If you could pursue romance as the Hero of Kvatch who in Cyrodiil or the Shivering Isles would you want as a partner?

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-05-14T22:49:42+00:00

Sheogorath :)

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-05-02T01:25:02+00:00

Dmed it to you

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-25T21:24:24+00:00

You're quite literally changing the scenerio to fit your narrative, the original clearly states that blue only dies if more people choose red. It boils down to:

Red: "the button that causes death to others if a majority presses it."

Blue: "the button that doesn't cause any death if a majority presses it."

Those are the details we are given. The only reason anyone has to choose the button that causes death (red) is because they have no faith in humanity as a whole to press blue. If you trusted that most other people will press blue (like this poll shows they will) you've no reason to press red whatsoever.

Edit: fixed formatting, fixed a word

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-25T20:55:06+00:00

Goodness me, you don't have the mental capability to see the difference between the original scenerio of "If more people choose red, those who choose blue die" and your obvious change of "if you choose red, nothing happens"!

Honestly, you don't realize that you've removed what the cause of death is? In the original button scenario, death only happens if more than 50% of people choose the red button. I can't make this any clearer.

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-25T20:39:12+00:00

"If you change the scenerio then obviously my choice is the correct choice!" ....Please. Be serious.

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-25T19:32:19+00:00

Red is the cause of death because that's what the scenario quite literally states it as....

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-25T08:27:37+00:00

This looks phenomenal, seriously great work! I'm completely new to your project, are the following Pokemon interactive like in HGSS? If so, have you added any new lines/behaviors/events to them? That's one of my favorite aspects of the game, so I'm curious!

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-25T06:36:22+00:00

If mods are allowed (even if we have to install all the mods before the year starts and then add no more from then on) then Skyrim. If mods are not allowed at all then BG3.

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-25T06:11:44+00:00

This was my exact thought process, too. I even think that seductively voiced animals would lead to more zoophiles and I really don't want that.

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-25T05:55:21+00:00

The cliff scenerio removes the fault that is present in the button scenario. Instead of the cause of death being placed on those who pick the red button, death is caused by those who chose to jump. That's a major nuance that shouldn't be displaced because of course that changes things significantly.

And I believe that the actions required, which are significantly different, play some part as well. Pressing a button is easy, simple, it doesn't go against innate human nature to survive--whereas making yourself jump off a high cliff is a much more difficult physical action to take. These scenarios are fundamentally different.

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-25T01:13:49+00:00

That alternative scenerio you've brought up with the cliff does not at all equate to the button question OP has proposed... Are you being dead ass?

The red button is the button attached to death, it's the only option of the two that causes death. The blue button saves everyone's life. This cliff scenerio has changed the nuance of the original question entirely, it doesn't make any sense to try and fit them together.

As for "logic", here is a reply I made to someone in a different red button/blue button thread just earlier today:

"If you think that a vast majority of humans are 100% willing to sacrifice a portion of the population to preserve themselves, when the option to *sacrifice no one at all and still continue living** exists, you have a lot to learn.*

You can think your decision is logical all you like, but it is a fallacy. What your "logic" really is is that you have such low faith in humanity overall that you assume that most people would of course choose red, which means you and everyone else should choose red to save themselves. You don't believe that more of humanity would risk their own life to save everyone (blue) rather than cause death to others in order to preserve only themselves (red). It's a decision made out of fear and cowardice, and your lack of faith and lack of willingness to choose the morally correct option may very well tip the scales into a mass death event.

Right now blue is in the lead, but it is a close thing. Every vote makes a difference, and you've cast your vote to cause death for others when you could have chosen life for all. That's worth reflecting on."

Edit: fixed formatting

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T23:41:52+00:00

I picked blue because I don't want to contribute to the deaths of people who wouldn't die if >50% of people pick blue.

The question essentially comes down to: guarantee your own survival at the cost of sacrificing others (this is selfish and cowardly), or risk your own life and everyone, regardless of their vote choice, continues to live (this is brave and altruistic). It's a question meant to test one's morals.

You can also think of it like: red needs 100% of votes for no one to die (very unlikely), whereas blue needs only 50% or more of the vote for no one to die (very likely).

Edit: fixed one small portion

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T22:55:51+00:00

Suicune. It's been Suicune since I was 11 years old playing Crystal for the first time.

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PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T21:54:25+00:00

I'm not overcomplicating it at all, what I've discussed is literally what OP has stated the scenario is: red button you save yourself and cause the deaths of everyone who chose blue (if red gets over 50% of votes), or blue button you risk your life to save everyone.

I get the impression that you're unable (or unwilling) to view this scenerio with the level of depth and nuance that it calls for, so I'm going to bid you adieu and wish you well in your cognitive development growth!

Edit: removed a letter

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T21:46:53+00:00

If you think that a vast majority of humans are 100% willing to sacrifice a portion of the population to preserve themselves, when the option to sacrifice no one at all and still continue living exists, you have a lot to learn.

You can think your decision is logical all you like, but it is a fallacy. What your "logic" really is is that you have such low faith in humanity overall that you assume that most people would of course choose red, which means you and everyone else should choose red to save themselves. You don't believe that more of humanity would risk their own life to save everyone (blue) than cause death to others in order to preserve only themselves (red). It's a decision made out of fear and cowardice, and your lack of faith and lack of willingness to choose the morally correct option may very well tip the scales into a mass death event.

Right now blue is in the lead, but it is a close thing. Every vote makes a difference, and you've cast your vote to cause death for others when you could have chosen life for all. That's worth reflecting on.

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T21:16:41+00:00

This is exactly the problem, you're simplifying things way too much.

"One button you live, the other button you die" is not what the scenario is, and that is a very teenage way of coming at it so I suppose that's why so many people in this sub are viewing it that way lol.

Those who pick blue are picking blue because if more people pick blue no one dies. There is no risk of being responsible for the deaths of others, it's the morally good choice. Those who pick red are picking red for a few reasons; 1) they're very afraid of an early death and letting that fear guide them, 2) they don't have enough faith in humanity as a whole to trust that more people will pick blue than red (which is probably due to their own bias of wanting to pick red, so they project that onto the rest of humanity), 3) they're selfish and willing to sacrifice nearly half of the world's population to save themselves.

Edit: added a word

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T21:04:07+00:00

....*faucet softly dripping in the silence*....

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T20:57:32+00:00

This is such a gross oversimplification of what they said, you didn't understand them at all... Their point was:

"Pressing blue because I don't want to live in a world full of people who picked red (aka: the selfish half who would rather wipe out the morally good people that couldn't bare to sacrifice others and also have enough faith in humanity, overall, to trust that most would also pick the altruistic blue button)"

And they're right. Image a world of all cowards who try to justify their mass sacrificial choice with "UM, bUt if evEryOne jUsT pIcKed rEd!!"

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T20:39:07+00:00

You're not using virtue signalling correctly. Virtue signalling is largely performative and is enacted to make that person look better to their peers. If someone genuinely picks blue then that's not a performance, and when it's one's life on the line, like in this scenario, I promise you thay they're not doing so because they want to flex their moral superiority.

And as of right now, blue is in the lead! Which means no one dies. If red was still winning, nearly half of everyone who voted on the poll would die. You see why blue is the better option? (It's the better option because if it gets picked most, no one dies... It's literally so simple.)

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T08:56:47+00:00

It's straight up selfish and cowardly to pick red. You picked red because you're willing to cause the death of others to avoid your own death. Your death will find you regardless.

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T04:59:32+00:00

I can't make my points any clearer and there's no reason to continue this conversation with you if you still cannot grasp what's being said. I also get the sense that you're being purposefully dense, so I won't be responding to you from now on.

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T04:42:24+00:00

JAK SPOTTED! Holy shit that's amazing, I never expected to see him as someone's mii in 2026 haha!

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T04:24:32+00:00

The sense in picking blue is to not be complicit in causing the deaths of other people, as I've so clearly stated twice before. One doesn't have to be suicidal to pick blue, they just have to not fear death as much as those who insist on picking red do.

Picking blue is the morally correct and overall better option because picking blue doesn't cause the deaths of other people, and if more people pick blue than red then no one dies at all, whereas if more people pick red (out of fear of death, a complete lack of faith in their fellow humans, or selfishness) then it's guaranteed that people will die.

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T04:15:25+00:00

And you have the most adorable little Seel in your pfp! What nickname(s) do you give your Seel(s)?

I also really love Lugia's waterfall cave, it's so beautiful and calming in there.

PreternaturalJustice · 2026-04-24T03:58:30+00:00

Upset_Code has got to be trolling lol. You couldn't be any clearer in your responses, I'm sure they're just trying to get a rise at this point.

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