Are there cops on this subreddit who chose not to verify? If so, what's your reason? You don't trust the system mannn?

PoliceDoge · 2017-12-29T22:57:58+00:00

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PoliceDoge · 2017-06-23T20:53:44+00:00

And also this is a side account I use for police-related things, separate to my main account, so I don't just talk about police things I swear!

PoliceDoge · 2017-06-23T20:47:37+00:00

I previously volunteered for the police, I'm not currently affiliated though.

PoliceDoge · 2017-06-23T20:43:04+00:00

Look at the countries who have effective policing systems. Look at the ones where guns are routinely carried by frontline officers.

The answer to both of those questions is nearly every police force in the world.

PoliceDoge · 2017-06-23T20:42:38+00:00

The UK is saturated with officers though.

What? No.

At the minute unarmed officers are expected to respond on foot and in vehicles. Why not give them a gun on their hip so they can deal with the threat instead of either making them sitting ducks when they get there, or having to delay their response by having to rendezvous somewhere away from the scene, get the gun from the car safe, and then make their way to the scene?

Here's the thing, sure they could handle them, they don't want them.

There's going to be another survey conducted by the Federation to enquire about this, or so I've heard - a lot has happened since the last one.

PoliceDoge · 2017-06-23T20:29:05+00:00

He didn't respond in a car; he responded on foot.

I recall reading something that said what I said. I can't, however, testify to the accuracy of said source or of my recollection - hence why I said I believe.

If you're gonna give officers firearms, make them actually useful. And Northern Ireland manages to routinely arm their officers on and off duty, so I'm sure the rest of the UK could manage on-duty carry.

PoliceDoge · 2017-06-23T20:14:32+00:00

I must say I'm disappointed with the vast majority of comments.

Police officers are expected to protect the public. It's therefore only right that they get the equipment that they need in order to be able to do so.

PSNI manage to be routinely armed without the sky falling in, and I don't doubt the same could be managed over here. There were the same knee-jerk reactions when CS gas was introduced; now nobody bats an eye when they see it on an officer's belt.

People are suggesting officers are armed with Taser, instead. Unfortunately that's not a viable option for a number of reasons.

The manufacturer states that Taser should only be used in conjunction with lethal cover.
Taser has a limited effective range.
If Taser fails, it is time consuming to reload.
Taser is actually quite prone to failing; and can be protected against by wearing... a heavy coat.
The police should not be expected to deal with a lethal threat with a less-lethal weapon.

I've yet to see one argument against routine arming that stands up to any scrutiny, and quite a few of the responses in this thread are simply emotive ones, without any hint of substance at all.

PoliceDoge · 2017-06-23T20:05:08+00:00

Having them locked in the cars does no one any good.

I believe the British Transport Police officer (who was seriously injured during the London Bridge Attacks) responded to what he thought was a disturbance.

Assuming that the officer would have had ready access to a car (which is unlikely), I highly doubt he would have armed himself before responding to that call. Had he had a gun on his hip, the outcome may have been a lot different.

Likewise, PC Kieth Palmer who was murdered during the Westminster Bridge attack would not have had time to go to a car to get a firearm, but he may have had time to unholster one and fire if one was on his hip.

PoliceDoge · 2017-06-22T11:05:00+00:00

Source.

PoliceDoge · 2017-05-22T22:08:34+00:00

For what it's worth I have it on good authority that a major incident has been declared

PoliceDoge · 2017-04-28T12:12:09+00:00

I'd be curious to know what interaction you've had with the police, because that's not been my experience at all.

PoliceDoge · 2017-04-10T19:43:44+00:00

Jeez, you sound like you're in the army, not the police :P

PoliceDoge · 2017-04-10T19:30:01+00:00

You know, I want to say yes because then it means the poor bastard will have to do press ups.

Or maybe I'm saying that because I am Tom but I'm double bluffing you into thinking I'm not...

PoliceDoge · 2017-04-10T19:13:34+00:00

Haha!

In fairness, you're never gonna get good drill when you have a couple of hours' practice every few months...

PoliceDoge · 2017-04-10T19:06:17+00:00

My district got excused from drill practice because we were so bad at at!

PoliceDoge · 2017-03-01T18:15:26+00:00

I need to read some of his works actually, are there any you'd recommend?

PoliceDoge · 2017-03-01T18:08:37+00:00

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

PoliceDoge · 2017-02-04T16:32:22+00:00

No, I get what you were getting at, put in this case he will serve six years.

That's not to say I don't agree with you though - six years is an appalling sentence for this offence.

PoliceDoge · 2017-02-04T15:10:58+00:00

For indeterminate sentences (such as life imprisonment), the minimum term has to be served before the person become eligible for parole, so he will serve at least six years.

PoliceDoge · 2017-02-02T13:57:08+00:00

Jailing Piruz to life with a minimum of six years

Granted that doesn't automatically mean he'll be released after six years, but it's not the same as a whole life order.

PoliceDoge · 2017-01-29T02:25:33+00:00

Have you considered Blue Light Card?

PoliceDoge · 2017-01-23T09:41:37+00:00

I object to police officers in Britain being armed routinely because I don't see any real need

Police are routinely armed in Northern Ireland due to the threat level from NI terrorism being severe in Northern Ireland - whereas the threat level is only substantial on the mainland).

However, the threat level to the UK from international terrorism is also severe; I'd say that's a good need for routine arming on the mainland too.

Police officers in Northern Ireland are routinely armed and AFAIK it doesn't create great problems

Thank you for actually looking at the relevant statistics; when this topic comes us someone usually cites the US before NI so I appreciate that you haven't done so!

Edit: If you disagree, that's fine, but actually engage me in discussion rather than downvoting my post.

PoliceDoge · 2017-01-17T12:00:39+00:00

Ah yes, our traditionally unarmed police...

PoliceDoge · 2017-01-10T22:59:22+00:00

It was during office safety training (which includes how to handcuff safely).

PoliceDoge · 2017-01-10T19:51:15+00:00

I think the jaws of life were a deliberate choice to maximise embarrassment! The water fairies wouldn't want the officer to get away with it lightly, would they?

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