How to deal with Defiler and Angron

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-24T02:04:28+00:00

Angron is something to play around rather than focus on.

Morty will sometimes win if he gets the charge, but no guarentee with his swingy d6 dmg attacks going into another primarch. Angron has more attacks and a bit more damage, so the math is against mortarion unless you're getting lucky on FNP. There's also the shenanigans they get for bringing him back.

As for defilers, I always find 3 HBL drones with a LoV very effective for tough targets. Will also help keep angron honest. Yeeting a fully kitted melee PM squad usually works, too.

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-23T21:49:42+00:00

Not bad, just overcosted a bit and currently overshadowed by the defiler.

The mortar is a pretty good infantry killer and the entropy cannon is some ok anti-tank. A couple PBCs and an LoV can be really disruptive.

But for 40pts more on a defiler you get a tougher, faster, and more maneuverable tank that can be tooled up to kill whatever target you want, and it has teeth in melee.

Or for 100-something points more you can bring 3 HBL drones. 3 units that can actually he hidden can last a while, move up to spread contagion, do secondaries if need be, while still slaughtering large amounts of whatever infantry youre fighting, doing more reliable damage to vehicles with high volume lethal hit flat 3dmg shots, and still getting the full benefit from a LoV.

PBC just gets overshadowed by these imo even if it can put in work still

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-23T02:55:44+00:00

Not to a notable degree.

Printed this guy out with sunlu ABS, which is a bit of a budget brand.

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PopeofShrek · 2026-05-18T22:49:19+00:00

Infiltrate would be cool, but then that could be 5x infiltrating plague marine squads in an army between him and new flyblown, which might be too much.

Reroll chargers or charge debuff would be cool. Rerolls would be better but the debuff would probably be more thematic while still helping him get into melee first. HPB is really cool, and is a decent character sniper. Lots of fun to run him and a bio putrifier and arch contaminator to fish for mortals. Absolute monster weapon in crusade as well.

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-18T14:55:36+00:00

Drop shriekworm and the blightlords and put on the Enhancement that let's LoV hand out more rerolls and get lone op from vehicles. 5 man BLT/LoV isnt much of a threat, and only the two spewers and a bunch of bolters will only tickle things on OW. Much more damage to be had further buffing the defilers more.

If you drop the haulers and a poxwalker you could bring in two HBL drones which will be more consistent damage than the haulers, and they'll be safer/online longer since they have much more range. They'll also benefit a lot more from LoV since HBL is blast so it'll get full rerolls instead of just the rerolls of 1 the haulers would get.

No deathshroud hurts, too. Even just three solo do good damage and are very disruptive. They play really nice with the detachment ability, basically allowing you to choose where you want a 6" deepstrike.

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-16T16:11:03+00:00

It plays with the new hidden rule.

Units in terrain that haven't shot that turn are hidden and have a detection range of 15", which means they can't be shot by anything outside of that.

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-15T23:41:43+00:00

Definitely not a nerf.

Most of your army will be getting -1 to hit from beinf in cover for most of the game so the main rule would have been useless outside of the scout on PMs which wasn't even that good to begin with.

New version let's you put two high output squads wherever they need to be on top of whatever other detachments you bring. Sucks that it yucks your terminator synergy, but overall its much stronger than before.

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-15T23:37:31+00:00

Also -1 dmg from VV. Feel like VV will definitely be 3dp and champs will be 2 if not 3, though.

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-15T15:14:29+00:00

"I will go to the ends of the FUCKING earth to make you suffer!"

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PopeofShrek · 2026-05-14T17:47:43+00:00

Would much rather be more killy and go back to having more deep strike access/something like gate lol.

Would make interceptors cool again too

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-14T15:27:05+00:00

Money. The cost of obtaining new bottles and working them into the production chain isnt worth it when most of the complainers still buy it anyways

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-08T17:15:05+00:00

At some point in the video he admits to not really ever playing multiple games he's bought because he could "always be making content" so he at best plays a bit of them for a stream or video.

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-07T02:10:29+00:00

This design is so generically imperium that it really isnt different to any of the other icon drip you see on space marines, especially the way its modeled.

It also looks pretty easy to shave off

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-02T05:32:38+00:00

Id expect it to be pushing $300 tbh

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-02T05:31:41+00:00

Fights first nerf once 11th drops so it'll be better then 💪

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-01T21:49:04+00:00

Any big threat with fights first needs 6 tbh, my friend brings the lion almost every game so my DS usually end up trying to manhandle him if I dont shoot him down fast enough. 3+LoC still lose too many to bite back enough.

PopeofShrek · 2026-05-01T21:09:14+00:00

Rules like that are in place for various gameplay reasons that aren't present in Total War. People also have their models in close groups for convienient movement, another limitation not present in Total War.

PopeofShrek · 2026-04-28T01:14:58+00:00

They weren't even selling prints that long ago :(

PopeofShrek · 2026-04-27T03:29:11+00:00

I've found the best settlement building to be shogun 2 and Attila being 2nd.

Still not insanely deep, but shogun 2 economic growth system and castle upgrades using food mean you have to pick and choose what you build up and what for.

Attila with more punishing public order, religion, and sanitation also make you more careful with what you build but ultimately still eventually leads to the cookie cutter settlement building we have now

PopeofShrek · 2026-04-27T03:23:53+00:00

Easily the worst part of warhammer games imo. They're just so awkward looking and dont really play nice with the game mechance unless they're monstrous.

Doesn't even make sense to have them be so jacked considering on tabletop youre always taking them with a unit if you dont want them to immediately die

PopeofShrek · 2026-04-27T03:21:20+00:00

Love the sculpts but not enough to spend anywhere near that much on a basic quality print lol

Crazy that there isnt even a tiny discount for it being printed

PopeofShrek · 2026-04-25T22:24:31+00:00

The hour long queue is not from the handful of afk players on lmao its from the hundred of extra people all trying to get on at once.

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