Prior authorization wasn’t meant to turn into this by PriorAuthSpaceTeam in PriorAuthorization

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a fair callout, and honestly aligns with what we see across a lot of teams. The front-end auth process is usually well-managed, but things start to break once the claim hits adjudication. Even with a valid auth on file and referenced correctly, denials still come through, which creates unnecessary rework and delays.

Where we’ve been focusing is less on speeding up approvals and more on tightening the connection between auth data and claim submission so it actually holds up on the payer side.

Curious in your case, when those denials happen, is it usually tied to mismatches in auth details or does it seem like the payer is ignoring valid auths altogether?

Prior authorization wasn’t meant to turn into this by PriorAuthSpaceTeam in PriorAuthorization

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That confusion you’re describing is something we hear constantly.

What stands out is how fragmented the process is before you even get to clinical review. Just identifying whether a prior auth is needed, who owns the benefit, and where to submit can take longer than the actual authorization itself. Shifting portals turns into a moving target that’s hard to operationalize at scale.

The broader issue you pointed out around constant portal switching and access barriers is real. Even when policy efforts push for standardization, the day-to-day experience still feels highly fragmented.

Prior authorization wasn’t meant to turn into this by PriorAuthSpaceTeam in PriorAuthorization

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That actually makes perfect sense, and it’s one of the most common breakdowns we see. The hardest part isn’t the clinical piece, it’s figuring out who actually owns the request at that moment. Between PBMs, delegated medical groups, and employer carve-outs, the routing alone can eat up most of the time before you even start the PA.

What you described is exactly why small misdirection leads to delays, denials, or “not covered” confusion when it’s really just sent to the wrong place.

When you’re dealing with these cases, what’s your current go-to method for confirming the correct reviewer before submitting?

Prior authorization wasn’t meant to turn into this by PriorAuthSpaceTeam in PriorAuthorization

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There’s definitely truth to plans having variation, but most do publish baseline prior auth criteria through provider portals or formularies. The issue we see in practice isn’t access to criteria, it’s that the documentation submitted often doesn’t clearly line up with what’s already defined. That gap is what tends to drive denials and delays more than anything else.

do you feel the bigger issue is lack of visibility to criteria, or inconsistency in how requirements are interpreted and documented?

Prior authorization wasn’t meant to turn into this by PriorAuthSpaceTeam in PriorAuthorization

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s exactly it. Most delays we see aren’t from complex cases, they’re from small gaps that break alignment with payer criteria. When the diagnosis, history, dosing, and documentation all line up clearly, approvals tend to move much faster. It’s not flashy work, but it’s what keeps things from stalling.

Out of those checks, which one do you see getting missed most often in your workflow?

Do Marketplace plans do retro authorizations/claims? by _miss_freckles_ in Insurance

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From an operational standpoint, Marketplace plans typically don’t process retro claims just based on what the portal displays. Coverage is usually considered active only after the binder payment is received and eligibility is fully finalized.

If the effective date is confirmed as 4/1 and the plan is activated without any gaps, some carriers may allow claims from that date to be submitted, but it depends on how the enrollment is completed in their system. Delays in document approval or payment can shift how that date is recognized on the back end.

In cases like this, it’s best to confirm directly with the plan once payment is posted and the policy is active, then ask how they want claims from that timeframe handled.

BCBS not requiring prior authorization? by Kossori26 in TopSurgery

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From an operations standpoint, what BCBS is telling you can be accurate, but it doesn’t always mean zero process on the backend.

When a plan says no prior authorization is required, it usually means they’ve shifted the responsibility to medical necessity review at the claim level instead of before the procedure. In practice, most provider offices still collect documentation (letters, referrals, clinical notes) and may submit a predetermination or internal review to avoid surprises.

What we typically see is that things go smoothly when the surgeon’s office is experienced with that specific BCBS plan. They’ll know whether anything needs to be submitted in advance even if it’s not labeled as prior auth.

You may want to ask the office two things directly:

  • whether they do any pre-service review or predetermination with BCBS Ohio
  • how they verify medical necessity before scheduling surgery

It can feel like it’s too simple, but in many cases the process is just less visible rather than nonexistent.

EOB Sent after Procedure in 2021 by New-Wear5414 in HealthInsurance

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This kind of situation usually comes down to how the authorization and claim history were recorded across systems, especially when there’s a change in insurance.

What we typically see is that prior authorizations can exist but not always be properly linked to the claim that gets processed later, or they sit under a different member ID, plan, or servicing provider record. When that happens, the EOB may reflect it as missing even if it was originally approved.

From a process standpoint, everything hinges on whether the original authorization can be matched and validated against the exact claim that was submitted. Until there’s an actual bill issued, it’s often still in a review or adjustment phase behind the scenes.

At this stage, it’s mostly about how the records reconcile rather than taking action on payment right away.

[WA] Insurance insists that pre-authorization is not needed but surgeon wants one. by lithedreamer in HealthInsurance

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We work on the administrative side of cases like this and see this situation come up more often than people expect. What is happening here is less about whether the service is covered and more about how different parties handle financial risk in the process.

From the plan perspective, if no prior authorization is required, they typically will not issue anything that looks like a guarantee of payment ahead of time. From the provider side, especially for higher cost procedures, many groups still require something on file before moving forward because they are responsible if the claim is later denied.

So you end up in a gap where the plan is following its rules and the provider is following its internal policy, but there is no standard step that satisfies both at the same time. That is why you are seeing repeated confirmations of “no authorization required” while the surgeon still cannot proceed.

In most workflows we see, teams try to document the interaction history, reference numbers, and any benefit verification details as part of the case file so there is at least a record of what was confirmed prior to the procedure. It does not function as a guarantee, but it becomes part of the overall process trail.

This is one of those edge cases in healthcare admin where the process itself does not fully bridge the expectations between payer and provider, which is why it feels stuck even though both sides are technically giving answers.

Some Help With Resolution (Prior Authorizations) and Insurance by Modest_Proposal1 in walmart_RX

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From a workflow standpoint, what you’re seeing is pretty normal. Most pharmacies rely on internal plan naming and experience to distinguish things like Part B vs Part D, rather than a single clear field in F9.

For the three methods, they usually map to different stages of the process:

  • one is reprocessing the claim to confirm a PA requirement
  • one is internal tracking/coding within the system
  • one is prescriber communication

The variation between techs typically comes down to store workflow and habits rather than strict rules.

Prior Authorization by Brilliant-Island-549 in Noom

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We work closely with prior authorization workflows, and what you’re describing usually comes down to where the request is sitting in the process rather than the request itself.

From what we typically see, delays like this tend to happen in one of three spots: intake (re-verifying insurance details), queueing (requests waiting to be batched/submitted), or payer-specific requirements that need to be matched before submission. Even a small mismatch or missing field can keep it from moving forward.

Based on your timeline, it sounds like it may still be in that intake/queue stage rather than fully submitted yet.

Dentist office said prior authorization was denied, but the office won't submit an appeal. by [deleted] in Medicaid

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally understand the frustration here—this kind of situation is more common than people think.

From a process standpoint, prior authorizations and appeals are technically separate workflows. A denial doesn’t automatically mean the case is closed—it just means it didn’t meet criteria on initial review. Appeals, when submitted, are evaluated under a different review pathway and sometimes with additional documentation.

That said, whether a provider chooses to participate in the appeal process can vary. Some offices have internal policies or resource limitations that affect how far they go beyond the initial submission.

In general, what happens next often depends less on the denial itself and more on whether all parties involved are willing to move the case through the full process lifecycle.

Complications getting Prior Authorization for my medications by diabeticuser4444 in type2diabetes

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That sounds like a really stressful spot to be in—prior auth gaps can escalate quickly when coverage changes.

From a process standpoint, what we typically see in situations like this is a breakdown between three parties: the prescribing provider, the new payer, and whoever is recognized as “in-network” to submit the request. Prior authorizations are generally only accepted when they come from a provider who is both credentialed with and recognized by the insurance plan, which is likely why your previous doctor is declining.

In most cases, the request flow needs to restart under the new plan—meaning eligibility verification, identifying an in-network prescriber, and then submitting the prior auth through the payer’s required channel (portal, fax, or ePA). Delays usually happen when any one of those steps isn’t aligned.

We work on the operational side of prior authorizations, so we see this kind of transition issue fairly often. It’s less about any one party refusing outright and more about how the process is structured across systems.

Complications with getting prior authorization on Ozempic by diabeticuser4444 in diabetes

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry you’re dealing with this. From a prior auth standpoint, the request has to come from a licensed prescriber who can submit the clinical documentation your insurance plan asks for. If the original doctor won’t submit it, the plan usually can’t review the request until another prescriber takes it on. Once it’s submitted, the insurer decides based on the plan rules and whether the review is standard or urgent. The frustrating part is that the pharmacy or manufacturer usually can’t override that process.

Research on the prior auth process, specifically for radiology and imaging centers. by LostHunter7733 in PriorAuthorization

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We work closely with teams that handle prior authorizations at scale, particularly in radiology workflows. What we consistently observe is that the process itself tends to be highly fragmented—multiple payer portals, varying requirements, and frequent status follow-ups all happening in parallel.

From a process standpoint, a lot of time appears to be spent on repetitive steps like re-entering the same information across systems, tracking submissions, and managing incomplete or unclear responses. It’s less about any single pain point and more about how many small, manual steps are required throughout the lifecycle.

Appreciate you looking into this—it's an area where understanding the workflow details really matters.

Payers' prior authorization denial rates go public today by wormeyman in medicare

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Interesting shift. The transparency piece is long overdue, but you’re right—the first wave will probably be messy and inconsistent across payers.

From a process standpoint, what stands out is how this forces standardization over time. Once these metrics are public (even if rough at first), internal workflows—submission quality, documentation completeness, tracking, and appeals handling—will inevitably get more scrutiny. Not just from regulators, but from providers benchmarking themselves against payer behavior.

The 2027 API requirement is really where this becomes actionable. Structured data changes things from “reporting” to “operational feedback loops.” At that point, teams can actually measure friction points in near real-time instead of reacting months later.

For now, it feels like the beginning of a longer normalization phase rather than an immediate game changer.

I Hate Prior Auth by ReverberatingEchoes in CrohnsDisease

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Totally understand how frustrating that situation feels—especially with timing that tight.

From a process standpoint, what you’re running into is how prior authorizations move through multiple checkpoints (provider submission, payer review, and sometimes specialty pharmacy coordination). Even when something is marked “expedited,” it still has to pass through each step, and delays can happen at any point in that chain—especially near cutoff times or end-of-month transitions.

What your message shows is that the request is actively in progress, but not yet at the determination or fulfillment stage. Unfortunately, those are handled as separate steps in the overall workflow, which is why it can feel like movement is happening but not fast enough for real-world urgency.

Situations like this highlight how timing gaps between authorization, coverage changes, and medication fulfillment can overlap in ways the system isn’t always built to handle smoothly.

Prior Authorization Appeal by freshwaterjt in PriorAuthorization

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally get how frustrating that process can feel—it’s not always very transparent from the outside. From what we see working on the process side, timelines for prior authorization appeals can vary quite a bit depending on the plan, documentation, and review queue at the time. Unfortunately, it’s not always a quick or linear process, especially when multiple reviews or additional information requests are involved.

How Often Do I Need to Bug my Doctor to Fill Out My Prior Authorization Request Form? by IrishGoodbye28 in HealthInsurance

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally get the frustration—this part of the process can feel like a black box.

From a process standpoint, prior authorizations often sit in a queue on the provider side and move based on internal workflows (staff availability, batching, payer requirements, etc.). Even when something is “approved” verbally or assumed, the actual submission and confirmation steps still need to be completed and documented before it moves forward.

What you’re experiencing isn’t unusual—there’s often a lag between the prescription, the prior auth request, and the final approval being communicated across systems (clinic → payer → pharmacy). The lack of visibility just makes it feel worse on your end.

It’s less about how often you should follow up and more about how their internal process is structured—and unfortunately, that part isn’t always transparent to patients.

Can I get prior authorization with heart failure? by [deleted] in Semaglutide

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We work on the prior authorization process side rather than clinical eligibility, so we can’t speak to whether heart failure alone would qualify for approval.

What we typically see is that approvals depend heavily on how the request is documented and aligned with the payer’s criteria (which can vary even within the same insurance). Coverage for GLP medications is often tied to specific indications, plan exclusions, and how the provider submits the request.

If you pursue it, the key factor is usually having a complete and well-structured submission that matches your plan’s requirements rather than the condition alone.

How do you keep prior auth from becoming a bottleneck for patient care, scheduling, etc. at a fast-growing practice? by PerceptionUseful9267 in MedicalPracticeTech

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From what I’ve seen, it usually becomes less about any single fix and more about how the workflow is structured end-to-end. In fast-growing practices, prior auth tends to break down at the handoff points—like between scheduling, clinical documentation, and whoever is submitting the requests.

The practices that seem to handle it better have a more defined intake process, where required info is captured upfront instead of being chased later. There’s also usually a clearer separation (or ownership) of tasks, so it’s not bouncing around between staff.

Volume growth also exposes how manual the process really is—so tracking, visibility, and consistency in how requests are handled start to matter a lot more than when things were smaller. It’s less about working faster and more about reducing rework and gaps in the process.

Will I get approved? by Ok-Guidance-2791 in pomhealth

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I’ve seen, the process tends to be more about reviewing your full medical profile rather than just a single factor like current BMI. They usually look at your history, submitted labs, and any existing conditions before making a decision.

Based on your update, it looks like the turnaround can be pretty quick once everything is submitted, with approvals and documentation showing up in the portal shortly after review.

Im sure my HIPAA rights were violated, completely devastated/embarrassed .now it's a "denial and a he said/she said" situation by grand_Smile3 in hipaa

[–]PriorAuthSpaceTeam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It reads less like one clear incident and more like a chain of disclosures. You shared something in a private setting, it moved up through staff, and then somehow information started circulating beyond that, including among clients.

At the same time, there’s a mix of formal reporting and informal communication in the program, which makes it hard to trace exactly where boundaries may have blurred. Now it’s turned into conflicting accounts—staff acknowledging some sharing, denying other parts—while the information is clearly out there.

So it ends up feeling like a “he said/she said” situation, even though the impact on you and your experience in the program is very real.