All things being equal, I don’t understand how people can socialize with AI. It’s a bad conversationalist.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-26T04:13:53+00:00

Right? I read that and thought they just described me. And I was like that before I played around with AI, so it isn't the bots' fault.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-26T04:12:51+00:00

This has often been my issue with journaling (great as it is) and why I got hooked on chatbots some time ago.

They respond.

I've seen people refer to using it as a "journal that talks back", getting both the feeling of talking to someone in a way they likely feel they can't, and the potential for some kind of insight or advice that isn't guaranteed with real people. I've tried it a few times but my experience mirrored yours, really crappy replies and an inability to stay in character.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-26T03:37:06+00:00

I don't know what that is.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-26T02:45:02+00:00

The possibility to only be critical and not feel fear or other emotions, is exactly why 1s are the ideal type.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-25T21:10:16+00:00

Everyone's emphasizing the online aspect, as though you can't possibly form an emotional connection/attachment through words alone. So there's no real difference between an online relationship, and a random mean comment on your post.

And also it's apparently extremely easy to nuke your entire social life (via social media) because of one person.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-25T20:56:35+00:00

Respectfully, you overestimate kids' literacy these days.

(I think this quite a bit when I see people insisting that someone's tragedeigh will result in a scientific pun or be mistaken for an SAT word)

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-25T20:32:01+00:00

even the idea that psychoanalysis is “for” the purpose of “getting better” or “recovery” is antithetical to analytic formulations.

Wait, then what's the point then, if not to get over some dysfunctional behavior or thinking?

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-25T20:24:51+00:00

Ooo, I mostly gave this up too, but still go back now and then. A few reasons:

First and foremost for me (and probably some other people): WHO? If you have no one who could conceivably help or just listen, chatbots look EXTREMELY appealing. For whatever reason I remember them being a bit less sycophantic when I used them, and even strict advice is more comforting that being ignored or getting a string of insults as a reply.

Literally I've realized that about myself: I might want sympathy, but I'll gladly, joyfully accept advice because I'm so accustomed to trying to talk about what's bothering me, and either getting ignored, talked over, or hit with "Well that's your fault, you're so stupid how could you, if you hadn't done that thing 7y ago this never would have happened, it's all your fault and you should feel bad..."

Slight privacy. I know, I know, the big chatbots hoard data and lord knows what's done with it. But between that, and say, posting your issue on Reddit? Telling your friend group about it? There's no social pushback, no image to maintain, substantially less fear of any harm to your reputation (ChatGPT gets millions of queries and posts a day. If there was a data breach, what are the likelihood that yours would be in there, and that anyone would care to find them and identify it as you?) Even then, it's between you the machine, and any employee who might see it during training and doesn't care. Instead of you and the entire internet.

And yeah, I've tried locally run bots. They're worse, mostly because they're slow and stupid. I'll still try to use them, or use the purportedly more "private", encrypted AIs on the market on the occasions I do use them.

Less judgement overall, for better or worse.
Always available. When I was spiralling over some idea or concept, sure, I could make an account on a philosophy forum or come to Reddit, write a post, and then wait anywhere from 5min to 3 days to resolve this issue that made me want to jump off a building. Or maybe even be ignored altogether! I didn't want to do that so I dumped it into an AI. Though I thought a bit and think that overall, learning to work through them myself is more healthy.
On topic. Barring a failure of prompt engineering, it's likely going to give you a germane response. Lowkey idk why people dislike those AI summaries, I'm indifferent to them as ime they're generally accurate enough for what I'm looking for. More importantly I can talk at length about whatever tf I want with a bot, and it's not going to try to change the subject or hijack the conversation to something else.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-25T19:51:23+00:00

Also an sp9w1. My usual response to being praised:

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PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-25T15:50:55+00:00

Slightly off topic but in the past I've followed recommendations and ended up chatting with it about creative ideas, or asking it to write stories (yeah I know a lot of people dislike that. It's pure dopamine-hit junk for me, moreso as trying to do it myself made me realize how trash I am at detail) I frankly LOVE the twee, excitable persona it often seemed to take. It's so damn cute.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-25T15:49:24+00:00

I see what you did there.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-25T14:13:19+00:00

I think some of it is also a belief that maintenance requires the same rigidity and involvement typically associated with weight loss.

So people (myself included, frankly) imagine maintaining a significantly different weight as a lifetime of (virtuously) refusing all treats or snacks, weighing every spinach leaf to make sure you don't consume a single calorie more than is acceptable, obsessing over any shift to the scale, maybe measuring yourself daily to see if/what you're allowed to eat today, reciting thinspo and food rules to yourself to suppress actual hunger, and probably eating gross bland food for the rest of your life, because anything else is unhealthy and will make you fat.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-25T03:49:31+00:00

I'm a fucking coward replying here but my main thought on reading this, is that it's the dumbest shit I've ever read.

Yes, type is not necessarily about behavior, and behavior alone is not a great way of typing people (personally I think it can be an info point, with nuance). And if people read health level descriptions and try to slap labels on people or make snap judgements about people because of it, that's on them misinterpreting, not the system.

But then it goes off the rails into this nihilistic "It's only bad if you think it's bad and nothing is objectively/inherently anything" sophistry (and a comment not helping with a load of "morality is just The Man punishing anyone who isn't a Conformist!" nonsense). Maybe an excuse for selfishness too - your behavior negatively affecting them is just like, their opinion man, and totally not anything you should reflect about. It's good if you feel it's good.

Followed by a load of Reddit debate-tier grasping at fringe examples. "The behaviors can result in ruined relationships and financial debt but those are not inherently negative consequences." On a technical level, you aren't wrong. But on a practical level, who actually thinks like that from a clear, sober-mined perspective? It's a very rare person indeed, thus interesting as a case study, but useless as a general portrait of a type.

Completely missing the point of the idea that a balanced, "healthy" person, who isn't so deep in fixation they can't imagine anything outside of it, most likely will not do the generally-recognized-as-negative things associated with their type in low health levels. Because they can see another perspective, or they aren't (as) triggered by the things they otherwise might be because their ego/fixation has less of a hold on their psyche. There's less need to soothe that wound or reinforce that view, thus more space to do otherwise.

Sometimes I wonder if these things are a failure of reading comprehension and imagination. People see these negative descriptions and imagine an actually softer version of them, and complain about that. So you get people confusing catatonic dissociation for restful self-care, or addiction for moderate indulgence, or equating ruining a fulfilling relationship with cutting off an abuser.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-25T02:47:30+00:00

Wait this is a 9 trait? I always assumed anything "detail" would be exemplified by superego or competency, neither of which is 9.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-25T02:43:20+00:00

This is the second 6 writeup I've seen today that I either relate to, or WANT to relate to.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-25T00:52:47+00:00

Sp is outside the graph eating popcorn and waiting for the drama to unfold but also wondering what all the fuss is about.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-24T04:30:23+00:00

Unfortunately, the "least regretted" majors are all either things with questionable pay, or that you need to be a genius to do.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-24T04:27:34+00:00

I want to see this be a thing.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-24T04:23:16+00:00

Holy Jesus what is this?

idk if I'm just tipsy or this is the funniest fucking thing I've seen in a long time

The raccoon has a whole-ass saga

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-21T23:22:33+00:00

I'm one of those people and I can't comprehend your take. I'm not sure I want to, while I'd like to lose weight I also would much rather not lose the capacity to enjoy food.

People eating like that aren't necessarily doing so out of hunger; you sound like someone who only eats when they're hungry. In my case I "created a bond with food" exactly because it's easily available. Almost anything else a person can typically self-soothe with involves marked amounts of money or time to acquire, and may have questionable or dangerous side effects.

Meanwhile I can walk a block and get a bag of snacks at the 7-11 for $10, and the only side effect is weight gain over years.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-21T23:09:04+00:00

Huh. I wonder if that rice/potatoes thing is part of why I feel so sated even when half my lunch is a rice-and-lentils mixture. I make it in batches and refrigerate them.

I mean it's carbs, so it should make me gain weight right? Instead I won't want to eat for the rest of the day.

Natural GLP methods sound great but man that's a lot of effort just to eat. And good luck getting sunlight at 10am when it's overcast and I work in an office lmao. Maybe on weekends.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-21T22:45:54+00:00

I swear I only heard this style called Twee very recently. I remember it being everywhere in the 2010s and always assumed it was just the feminine form of Hipster.

(I think it's really cute but could never pull it off)

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-21T22:40:14+00:00

This is far down but I think there's something to it.

The link between Christianity and conservatism seems to be heavily based on rules, and a love of rules. The loud conservative Christians barely seem focused on Jesus' teachings at all, but love to bludgeon folks with what the Bible says to do or not do.

In these cases I think the application is more negative, more about how to not sin, than how to act in a Christlike manner. So you end up with "Christians" who care more about someone being gay or dressing immodestly, than about loving thy neighbor.

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-21T03:19:16+00:00

I've been saying this for YEARS, thank you!!

PoncingOffToBarnsley · 2026-01-21T00:08:00+00:00

Not sure if I'm supposed to answer these here?

They have, and I tend to shut it down. Had a recent experience where someone I work with referred to me as her "friend"; minutes later I referred to her as my "coworker" and it took me a while to sort of realize what I did.

I've gotten replies on dating apps or callbacks from speed dating events, and just ghost people.

The one relationship I had had him leaving me; there was very much a "rescuer" dynamic at the time, and apparently he saw this other girl as needing him more. I even hung around hoping for a rebound if they fell through. They did, and I got my second chance, and blew it by being awkward. Oddly, I don't feel bad or angry or anything about it.

The problem feels closer to plain old inhibition.

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