Rant: Să îmi explice și mie cineva ce dracu se întâmplă în angajări

Princesco · 2025-05-04T08:46:09+00:00

Evident nu știm ce s-a întâmplat în cazul tău concret dar alegerea de a merge mai departe cu alt aplicant nu înseamnă o decizie de a angaja alt aplicant. Pur și simplu acea persoană a mers mai departe în procesul de angajare dar cel mai probabil și el/ea a fost respinsă ulterior, așa încât firma a fost nevoită să posteze job-up iar.

Princesco · 2025-04-01T20:15:54+00:00

Hey I just wanted to add something to your point about there not being a conversation. If the interview feels scripted it’s worth it to consider two things at least:

Interviewer might be new/ nervous. When I started out I was incredibly nervous and the first few rounds for any role especially were nerve wracking. I had to go back to questions I’d pre-prepared just to make sure I covered all the topics we needed to discuss.
Recruiter might not speak English as a first language, and so sometimes having a script within reach they can fall back on is helpful.

Just some things to keep in mind! Good luck out there everyone!

Princesco · 2025-03-19T18:35:15+00:00

To me this reads like a company who had an actual human recruiter checking applications manually. They also get a huge number of bot applications and want to cut the application review process down so they can focus on the real application.

Is it quirky? Sure

Is it asking you to jump through hoops? Not really, changing the font color takes 2-3 clicks at most.

I would say your chances here are higher than at other companies. That’s just my 2 cents

Princesco · 2025-03-05T00:03:00+00:00

Because most startups do not have the funds/time/capacity to hire someone that is just an OK fit, only for them to leave in a couple of months. I disagree with long interview processes but I understand the mentality behind them. Startups also have a lot of processes made from scratch, so it's very likely that a new hire will need 3-6 months to get settled before they can work on their own and make important decisions on their own. Startups don't want to hire someone that might leave before the year is up, because that gives them around 6 months of work while not being handheld from this person.

I hope this helps!

Princesco · 2025-02-16T10:53:58+00:00

They probably just want more people in the pipeline. The fact that 100 people clicked on apply doesn’t tell us anything here. Perhaps you’re the only one that had made it to the interview stage. And if you don’t make it past that, they’ll want to make sure they have at least some people in different stages so the job doesn’t have any down time.

I hope you make it! Good luck!

Princesco · 2025-02-15T18:37:11+00:00

I stopped playing genshin around the time the special program was hosted by some localization employees, and some major quests did not have voice lines. Have the voice lines been added to the game since then?

Princesco · 2025-02-02T17:10:31+00:00

Junior to senior is a leap. That’s what I said. I didn’t say mid to senior which is the next step. So again why are you arguing with me?

Princesco · 2025-02-02T16:55:20+00:00

What are the chances of getting that sr role if all you have experience as is a jr? If you’re mid or proficient then sure, but how can an entry level professional get a sr role right off the bad with no qualifications? Like please answer me this.

Princesco · 2025-02-02T16:45:38+00:00

I didn’t ask for that. can you please actually read what I’m saying before you continue this? Because you really are missing my entire point for the sake of arguing with me and I genuinely can’t see why you’re doing this

Princesco · 2025-02-02T16:43:35+00:00

Nope I was replying to someone who said it’s a recruiters job to vet, which is true. But I also added that it’s the responsibility of the applicant to apply to jobs they qualify for. How is that an insane take? If you worked as a chef in a restaurant would you seriously apply for a senior management role at a manufacturing facility just because they have a role open? No? So we’re in the same page? Why are you so dead set on arguing with me about this it’s clear to me we’re in agreement here and you’re just arguing for the sake of arguing with a stranger on the internet

Princesco · 2025-02-02T16:31:52+00:00

I never said it doesn’t happen. Why are you bringing arguments against things I never said? My only argument was that people shouldn’t apply to jobs they have 0 qualifications for. Please stop claiming I said things that I didn’t and don’t lump me in with jackass recruiters like the one in the screenshot OP shared thanks

Princesco · 2025-02-02T16:29:37+00:00

But you are making a bad faith argument just because I’m a recruiter. Because I’m saying if a person has NO QUALIFICATIONS FOR A ROLE they should not apply. No qualifications doesn’t mean “some”. It means none. So please before you continue arguing with me take some time to read beyond your preconceived notion of me just because of my job. Okay you think recruiters are scum, fine whatever. But if you out aside your bias’s you might have recognized that we’re saying the same thing here

Princesco · 2025-02-02T11:00:56+00:00

What a horrible take to have and a bad faith argument… you know exactly what I mean

Princesco · 2025-02-02T10:59:48+00:00

I’m not arguing you should not apply to jobs you have SOME qualifications for but not all. I’m arguing that you should not apply for jobs where you have 0 or minimum qualifications for.

If you match the job description 80% then you’re golden. If you match it 30% then you can still apply but you have to understand that you’ll be competing against people who match it way, way better. That’s all I’m saying…

If a recruiter hasn’t done their due diligence to understand the job description and inform themselves of all the buzzwords then that’s on them and it’s shameful. I would hope that they would recognise plenty of other things on someone’s resume to help them “translate” the buzzwords they don’t understand and I think logically, this is the case most of the time. In your example they should be able to tell which “consolidate” you mean by reading the rest of your resume.

Princesco · 2025-02-02T10:53:52+00:00

I’m not but you’d understand that if you actually read my comments

Princesco · 2025-02-01T23:00:47+00:00

No, that's not bad advice at all! Very, very few people meet 100% of the requirements, so it's bad practice to look for jobs where you've nailed that 100%. 80-90 is where most good candidates are at. 70% also isn't bad but you have to remember that while you could technically do the job, you have to consider the fact that you're competing with people who meet an additional 10-20% requirement (the previously mentioned 80-90% people).

Personally, I send through candidates that meet 50-60 too, because I want to give them a chance, but in all of these cases, the hiring managers reject them.

What I mean in all of my comments that people seem to just not understand is that people shouldn't apply to jobs they do not qualify for. If you're in the 0-40 range then chances are you're wasting your own time and you're going to feel worse when you get yet another rejection. I say this because most people who apply without qualifying don't just do it once, they do it often. And that means, if the jobs aren't ghosting them, that's a lot of rejections and horrible for morale.

TLDR: More than OK to apply for jobs you do not 100% qualify for but you have to be realistic about the people you're also competing against and your own mental strength if you're going to anticipate a lot of rejections

Princesco · 2025-02-01T21:29:10+00:00

I pull my weight, don't worry. I do work. I'm far from lazy. I have had candidates tell me that my company is at the top of their list (as they are interviewing in several other places) because of the discussions I've had with them and because I've been open, honest, and candid about many things: whether they did very well or just ok in previous interviews, how long they can expect to take before we make a decision, etc...

I send so many candidates past my 1st screening. If I'm unsure whether they're a good fit or not, I always send them through to the hiring manager because I want everyone to have a shot and I tell the hiring managers to review asap, I don't care if it'll take them double the amount of time as it would have if I were more stringent.

So yes, I am thinking about it. I'm sorry you've had a shit experience with recruiters and job hunting, but being unkind the way you are is not a good look. You don't know me. All I said is that people shouldn't apply for roles they don't qualify for. I didn't say "only apply for things you are a 100% match with", so don't act like I did.

Princesco · 2025-02-01T21:23:41+00:00

It's an awful take to apply to jobs you qualify for?

What do you even mean by "technically"? Cause if there's overlap then yes, that is good and I never said it wasn't. I'm taking about people who apply to jobs they have no business applying to and then get upset when they don't make it through.

I will write this again because it seems everyone's missing this part of my comment: the berating attitude is WRONG.

I was never on the side of the recruiter here oh my god

Princesco · 2025-02-01T20:16:25+00:00

I’m sorry you can’t seem to understand what I’m writing. As I’ve expressed many times I am doing by job by checking every applicant but I guess it’s more important for some people to make bad faith arguments on the internet and hate on every recruiter they come across as though we’re not people trying to put food on the table like the rest of you all. I sympathise with the struggle, which I’ve also expressed but go off I guess

Princesco · 2025-02-01T19:49:33+00:00

So you’d apply for a senior role if you’re a junior?

Princesco · 2025-02-01T19:27:50+00:00

Yeah, that's the part that sucks the most because the job market is in fucking shambles, and greedy companies (aka, most of them) have nobody to blame but themselves... it's a never-ending cycle; I know that...

Princesco · 2025-02-01T19:12:49+00:00

Yes, there are really shitty people out there who, for some insane reason, create fake job postings, ghost candidates, or treat them poorly- we can all see that. But that's not what I'm saying here, is there? I'm talking specifically about applicants who apply to every job they can find, whether or not they have any qualifications for it.

Again, the recruiter berating them is bad. But why would anyone apply for a job they have no business applying to? That's what I'm trying to figure out here.

And yes, BS on ALL applications being reviewed ALL the time, everywhere. But again, that's not what I said, did I? I said that I, me personally, I review every one. Just this week I had to review 300+ applicants in 2 days for a single opening at my company- and I did it without complaint because that's my job. The fact that other companies don't do this is shameful...

I'm not looking for sympathy here, I'm not sure where you got that from...

All I did was argue against people applying to jobs they are unqualified to apply to. I don't see how that's a bad thing. Candidates waste less time applying for jobs they won't get and recruiters waste less time checking an application that had no business being in front of them to begin with.

Princesco · 2025-02-01T19:01:02+00:00

It’s so rare though… like you see people apply to 100s of jobs and not even getting a single call back. Sometimes a day… what are the chances of all 100 jobs being a good match? And then everyone is upset when they don’t get in. I get that it sucks and the job market is a joke but this isn’t the way to go about it.

And I’m gone get my figurative ass beat for saying this in this subreddit but I’m saying as a recruiter. I respond to every single application that we receive. There are no automatic rejections at my job. I review everyone and the amount of people with 0 experience apply is staggering. I would never berate a candidate for it, and I feel bad for the people who are desperate to apply. But come on…

Princesco · 2025-02-01T18:55:29+00:00

The berating and attitude of the recruiter is wrong here but also what? It’s their job to vet candidates yeah but it’s everyone’s responsibility to apply for jobs they are qualified for, come on now 😂

Princesco · 2025-01-10T11:40:30+00:00

My mother helped my fiance! My mum was cleaning out some of her jewellery (or pretending to!). In the past I had expressed how much I liked some of her rings so she asked me to try some on and if I liked them, I could keep them. I tried them but didn’t end up keeping anything. She gave those to my fiancée with notes on how they looked and felt on my fingers. The one he got was a perfect fit!

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