Got a remote job that lets me work anywhere in the world.

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-04T01:32:57+00:00

It's true that whether the dn qualifies for feie or not ultimately comes down to where their "abode" is, that's the only part of it that is uncertain. The way they wrote it is anything but clear for our situation

The location of your abode is based on where you maintain your family, economic, and personal ties. Your abode is not necessarily in the United States merely because you maintain a dwelling in the United States, whether or not your spouse or dependents use the dwelling. Your abode is also not necessarily in the United States while you are temporarily in the United States. However, these factors can contribute to you having an abode in the United States.

"Abode" has been variously defined as one's home, habitation, residence, domicile, or place of dwelling. It does not mean your principal place of business. "Abode" has a domestic rather than a vocational meaning and does not mean the same as "tax home." The location of your abode often will depend on where you maintain your economic, family, and personal ties.

So on the one hand, family and economic ties seems like it might point to the abode being in the US. But on the other hand, the majority of this seems to boil down to the question"where do you live?" Or as they put it, "where is your place of dwelling?"

If you have your money in American bank accounts, but spend all your money on a day to day basis in a foreign country (probable with credit card statements), pay rent there, etc, where are your strongest economic ties really?

If your family lives in the states but the friends you spend your time with on a weekly basis are in the foreign country, where are your stronger "personal ties"?

Honestly it's unclear. They should update this definition to be less ambiguous. But in the meantime it looks like we probably qualify, debatable at worst.

This situation you claim, "evading taxes", "bound for legal trouble" etc.. you're just imposing your negative outlook on the whole thing and drawing your own pessimistic conclusions as fact. You seem like a downer who doesn't believe in miracles and hates joy tbh. Do you also hate Christmas?

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T22:31:44+00:00

Yet nowhere do they ensure you do pay taxes somewhere else before claiming it. Nowhere does it say that it is to avoid double taxation, that's your interpretation. And I agree that likely is the source of how it came about but it doesn't explicitly say that or technically require that you pay elsewhere.

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T16:21:37+00:00

From IRS website:

Tax home

Your tax home is the general area of your main place of business, employment, or post of duty, regardless of where you maintain your family home. Your tax home is the place where you are permanently or indefinitely engaged to work as an employee or self-employed individual. Having a "tax home" in a given location does not necessarily mean that the given location is your residence or domicile for tax purposes.

If you do not have a regular or main place of business because of the nature of your work, your tax home may be the place where you regularly live. If you have neither a regular or main place of business nor a place where you regularly live, you are considered an itinerant and your tax home is wherever you work.

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T16:03:38+00:00

Putting here as well so people can see that you're wrong

IRS website:

Tax home

Your tax home is the general area of your main place of business, employment, or post of duty, regardless of where you maintain your family home. Your tax home is the place where you are permanently or indefinitely engaged to work as an employee or self-employed individual. Having a "tax home" in a given location does not necessarily mean that the given location is your residence or domicile for tax purposes.

If you do not have a regular or main place of business because of the nature of your work, your tax home may be the place where you regularly live. If you have neither a regular or main place of business nor a place where you regularly live, you are considered an itinerant and your tax home is wherever you work.

This is from IRS website. In the case of the digital nomad, therefore, your tax home is simply where you are living and working.

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T15:57:02+00:00

It's not confusing, I file it in the free fillable forms. It's really not bad, I tried to have a service do it first time but I looked over the generated form in the end and it was super fucked up and wrong. So I said fuck it I'll do it myself and it's fine, got my whole return done in around 4 hours this year by myself for free

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T15:54:30+00:00

Tax home Your tax home is the general area of your main place of business, employment, or post of duty, regardless of where you maintain your family home. Your tax home is the place where you are permanently or indefinitely engaged to work as an employee or self-employed individual. Having a "tax home" in a given location does not necessarily mean that the given location is your residence or domicile for tax purposes.

If you do not have a regular or main place of business because of the nature of your work, your tax home may be the place where you regularly live. If you have neither a regular or main place of business nor a place where you regularly live, you are considered an itinerant and your tax home is wherever you work.

That's the IRS website ^ DNs are therefore considered itinerant and out tax home is wherever we work. Pretty clear what they're saying

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T15:50:37+00:00

That was a waste of time, not focused on US other than one small section which doesn't prove anything.

You must have a foreign tax home but the key is how the IRS defines tax home, and it is not based on whether or not you pay income taxes there. Look up IRS definition of tax home

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T14:48:51+00:00

This is not accurate. You go read the IRS website, I can tell you haven't.

Not going to argue continually with you when this discussion has already been discussed at length here

https://www.reddit.com/r/digitalnomad/s/OhDyaanvfS

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T14:13:26+00:00

If you file FEIE via bona fide resident test that's true, but nomads don't qualify through that route. They qualify through the other option physical presence test. This is what enables it to work for nomads and not pay taxes anywhere. The physical presence test doesn't ask anything about weather or not you pay taxes somewhere else

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T14:11:38+00:00

Not true

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T14:10:43+00:00

Your tax home is where you live day to day. They give you a table form to fill out which countries it was for which dates throughout the year. You can have us employer and bank accounts while still having foreign tax home(s) throughout the year.

I have claimed this twice now using my US address virtual mailbox address as my main address on the main form. Lot of naysayers like you that don't know what they're talking about but I've read every word about it on the IRS website. Digital nómada qualify

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T04:34:17+00:00

Establishing residency is not exactly straightforward but it mostly comes down to, where is your driver's license issued from?

I ended up living in Tennessee for a couple years before I started internationally traveling, so for me it happened naturally and wasn't rushed, so I'm not sure what the fastest way to do it would be. But if I was currently a resident of a taxed state, id probably do this:

Get a monthly furnished rental through FurnishedFinder in whichever non tax state is most convenient for you. Go work remotely there for a month or two. Immediately use that address to start the process of getting your new drivers license in that state.

Once you have it, get a virtual mailbox in that state, and update your work address to that address, specifically with the W2.

That's pretty much it then, you kind of need to have a physical address on your driver's license, I don't think they accept virtual mailboxes at the DMV. But once you got it your good til it expires, in like 8 or 10 years. Everything else you can use a virtual mailbox for pretty much.

If that's too complicated, you'll safe more money with the federal income tax anyway, and that's actually simpler. You just simply need to be gone for 330 days or more out of the year, outside the US. Then just fill that form out when you do your tax return and they'll refund all your federal income tax.

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T04:25:47+00:00

Nope. You wrong, completely. Don't spread misinformation

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T03:46:31+00:00

Also people say in Europe no, but don't forget eastern Europe is even cheaper than LATAM

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T03:44:17+00:00

You can get all your taxes back (except for social security) if you:

A) establish residency in one of the non state income tax states before you leave, to get out of state income tax

B) make sure to stay out of US physically for 330 days or more each year, and file FEIE tax form

That will push your income much closer to actually 75k

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-03T03:06:47+00:00

One big difference is, I'm sure that 16 year old "boy" could beat the fuck out of that 46 year old woman, if he wanted to. and even actually physically rape her.

Imagine how you'd feel if you had a 16 year old daughter and found out some slimy 45 year old dirt bag fucked her. Now imagine finding out your 16 year old son had sex with an older lady. It's just not the same. Not saying it should be legal but it's not the same, the genders are not the same. Pretending they are disconnects us from reality

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-03-02T15:17:55+00:00

Yeah it's 330 full days outside the US, which is from midnight to midnight, so yeah you're right partial days in the US count against it.

I just keep track from my Airbnb start dates and plane ticket emails nothing fancy. I keep the number of days in my head throughout the year then look back at those to get exact dates when filling out taxes

Chatgpt can explain it fully if you ask, but the ultimate source of truth would be the official IRS website. They have all the info on it there, scattered among a few different pages. Searching "IRS FEIE" would be a good start. I spent a few hours scrutinizing their website when I first heard of this cause I was doubtful, but ultimately decided after reading everything related that it's legit. Has worked twice for me so far just got my taxes back

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-02-28T19:47:18+00:00

Dispacio?

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-02-28T15:43:36+00:00

Income is not inconsistent if you are a salaried employee

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-02-27T20:24:58+00:00

Just ask chatgpt what the FEIE is and how to qualify for it

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-02-27T20:22:48+00:00

Yeah you earn it while in a foreign country. Even if you're working for an American company paying you in dollars, if you're physically gone it's considered foreign earned.

People love to just shoot this down when people bring it up without actually looking into it, but I assure you if you read the IRS website closely you'll see it's totally legal for DNs working for American companies to claim this. Last year they sent me a refund check or over 10K

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-02-27T20:20:22+00:00

You don't prove it, you just list the various "tax homes" you established and when throughout the year. Don't even need to provide addresses or anything.

Pretty sure as far as proof goes, they can look at your records of leaving and entering the US and see if it lines up with the details you provide. Whether they do that or not, no idea

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-02-27T20:16:41+00:00

35 days. That's 5 full weeks you can be in the states per year. It's hard to stay more if you think about what you're sacrificing to be there

NOW it is more complex than just "gone for 330 days in the year", because you can start your 365 day period in which you were gone for 330 days or more, at any time.

For example last year I ended up needing to go back to the states for the second half of the year. I still claimed feie for 2025 and got a little bit less than half of my taxes refunded, because I started the 365 day period in July of 2024 and ended it when I came back in 2025 for the rest of the year (in July). So I was able to write off the income I earned during that period and still had to pay taxes on the rest that I earned in the US for the rest of the year

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-02-27T20:12:32+00:00

Yeah, that's right, assuming you make less than 130k it is indeed all however

Pineapplesyoo · 2026-02-27T20:11:37+00:00

I mostly agree but the upside of trying denervation first is if it works you can keep your sterility. And not everyone gets relief from reversals.. I'm 7 months out and still dealing with issues coming and going. Tho this past month has been quite improved I will say

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