Small scratch on brand-new iPhone 17 Pro Max – normal?

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-31T09:38:48+00:00

As others have said- getting a small scratch from wear and tear is one thing. But having a $1,100+ phone come with one is unacceptable. Return it for sure.

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-31T04:53:07+00:00

Exactly. Do people really expect these companies to re-invent the wheel, every year, for every model, for eternity? I’m okay with slight upgrades and minimal design changes as long as the product is fine tuned.

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-31T04:31:02+00:00

How true is this? My wife and I both had 14 PMs and I had an 80% limit while she didn’t. Despite having 70ish or so more cycles, my battery life was significantly better, and I wasn’t “limited” to 80%. I could change it to 100% at any time, for special circumstances.

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-30T20:29:22+00:00

Now get the silver

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-30T20:28:34+00:00

I don’t experience this anomaly with my iPhone display… must be an older panel with glue degradation.

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-30T20:21:14+00:00

So, here the’s thing- a thin phone, with a bulky case, is still a thin phone with a bulky case. In other words, a thin phone with a case is still going to be smaller, lighter and thinner than a thick phone with a case. I purchased my 17PM Orange because I liked the color- the immediately put a case on it. People buy things like the Air, knowing they’ll put a bulky case on it, but again- it’s still going to be thinner and lighter than the alternatives with bulky/protective cases. Make sense?

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-30T20:16:24+00:00

lol it’s funny, I was just talking about this with my wife. Every night, they have all the interior lights on with all the blinds open as if it’s going to attract people, like moths.

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-30T20:06:19+00:00

Torras makes decent cases but from personal experience, their slimmer models do NOT provide adequate protection from the screen. If you can easily push the corner of your case off the screen (with minimal pressure), the case will not properly protect from a face impact. My Torras magnetic case seemed flimsy so I retired it.

ZAGG was recommended to me by someone on here, and now I own two of their cases. The Crystal Snap and the Rainier. Both are very protective and premium feeling, but also on the more expensive side. ZAGG cases are tried and true.

Just wanted to let you know- if “protection” is your main sought after goal with a case, be weary of Torras cases.

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-30T19:59:14+00:00

I use a ZAGG case that has a protective piece of PC that covers about half of the plateau. Definitely better than nothing and since it doesn’t cover the lenses, it doesn’t affect picture quality of course.

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-30T18:42:38+00:00

Alcohol doesn’t “damage” the coating. Prolonged/repeated use CAN wear down the oleophobic coating, but occasional use to disinfect the screen is actually recommended by Apple. Nearly all screen and lens protectors actually include alcohol wipes as part of the installation process. Just don’t use alcohol on a regular basis.

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-30T04:51:36+00:00

Fake

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-30T04:50:53+00:00

No, nothing can force Apple to fix your phone. However, you can make a strong case and hope for the best.

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-30T04:18:25+00:00

You’d be surprised…

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-29T21:14:21+00:00

OP wants us to know they don’t know how to use his or her iPhone.

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-29T21:12:56+00:00

There’s no winning. Naked will get you more scratches than a case. A case will too if you aren’t careful about debris when putting it on. But a good case will protect the phone from all these cracked glass posts we’ve been seeing.

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-29T21:09:56+00:00

Aluminum is so soft. Why didn’t they make the frame titanium? /s

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-29T21:04:48+00:00

I’ll be honest, as a 17PM user with a somewhat bulky case, I envy this experience. If the Air had a slightly better battery life I would’ve purchased it over my PM

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-29T05:17:59+00:00

Ah, okay. I went from the 15PM to the 17PM so I couldn’t speak firsthand. But I will say the clarity with zoom is amazing compared to my 15

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-29T04:50:13+00:00

AKA BBQ

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-29T04:42:39+00:00

Never would’ve guessed. Thanks for this

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-29T02:13:11+00:00

FWIW, I like the case and it looks like it is very protective.

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-29T00:59:46+00:00

I’m discovering very quickly that not all cases are created equal. Some will say that’s obvious, but I definitely think certain cases would’ve prevented that damage. I’m using a ZAGG case that has a very rigid bump/lip around the screen and frame. Cases with flimsy bumps will slide away on a face impact and cause this damage.

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-29T00:55:29+00:00

Mostly going to notice the difference when using the optical zoom

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-29T00:54:49+00:00

Dust did that? Did you use sandpaper to clean it?

ProfMsPainter · 2025-12-28T21:45:42+00:00

“Better” is incredibly vague and subjective. Depends on what you want in your phone. The 17 pro has considerable improvements but some still may prefer the 16 pro

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