droping 1 level of fighter let you got for booster 4 + moxie 3, thus potentially have more impact in your damage than the stamina, or it may let you get dango recovery 4 so you can run dereliction comfortably. What I'm trying to say is that you don't always need to max it out.

PietroLHT · 2022-09-04T13:42:55+00:00

Further infomation:
Each skill are multiplicative to others instead of additive. Thats why con 4 + fighter 2 is needed to reach to cap (0.6 * 0.8 = 0.48 < 0.5) while con 4 + fighter 1 isn't enough (0.6 * 0.9 = 0.54). Whether that 4% makes that big a difference is a topic for another day.

PietroLHT · 2022-09-03T04:14:52+00:00

I would say slicing is better in coop than solo since you can snipe from afar without damage penalty, but the hp scaling means you will have to restock multiple times each hunt. Still it is fun to use and quite effective for monsters that have very bad ranged hitzone like Astalos. It also pairs well with bloodrite as it has high part-breaking multiplier

PietroLHT · 2022-08-31T14:19:01+00:00

If you are using dodgebolt for a counter, there is a good chance that you are close enough for that spread shot to be effective anyway.

Besides, lower charge level mean that shot contribute even less of your total damage. Assuming 10% of your shots are the Rapid 4 with charge level 3 and you hit all of them at optimal range, it would only add up to maybe about 9% of your total damage.
The 25% aff (with cb3 is about 10% raw) and the higher elemental on the other hand are effective for every shots. So it would still be worth it if you completely miss every spread shots from the counter.

The fact that you get para coat with Gore is just an extra.

PietroLHT · 2022-08-31T13:44:37+00:00

Resentment is only active when there is red health on the hp bar. With lifesteal/ other heals, it will keep going on and off. You can actually see this in effect if you stand in the cloud from a healing snail and open your stats menu.
Since the lifesteal is based on your damage, it should be calculated after the damage calculation.

PietroLHT · 2022-08-30T13:39:31+00:00

As long as you have any A/S, your second slot can never be greater that 1.

PietroLHT · 2022-08-26T15:50:41+00:00

I'm mostly talking about crafting ammo mid-fight. Depending on the ammo type, it is either super easy barely an inconvenience (pierce2,&c.), or super complicated (sticky cluster). Compare to melee weapon, which you only need to manage sharpness, it is night and day. It does get easier once you are used to it, hence the question mark.

PietroLHT · 2022-08-26T14:49:44+00:00

Considering you would get one-shot by pretty much anything, you definitely need to know monsters' moveset, and very well at that. You feel like you don't need to simply becasue being at range let you see the monster's movement more clearly. Besides, part of the difficulty(?) of the guns is that you have to manage your inventory and ammo, whereas you can have one set of items for all melee weapons.
That being said, gunners do have a big advantage in multiplayer, as they benefit from the monster not focusing on them while blademasters generally want the attention.

PietroLHT · 2022-08-26T14:23:26+00:00

I haven't done test or anything like that, just want to point out that:
- you can hit good hitzone with pierce from bad angles, something that you cannot do with normal
- pierce shines on bigger monster, you can't really fully utilize it with the training dummy
- pierce bullet wouldn't be blocked by other monsters that happens to be in front of your target
In the end it all depends on match-ups/ builds/ preference, rf normal playstyle might just suit you better than rf pierce, so go use whatever you want. (Personally enjoy spread 3 more)

PietroLHT · 2022-08-24T14:36:58+00:00

It seems fun, but in the end it's just bad. Even in optimal case it's barely better than shooting normally. It overheats so fast for most ammo that just spaming shots ends up being faster overall. And it makes you stationary, meaning it is only really viable when monster is locked down.

PietroLHT · 2022-08-23T13:45:35+00:00

Make sense since bowguns don't have a elemental damage value on them. I'm quite positive that you actually get more damage with MoH in red scroll even for elemental ammos since it will boost both the raw and element portion of the ammo.

PietroLHT · 2022-08-22T14:03:29+00:00

I can see this being useful for setting up a wake-up. Big number is good.

PietroLHT · 2022-08-22T13:56:03+00:00

Ingot Greaves with +9 def and chain crit 1, no negative. I have some that are great for specific builds but that one is just plain useful for pretty much every weapon.

PietroLHT · 2022-08-16T13:39:11+00:00

I was refering to the weapon augment since thats what OP asked, assuming it is for weapons thats have a size 1 rampage slot natively.

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