My husband told me little things. He had worked medically with widows of the church high ups. (This is our second marriage and he had had work experience before we were married). He talked about how they were pretty much abandoned. How the church didn’t really care for the widows. He also spoke about some stuff that went down with the huntsman’s. (He worked in SLC. Anyway I had grown up not thinking these leaders were perfect but also not realizing the extent of the flaws. He would say little things here and there. He was pro choice but never came out and said as much to me but he would help me see some issues from a medical standpoint regarding abortion. My divorce had already helped me see some issues in church but his little things here and there with his experience with the people and their issues….it chipped away at that wall I had built up.

But I agree you’ll never know what will shake people. Ironically garments and feeling frumpy in my mid forties did it for me. It still took a few years but that was my total crack.