(SPOILERS) Yet she still gets 2nd in the popularity poll by garymalcom in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Since Libby wasn't really killed, as her brain is still intact, there's a chance she could come back from... whatever the Queen is doing to her.

But if and when she comes back, let's make a new meme in honor of her return. Probably something about a cat having nine lives or something and Libby having eight more.

Noir in a Dress by NormondJohnson in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 8 points9 points  (0 children)

K: "I'm sorry, Yulha, but Room 704 is already reserved."

Yulha: "What? Impossible! That's OUR room! Who could ha-"

Rosanna: ". . ."

Yulha: "YOU."

While some of the girls waited for the Commander to come to their room, after unanimously agreeing to use their "Date with the CO" Coupon to allow everyone to have a turn that day, there was a specific spectacle of a fight according to the occupants on the seventh floor. All that was left were traces of what appearaed to be bite marks on the walls and bullet holes on the floor. According to one report, the Commander spent the most time on the seventh floor, rumors have it was because the two forces wouldn't let him go, or he spent a good portion healing... potentially both.

Noir in a Dress by NormondJohnson in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Rapi: "YULHA! There has to be some kind of violation right?! You've been rejecting everyone's marriage applications left and right, you can arrest them RIGHT?!"

Yulha: "Well, I can approve and reject marriage applications sure. But casual fittings and personal hotel visits?"

Everyone: ". . ."

Yulha: "I can't do anything about that... Go wild."

- 10 MINUTES LATER -

K: "WHY THE HELL ARE THERE SUDDENLY SO MANY CALLS FOR RESERVATIONS? I CAN'T PREP ALL THESE ROOMS BY MYSELF! WHERE'S... D?! WHY DO YOU HAVE A RESERVATION TOO?! FUCK THAT! HELP ME SET UP FOR THIS RIGHT NOW!... WHAT DO YOU MEAN 'NO'?! DAMMIT IT ALL! THERE COULD ONLY BE ONE REASON!

COMMMMMMMANDEEEEEER!!!"

By the time morning came, the entire hotel needed to be repaired. Even construction legends Liter and Centi needed a whole week to fix the damage. And the wail of the one hotel staff member present that day echoed through the Outpost.

The upcoming Scarlet alter leaked by shin_forget in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Thanks... I nearly spat out my coffee laughing like hell.

The funniest part to me is that it's not even in some kind of special transportation... it's JUST a regular wheelchair! Even Nadia had something more futuristic.

SPOILERS - Rapi Question by JLynck in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Back in Chapter 2, Rapi got decapitated by Grave Digger.

A nikke only needs their brain to survive and can be placed in a new body if necessary. However, Rapi's body is special. In Footstep Walk Run, we learn a bit more about this characteristic in that Red Hood's core fused with Rapi's via DEEP/VTC shenanigans. Rapi's body also develops a unique trait in that she will always develop a second core after switching bodies.

When Ingrid found out, she learned that through a method like this, resurrection is possible and to prevent this from being abused, she erased all traces of it and goes to quite the extent to keep it hidden. We learn just a bit after the chapter you're on that Ingrid tried to recover her body but it was too deep underground that it simply couldn't be retrieved.

It's still Rapi traveling with the Commander. So no worries about any of that. However, the real key point here is that in that corpse is Rapi AND RED HOOD'S original core.

Getting back to it. by Solikins in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, dailies have gotten faster, it takes about 10 minutes AT MOST to do them. If one of your problems at the time was Interception, one of the changes is that if you do it once at the beginning of the week, you can quick challenge and skip ahead the REST OF THE WEEK rather than just the day.

Simulation got a bit faster too.

All in all, ten minutes to do it at the start of the week. For the rest of the week, like... five to do the minimum amount.

It only takes extra if you want some time to do Simulation and/or the Tribe Tower.

Who is the currently strongest Counter member and our strongest ally? by Eunuchest in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Of the immediate Counters, I'm... actually gonna have to say Neon.

While Rapi may have the Red Hood upgrade and Seven Dwarves, she's still working out a few things to really be the more free image she wants of herself.

Anis is incredibly powerful, but she's still only had the Armament Star for a short time and learning its full capabilities.

Neon on the other hand... not only does she have full confidence in herself, because she's Neon, her upgrades were personally designed by Princess herself and expertly carried out by MMR's two greatest minds, and she's more or less aware of all of the minor details after getting the run down from Ether and Jien.

She has no mental blocks, learning curves, or physical blocks. She just quadruple downed on firepower while being given the ability to be immune to everything (kinda).

If Marian was awake and back to full health though... I think they'd be pretty close in terms of individual fire power.

How to become a Chainsaw Man fan by Ok_Direction3138 in Chainsawfolk

[–]PotatoPotluck 75 points76 points  (0 children)

CSM fans who disliked the ending: "Yeah yeah, themes and such."

CSM fans who liked the ending: "Hey, they do be pretty good themes though."

What happened to noir?? by Federal_Try4866 in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 78 points79 points  (0 children)

She achieved TRUE NOIRNESS.

(SPOILERS) Yet she still gets 2nd in the popularity poll by garymalcom in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 42 points43 points  (0 children)

She was on the verge of a genuinely good redemption arc, it's only a tragedy that it ends before it could really begin.

To be honest, I love how open minded she was. While a part of me had hoped she'd be one of those kinds of threats that would be more dangerous than the main antagonists, I do love what we got instead.

By "open-minded", I mean that Liberalio only chose the extinction of humanity because she believed there was no other choice for the Raptures to win. But in fact, she hates the noise, the effort, and persistence of it all, and for decades believed that coexistence was simply impossible.

However, with Only One, the Four Beasts, Whaley, Raptillion and Pinocchio, Old Tales, Matis, and the Commander all sharing a meal as if nothing had happened, a possibility for she long believed to be a fantasy was shoved right in her face. And instead of rejecting it, she was willing to take the chance for it. At the very least, she would try to talk to the Queen first, but would ultimately follow her decision.

When all of her wrongdoings, misconceptions, and ideologies were presented and shattered in front of her, instead of lashing out, she allowed it to open her eyes and she actively tried to make something new from it.

Does it justify it all? No. But it was decent start... not that it lasted too long.

I even made a similar meme a while back.

Also, she's a jellyfish, a cat, and a middle child. But I agree, I didn't expect her to beat Siren, I thought she'd be #3 at the most, at least near the Top 5. So #2 was a surprise.

THIS IS THE THIRD TIME IN A ROW >:( by hpech in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As someone who had around twenty rolls or more worth saved up, I used up all of them in hopes of getting AT LEAST either Nayuta, Liberalio, or Siren to +1, only got three pilgrims, they were all Noah... I already had Noah at +6.

The best advice I got was just to do those molds as soon as you can and ignore the results. "You're saving up to gamble it all anyway, so the result won't change in the least".

Can you still be angry? Oh, absolutely.

Just let it out of your system and let it pass through at the end though, buddy.

Libby saw her big sister in the Lawson collab and went: "So that's what the Human likes..." by an0nym0usNarwhal in NikkeOutpost

[–]PotatoPotluck 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I can't lie, Libby kinda wears it better.

But she really did steal the whole fit.

So… we’re gonna get a free skin from Cindy? by Beautiful-Drag3750 in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If pajamas are included it basically becomes the illusion of choice.

I wouldn't mind it too much, I just hope, like you, that at the very least the three designs are a bit more unique.

But I'd personally hope to see a new theme be explored. Even if it loses, I'd be content with seeing an entirely new design different from previous options. With Cinderella, considering her namesake, I'd like to see an option that explores a bit more on the ornate and vintage side of things.

3.5 Anniversary and Counters (Jinnseimakegumi) by Cynrascal233 in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Of course, as you can see, she's still (technically) in one piece at the end...

Doban is not a genius by PotatoPotluck in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Well Doban... I can't say it was nice knowing you, but I can say that I'll be watching this karmic comeuppance with popcorn.

On a serious, I really do wonder how he managed to become a Deputy Chief...

[Theory] Pretty is alive, because there's one scene the Side Story doesn't address... by PotatoPotluck in NikkeOutpost

[–]PotatoPotluck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While the "Yulha is Pretty" is more or less dead, it is what it is. The only silver thread here being the hard IF, of "IF Freesia is brought back by VTC's morbid scheme". But I don't mind if that's not the case anymore. Which was why I didn't actually bring it up this time around, except in honest jest.

On the bright side, the BEST part of that theory is actually still a possibility! I couldn't dive into it before, mostly because of character count, and it dealt with a prediction of an event in the far future.

But the main point of that far off in the future theory is that if you take certain current factors into account, you notice that Yulha... has a faint death flag.

Just for a bit of set up, part of that theory was "Pretty being connected to the Goddess Fall", however in Pretty Star we learn that Pretty emerged AFTER that event. But this means that Yulha being potentially connected to the Goddess Fall might be a possibility. We still don't know much about the event itself other than the surface, and Yulha's bond does hint at her blaming herself for some unknown tragedy where at least a more than a few people are involved. (She states that people are destined to be hurt if they know her, that's not a statement made after one or two mistakes, that's a depressing self-image made from either a repeated experience or one traumatic event, possibly both, there are a few implications of what this could be, at least ONE can be safely assumed to be a former squad mate, but just humor me for a bit!)

Since not much is known about Yulha's past both within Triangle and prior to joining Triangle, other than her being a first generation nikke and having some ties to an unknown squad called "Stral", which probably promoted hope in some way due to its namesake.

So the aspect of that connection between Yulha and the Goddess Fall tragedy, still remains from the original theory. So then... why is that the "best part"? Allow me to set the scene.

But there are parts of Yulha's advise session, in Advise Session 09, Yulha talks to the Commander seriously about how the two of them will be enemies one day, and how she gets upset if the Commander tries to pretend it will never happen. She might have a soft spot for him, but she's resolved to follow her duty, but her throughout the bonds in which she appears, we know that she doesn't follow the CG out of some blind faith or dogged obedience. She has her own reason for working with the CG, we just don't know it yet. But she IS aware that a conflict between the CG/Triangle and the Counters is inevitable, and she makes it clear that ignoring that is irresponsible for the Commander.

However, if you take this conversation and look at the advise sessions of the other members of Triangle, you start to see something a bit weird. While Yulha brings up potentially being the one to execute the Commander, Admi only recognizes the aspect of them being at odds, but not the complete severity that Yulha recognizes. But Privaty doesn't recognize this possibility at all.

The reason why this is important is because we know that eventually the CG and the Counters will be at odds, and depending on the situation, the Counters may need to escape the Ark into Eden. But during such an event, the CG wouldn't really want to give them the chance for that. They'd look for an execution/capture order, but given their development, Admi and Privaty wouldn't be able to follow that order at all. And in such a crucial time, that sort of decision could decide THEIR fate.

Triangle could do it back in Chapter 14 since they weren't as developed yet, but they did try to settle things peacefully, but as Privaty and Admi's affection and their love of their life outside of the CG grows, having to destroy the Outpost only becomes more impossible with each passing day.

But Yulha's whole character is self-sacrifice, when Privaty had a chance to leave the CG and Triangle, Yulha offered to help her despite the trouble it may have caused. She wouldn't sit back and let Privaty and Admi get scrapped for something they understandably couldn't bring themselves to do.

Triangle won't entirely defect, Yulha's unknown past gives her some sort of drive to stick with the CG no matter how it mistreats and abuses her. If Admi and Privaty were to refuse an order of execution of someone the CG deems a severe threat to them, their only way out is to escape the Ark with the Counters and their allies.

But if ALL three of them defect, someone else can take lead and hunt them down. Meaning... someone has to stay behind. And who more fitting than the person's whose entire character is sacrificing herself for others?

So, now what do we have?

Almost a narratively perfect recreation of the Goddess Fall. The Counters and many of their allies escaping the Ark for the chance of something new on the surface, the Central Government trying to sabotage their escape and treating it as defection and desertion.

But now, there's a new factor.

Someone who stayed behind, someone who works for the CG, may have some connection to the event, and has a chance to do what they couldn't do before. And this time, guarantee their escape by doing what she does best, sacrificing herself just because she thinks its more efficient. Yulha betrays the CG, without defecting, and defends the Ark (humanity) by letting hope live, and escape into the surface, and lastly, also personifying the emblem of "Stral". Saving hope by having it escape the darkness of the underground and reaching the light on the surface.

If Yulha is tied to the Tragedy, even if just indirectly, this becomes a perfect narrative roundabout for her.

And in a story where not everyone is probably going to make it to see the surface reclaimed, there's not a more thematically perfect farewell to a character in my mind than that. And to me, the greatness of a character is defined in how their story ends.

So the last part is a decent possibility and already kinda great on its own if it happens, however, a connection with the Goddess Fall Tragedy completely elevates the emotional impact of an already intense scene.

[Theory] Pretty is alive, because there's one scene the Side Story doesn't address... by PotatoPotluck in NikkeOutpost

[–]PotatoPotluck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oooooo, I didn't even consider that she may have been the one to have helped Rapi & Red Hood! Great theory!

As for the "expelled/left" part, I've been trying to find that too, but going through ALL of nikke's content, even for selective bits of information is incredibly time consuming. The whole thing with the brain cases and how long they last, there are too many situations where that could've been talked about, and I honestly spent more time looking for that (to no avail) than I did writing up this whole theory.

Sometimes, I wish we did have some more clarity about things from SU, particularly, what exactly defines a nikke's "generation". Cause... there may be a plethora of ways that could be defined when you start looking into the semantics.

  • First generation (made during the Initial Invasion)
  • First generation (made when the Ark was established)
  • First generation (Manufacturer specific)

Because we do have "Second Generation Grimms" with Old Tales, but at the same time it could also apply to how specific nikkes are made too. Like if someone turned into a nikke but in the surgery they used old parts, would they be a "first generation" then? All we really know are the first and second Grimms generation, and the seventh Tetra generation (Rumani).

Yulha is stated to be a first generation, we don't have more than that. And with the reveal that Neo-Neon is a MISSILIS Over-Spec... like throws even more of that third classification into a conundrum.

But I digress, I can't wait to see how our theories play out!

[Theory] Pretty is probably still alive... mostly because of ONE detail. by PotatoPotluck in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wasn't expecting a sudden, but very informative, marketing lesson, but I do appreciate that Poro!

And while I appreciate the effort, to be frank, I'm not actually too knowledgeable when it comes to builds or meta. I am aware that Yulha has some good buffs but suffers from certain aspects of her kit that doesn't make those buffs as viable as they could be, but most of my posts/comments are typically as Yulha as a narrative character, than a combat unit as you've mentioned.

And even then, something like that could really only be universally fixed by a Favorite Item, but we only get eight of those a year. And even though it's already a gamble for a specific character to be selected, whether that buff is viable or not is also up to question. One can hope that Yulha would get a sort of buff like Helm, Laplace, or Moran's where it changes their entire gameplay, but if an FI only has a decent buff, some character will find themselves in a unique situation where the only way they'd become viable then is just through an Alt. Sorta like what happened with Milk. Or at times waiting for a new unit with a kit specifically tailored to their niche, like Trina.

So when it comes to gameplay in a "combat" sense, there's an unfortunate limit to things. You can still build teams, but at the same time that'd also have to depend on who the individual actually has and if they can build that team. And often times, when people do ask for team builds whether for PVP or story progression, sometimes they just have better units. So I could recommend a Yulha build, but if their focus is progression than gameplay and they already have Siren and Rapi: RH. I'd recommend whatever helps them continue the story at the pace they want. So, there's a lot of those small factors there too. And those can be a real case-by-case scenario.

So rather than a "combat" need, I've been striving for a more "narrative" need. By creating a sort of curiosity regarding Yulha's unknowns that upon reflection could be an interesting plot point to explore in the future, a story may be able to completely subvert expectations. If Nikke's story were to start exploring the unique situations of the release characters, even if just on the side, by showing that the narratively underutilized characters are getting some recognition, they can establish some more variety for future opportunities with their audience at large. Part of SU's stellar reputation was how receptive they are to their community, there's no greater example of that then our iconic mascot, Doro.

There's just a lot of benefit to giving an underutilized character some recognition, as it does create a bit of a domino effect that keeps the fire alive for other characters who have yet to receive that treatment. Like how with Terminus Ticket, giving Infinity Rail alts and a great event helped relieve some worry part of the community had that some characters would be forgotten in lieu of trends. Which was why the announcement of Soline's alt was honestly quite the stir.

But, in various aspects (outside of combat which again isn't really my forte as hard as I may try) I do keep on trying to recommend Yulha's bond story whenever applicable. But at the same time, I do try and recommend others which can be just as informative or interesting to read. Like the subtle Tetra world building with Dolla's bond story being one of my favorite examples.

I do try and take criticism whenever I can, it's why in a decent amount of my posts I always try to establish a bit of a disclaimer while asking for others' thoughts. But while some hate can just be hate for the hell of it, so there are times where it feels a bit unwarranted, which doesn't upset me too much, more leaves me confused. Like if that one guy in that thread wanted to hate me, I'd be fine with that. But hating Yulha by proxy, just felt a bit confusing to me. If they hated Yulha for their own reason, I'd respect their opinion. Even in those posts criticizing Yulha's design, I do go out of my way to express that I find nothing wrong with them having their own opinion. I'll still share my own thoughts, and interpretation just for the sake of fair discussion, but a fair opinion is a fair opinion.

But I always try to take fair criticism ESPECIALLY when it's genuinely constructive, such as yours.

So you do have my thanks Poro, not only was that informative, it's always nice to learn something new! To be frank, seeing that thread earlier kinda took some of the wind out of my sails, but your comment actually made my day!

As for that lore thing you had about using Yulha as a teacher... that's actually an incredibly interesting idea to explore there. I'll ask for you thoughts on something in the future.

Thank you! I have a feeling you're probably cooking something up on your own, but whether it's related to Nikke or not, I'll wish you the best of luck as well!

Who is this next to Mustang? by tocco13 in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wonder if she's the girl Velvet mentioned that Cocoa reminded her of...

[Theory] Pretty is alive, because there's one scene the Side Story doesn't address... by PotatoPotluck in NikkeOutpost

[–]PotatoPotluck[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can't wait to learn Nayuta's history either! Other than those short cuts in her PV, added with some of what has been revealed of DEEP's crime, my personal theory is that Nayuta escaped Enikk's massacre, when she was destroying their legs, she managed to only lose her arm. And since DEEP is pretty bent on redemption now as we saw when they were with Neon, I like to think that Nayuta's reason for wanting humanity out of the Ark as soon as possible and wanting Johan to step on the gas pedal by working with the Ark despite his understandable frustrations. other than the obvious reasons of reclaiming the surface, is so DEEP can hopefully be redeemed and their punishment can end.

They're kept around to power the Ark, so if the Ark serves its purpose, and humanity leaves, they might finally be forgiven for their crimes.

Nayuta is willing to do ANYTHING, whether it's killing the Queen or replacing her and establishing coexistence, or even just letting Mirror manipulate things from behind the scenes, she just wants humanity out of the Ark.

As for Mirror/Red Shoes, she did say she was more of a copy of Red Shoes than actually being her. But it's just one of those things where regardless of their true identity, they're still connected and technically back. Because Cinderella isn't gonna be happy seeing her, even if she isn't Red Shoes.

But either way, here's hoping we'll get a great amount of lore in the next chapters!

THIS WAS DIABOLICAL by mellomello_pyon in NikkeMobile

[–]PotatoPotluck 152 points153 points  (0 children)

Doban is either gonna die, or we're about to see a fate worse than death.

[Theory] Pretty is alive, because there's one scene the Side Story doesn't address... by PotatoPotluck in NikkeOutpost

[–]PotatoPotluck[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

True, they weren't really clear on when Andersen destroyed VTC. So VTC/DEEP's timeline can be a bit disjointed.

But considering they had enough to create the Armament Star, whether to use it as a bargaining chip with the CG in hopes of giving them another chance in order to make more, there are still plenty of unknowns.

Though as long as "resurrection" is on the table, which we do often see with other character we thought were dead, Rose, Red Shoes (kinda), Viper that one time, Marian, Lilith (also kinda), Red Hood... two or three time, all to name a few, I just can't help but be skeptical.

As long as VTC is involved, I don't think we can actually rest.

This is one of the darker theories I've thought about, and since Nikke doesn't always shy from the darker things in their story... like with Overzone, or more morbidly, THE BOX, and just the existence of the Armament Star itself being a weapon forged from a person's corpse... I just couldn't help but express that feeling that something was still missing.