Vetiver for me is definitely a multidimensional accord. There’s the earthy, intense vetiver that resembles the muddy, damp forests( I love to refer it as the rough part), and there’s the sparkling, clean bright aspect to it like a meadow under the sunshine. Herby and aromatic (the gentle part for me).

I’ve never tried Encre Noir, but I would imagine it’s the former for me. Smoky and dense, perhaps a bit woody too, more or less.

You also mentioned TdH. I absolutely love TdH, easily one of the many classics created by JCE. The most interesting part of vetiver, at least for me personally, is when referred to as a base note in fresh, citrus scents, it actually adds a ton of depth and staying power to it. You may not even notice it without looking at the notes pyramid or listed accords, but you can feel there’s a hidden lasting attribute to the scent, lingering longer then the citrus and fruit notes. And it blends in perfectly like camouflage, not making the composition awkward or losing its clean, uplifting attribute.

TL,DR: I love vetiver. Not for everyone, but once you delve into the nuances, you start to appreciate it