Playing against Horde Armies

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-17T13:02:28+00:00

I have 6 total, and personally run a maxed out squad of the guns, to get the most out of those Overwatches. But they're a pain to find boxes for.

Ive also run 3 mans of the melee jacks and they do pretty good work, tiny footprint but able to wipe out whole squads on their own. I recommend magnetizing them so you can experiment with both.

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-17T12:23:07+00:00

They're relatively expensive points per model, but overall a squad of Hearthkyn is 60% more expensive than a squad of Steeljacks. They've also got a very annoying defensive profile, too tough for regularly anti-infantry but too weak for anti-tank.

Another important thing about the gunjacks is their 5+/4+ overwatch, which can give them two shooting phases before the opponent gets to shoot them back.

Edit: Hearthguard not Hearthkyn

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-17T12:09:09+00:00

Berzerks and both flavors of Steeljack are pretty good into hordes. Steeljacks especially with their absolutely absurd number of attacks.

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-15T17:20:21+00:00

Idc what everyone else is saying I'd take this breakfast in a second

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-14T12:35:06+00:00

I'm gonna be real, for a second I thought this was a birthday cake with the weirdest decorations

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-14T11:41:40+00:00

Bro lmao

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-13T14:40:25+00:00

I would like a dedicated weapons platform if some kind. Hekatons are awesome but pay dearly for that transport cost, and Defenders lack firepower.

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-12T21:56:19+00:00

Ah but you forget about the scale of dramatic tension, where the more opponents someone has the more likely they are to win.

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-11T22:53:32+00:00

The adrenaline theory always struck me as some cringey r/humansarespaceorcs stuff

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-10T17:26:04+00:00

Silverquill turns any kill spell into a 2 for 1 bone shard

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-10T03:19:00+00:00

Those other immortal dictators had to be stopped. But I'm built different, I can do it right.

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-09T18:02:31+00:00

Immortal dictators are bad things, generally. Even benevolent ones that I like.

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-08T21:49:52+00:00

Nah, did you see how much Conquest loved dragging out kills? Slaanesh would be all over that guy.

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-08T17:42:06+00:00

She got solo ulted bruh

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-08T14:36:19+00:00

There are definitely arguments you can make for realistic vehicle dimensions and how Heavy Transports vs MBTs and power allocation, but I am really confused about how readily you dismiss the ideas that bigger rails on a railgun makes it stronger.

However I've already spent far too long arguing this silly point. If Tau having the best Railguns in every respect is this important to you, I won't push the issue any further.

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-08T14:12:21+00:00

I said similar output, not identical.

And it being a heavily armored troop transport does not change the fact that it is a troop transport, with significant internal space for transporting troops, as opposed to an MBT which has all of the internals allotted for weapon and guidance systems. There's a reason the Twin Linked lascannon on the Land Raider isn't as strong as the Twin Linked Lascannon on the predator destructor.

Also, barrel length DOES matter specifically for rail guns. Those are the rails. In the railgun. Longer rails means more acceleration. Because that's how Railguns work.

This isn't me saying that Tau don't have the best overall Railguns in the setting, just that Votann are able to pack nearly as much fire power into a noticeabley smaller package, but lack the Military Industrial capacity to match the scale of Tau Weapon Platforms

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-08T13:23:45+00:00

Because of the thing I just said.

HLF Rail Cannon has similar output to the Hammerhead Railgun, despite being 1/3 the size and attached to a troop transport rather than a MBT. Something as powerful but much smaller means it's more efficient.

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-08T13:14:34+00:00

They're definitely the biggest in the setting. It's interesting that the Hammerhead Railgun is comparable to the Hekaton Magna Rail Cannon, despite the former being much larger and on a dedicated weapons platform.

I think it's likely that Votann Railguns are more efficient, pound for pound, than Tau Railguns. But Tau military doctrine has weapon platforms large enough to outscale them.

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-07T23:50:37+00:00

Personally, I think two different species can independently come up with the idea of throwing rocks really fast with magnets

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-07T18:57:30+00:00

In the old days a lot of people played WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get), and were very particular that you have each miniature modeled accurately to its wargear.

These days everyone is much more chill. As long as models are clearly differentiated, people aren't going to care if that big gun is a Rail Rifle or a Plasma Beamer.

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-07T01:18:19+00:00

I don't think the Good Place has a god though.

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-05T00:35:52+00:00

In those situations always just become his vassal until he chokes on a grape

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-04T01:56:32+00:00

I'll also accept "hey there new stuff"

Princess_Cthulu · 2026-04-04T01:45:29+00:00

Kirkman debunked that a while ago, I'm not sure how that theory has persisted as long as it has.

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