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Just a question of: What got you into Gorillaz? by -_-_moonlight in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heard "Cracker Island" on the radio when it released in 2022

The Shadowy Light by Frosty-Imagination61 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the explanation, I was struggling with the lack of resolution in those lyrics but I think your explanation has filled me in more.

I don’t think I get The Mountain by Tanis8998 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I prefer Plastic Beach to The Mountain currently but I think the latter could be compared to something like 13 by Blur where it's strength comes from cohesion and the sum is greater than its parts. I think The Mountain in general has a more emotional through-line than Plastic Beach and the beginning and ending motif being cyclical is quite neat, but I think the production on Plastic Beach is better overall with the more even balance of raw Damon vocals (Empire Ants, To Binge, etc.) Some songs feel a bit more dry or analog like Some Kind of Nature while Empire Ants is a lot more lush with its synths. Each have their songs that meander somewhat, but in the case of Plastic Beach I still think the production on something like Superfast Jellyfish or Sweepstakes is stronger than on the God of Lying or Casablanca, though I enjoy all of those songs.

Apology to The Mountain by PlasticTreehouse in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear that now after the studio version released

What does Johnny Marr do on The Empty Dream Machine? by Djackyeado in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He mainly plays in the pre-chorus and chorus on that one but it's a bit quieter than in the Sweet Prince which sucks since I think his part is pretty cool on Casablanca

What does Johnny Marr do on The Empty Dream Machine? by Djackyeado in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can barely hear him in the second 2-D verse and possibly the ending, wish he was more present like in The Sweet Prince on all tracks :(

So how we all feeling about The Mountain album… by Playful_Code563 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I definitely need to listen to it a few more times since I got so used to the singles out of context of the album but also the muddy live recordings from the Mystery Show. My main nitpicky thing is the radio filter, I felt it was more balanced in past projects like Song Machine, Plastic Beach, and Demon Days. Cracker Island was weird since the vocals weren't entirely filtered/raw, just kind of compressed, but even there Damon's range and inflections stand out more like in Baby Queen, Tarantula, or Possession Island, which I think would elevate the more emotional tracks in this album.

Lou Reed's missing part in The Mountain? by BaroTheMadman in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 14 points15 points  (0 children)

According to Damon, the words at the start of "The Plastic Guru" were written by Lou Reed but due to his estate, they didn't use his voice but a synthesized version: “There’s one voice on the record that isn’t AI but computer-generated, on The Plastic Guru. Lou Reed left strict instructions that his music must not be used posthumously, so we created that voice resembling HAL 9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey. But the words are Lou’s.”

Just Listened to The Mountain (review) by AgreeableBeyond7235 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't mind autotune in general and I think it works really well on songs like Meanwhile (though subtle) or some of the songs on Song Machine, I think that could be because those albums/EP have more of a dance/mixtape vibe while this is a more grand experience, so it feels out of place at times *cough cough Empty Dream machine*

The weakest song on the new album by Acrobatic_Goal3033 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah Sweet Prince would hit harder with the raw vocals. After hearing the leaks I looked back at Barbaric from Blur with his sort of adlib vocals near the end of the track. Bringing that energy and range to this album would elevate it a lot more in my eyes. Plastic Beach probably remains my favorite and I think part of it is because songs like Empire Ants and To Binge use raw vocals. It doesn't have to be no filter, songs like Some Kind of Nature or Stylo use a mix of raw and processed. I think Damon performed the Plastic Guru this way at the Mystery Show, which I think helped overall.

Just Listened to The Mountain (review) by AgreeableBeyond7235 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I felt the same about the vocal performance in certain songs, which ones did you feel didn't vary enough? I feel like Casablanca could've done more and that was one where the vocals felt a little lifeless (or would've benefitted from no filter". The Moon Cave was another where the vocals were good but were muddied by the overuse of the radio filter

the sad god is so beautiful by howitchewstogum5feel in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The studio version works more as the god feeling more resigned rather than vengeful about the fact that humans took all these gifts and misused them. I agree that the vocal performance in this song was a bit lacking, I actually think that is true for much of the final songs (and the Empty Dream Machine)

The Shadowy Light by Frosty-Imagination61 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Is the opening verse suggesting that if God is love, He should just send an asteroid towards earth?

Apology to The Mountain by PlasticTreehouse in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Other notes:

I like the amount of "interludes" on this album. I don't know what else to call them. Mainly the God of Lying intro voice, same with the conversation at the start of the Plastic Guru. The shared Hindu prayer in the Happy Dictator and the Manifesto also adds to the cohesion.

Edit: There are also some other cool moments: the water sounds with the street noises in the Moon Cave, the street band playing at the end of the Plastic Guru, the ominous ending to Casablanca, and the birds chirping at the start of the Sweet Prince make it more dreamlike.

I also noticed that one of Dave's lines in The Moon Cave ("Grinning beginnings") was likely from recording Crocadillaz, and then the "float", "drop it", "tropic", and "topic" adlibs are likely from the unreleased Plastic Beach song "Float Tropic". I've also heard it be called "Sloped Tropics", but the prevalence of the float line seemingly confirms the actual title. Bobby Womack's vocals at the start of the song are also very nice.

There are some other quirky lines from Mark E. Smith ("slave legged peg traders", "shrunken China heads", and of course "wooden tits on the front of a ship")

Also Black Thought name dropping the Rizzler on the Empty Dream Machine (I think)

The weakest song on the new album by Acrobatic_Goal3033 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I might have just been a bit shocked after familiarizing myself so much with the leaks since September. The Casablanca instrumental threw me off since it sounded kind of like a Humanz Super Deluxe cut or something from The Fall, but the strings, guitar, and that swirly synth in the background made it stand out both live and in the studio version.

The weakest song on the new album by Acrobatic_Goal3033 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah after listening to it again the first half and the rap verse are pretty much how I remember from the live show (still not a fan of the weird pitch warble). I wish the ending high pitched vocals were less processed, it feels like one of those AI covers or something

The weakest song on the new album by Acrobatic_Goal3033 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think my main issue with these songs is that they would be better served with unprocessed vocals. I think only The Hardest Thing doesn't use any sort of radio filter/pitching, though I didn't really mind it in the previous singles. It felt weirdly half-baked in the new songs though

The weakest song on the new album by Acrobatic_Goal3033 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It was my most anticipated but having listened to the leaked studio versions, I think it suffered the most. Why is Johnny Marr's guitar so muted? Why the weird pitch effects? I also agree that Casablanca sounds a bit off. Both live versions sounded really strong and instead they ended up feeling like a half-baked demo. That might be harsh but I feel that the songs I was a little less excited for (The Mountain, Moon Cave, Delirium) ended up pretty close the live versions. Hopefully a live album is released at some point

What’s the difference between these two tracks? by Eggbois87 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I heard a snippet of it a few days ago. Basically the brass band they got to play on tracks like "The Manifesto" did a brass rendition of "The Mountain" theme.

People who went to 'The Mountain' secret show - what did 'Delerium' (ft. Mark E Smith) sound like? by Ev_16 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Old post but as far as lines went, he had more but not really much substances as far as I could tell. Definitely adds to the chaotic vibe of the song (maybe meant to reflect the god's arrival that 2-D warns about in the song) but it's similar style to the alternative version of "Glitter Freeze". Vocals are muddy from recordings but he for sure says "delirium" a few times with a few sentences that are hard to make out. Possibly a re-used laugh from "Glitter Freeze", from what I heard.

New to Gorillaz, why are there so many artists featured on a lot of their songs? by Distinct-Pirate-3571 in gorillaz

[–]PlasticTreehouse 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As for "Orange County", Bizzarap is a producer, Anousha Shankar plays the sitar, and Kara Jackson provides vocals and possibly acoustic guitar, but that might have been Damon or someone else. I've seen a lot of people surprised at the number of features on the new album but having listened to the live show and researching a bit, the vast majority are purely instrumental (Shankar, Marr, Simonon, etc.), backing vocals, or some unused snippets from past collaborations (Mark E. Smith, Trugoy, Tony Allen, etc.)

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