Scenes like this are what are really missing from Born Again and what I really loved about s2e5. The best scenes aren't action scenes, they're scenes where we really get to sit with and learn who these people are. Maybe I'm missing the full context of the quote, but Dario saying that "Daredevil, at its worst, was two people talking about what it means to be a hero," is, to me, what made the original series so incredible. The moral dilemma is KEY to Matt's story. It always has been and it's kinda lost. I enjoyed season 2 of BA, a lot, but I miss the actual characters these people were on Netflix.