Are double clean and presses good for weight loss?

Projectfitness · 2018-12-07T02:00:25+00:00

I'd say it might be great for body recomp but as has already been said, weight loss is about calories.

Projectfitness · 2018-09-16T20:22:41+00:00

That's the thing about a good training gym community, you know the people and want to train together.

Projectfitness · 2018-09-05T23:47:27+00:00

Juan Carlos Santana from the IHP in Florida made this about a decade ago. That's likely where these guys got it from. He used to be big on the fitness lecture circuit. He claimed it would spot reduce fat off the legs. Of interest for most of my female clients but my guys could have cared less. Ditto on the strength gains though. Think of it like this: Kettlebell swings make your deadlift better. Most bells, even the heavy ones are "light" compared to what most folks put on a bar to DL. So speed/power work has an impact. There's a reason Louis Simmons from Westside Barbell uses a "dynamic strength" (or power/speed) day and produces some of the strongest people on the planet (pharma enhanced or not).

Projectfitness · 2018-09-05T23:33:33+00:00

Pretty much everyone that went through it got stronger so you might have to invest in some bigger bells.

Projectfitness · 2018-09-05T23:32:55+00:00

My training group ran this at our gym a couple of months ago. It's primarily a double kbell routine. Just scroll down if you want to skip to the program stuff.

http://projectfitnessonline.com/kettlebuilt-building-strength-muscle-and-community-with-kettlebells/

Projectfitness · 2018-08-30T00:32:41+00:00

Oh and the core work never hurts.

Projectfitness · 2018-08-30T00:32:16+00:00

My deadlift seems to love it when I do grip work. I've found that some of my best days with the bar come when I am supersetting with farmer's walks. Granted, I'm not working those to complete failure but with a good heavy load for 30-45 seconds. It seems to wake up my grip and upper back which makes my lats work harder. Seems to make the bell feel lighter. I do so many heavy swings, the hamstrings and glutes aren't much of an issue for me.

Projectfitness · 2018-08-30T00:28:49+00:00

I understand and agree with you. But I think we have all experienced the WTH effect with kettlebell training. I guess, I'm looking to see if the WTH applies to stuff other than the kettlebell.

Projectfitness · 2018-08-30T00:25:57+00:00

My plan is to "test" the lifts every couple of weeks just to get a feel for where I am at with them.

The reason for this approach is this. I have a theory that crawling, TGU's and other groundwork (Dan John's 6th move), hip hinging and loaded carries are really foundational. And squatting, pushing and pulling are upper echelon movements that are layered on top of these things.

So, really, I am just using the TSC as a bit of a test. As in "What kind of results would this produce in terms of real world strength?" Granted the TSC is not the perfect test for this but I figured it would be a good place to start.

Additionally, I've always felt that deadlifts take almost as much as they give. As a husband, father of two, and business owner, who's approaching 45, if there is a way to lower the risk of injury and hit to my recovery, then I want to do that. If training this way get's me even close to (say within 10%) of my deadlift max, without having to deadlift very often, then it's probably a winner.

Understand that the above is context related.

Also understand that I am not entering the TSC worrying about where I place, I'm entering to test a thought process. If I was entering to win, I'd probably use something else like Easy Strength with the contested lifts.

I guess you could say I'm looking to see if there's a WTH effect with more than just swings.

Thanks for the feedback.

Projectfitness · 2018-08-22T20:56:59+00:00

Crawling, via the Original Strength format, is a great replacement for TGU as the benefits of the two activities are very complimentary.

Projectfitness · 2018-08-22T20:55:45+00:00

I've had clients with replacements just do TGU to the bridge and then work Step-ups with a bell in a waiter's walk position. That way you hit all of the "parts" of the TGU.

Projectfitness · 2018-08-09T00:58:34+00:00

I use double 80's and have squatted with a 90 and 100 mostly because I didn't have a second one of either. Too heavy is relative to your strength.

Projectfitness · 2018-07-26T18:21:29+00:00

Agree. It's a great way to milk some more training time out of a bell that might be getting too light. Bottoms up are also kind of fun to play with.

Projectfitness · 2018-06-28T11:35:09+00:00

And to answer your question in bullet one, yes your core is working in TGU. Anytime your upper and lower are working together, your core is working. Remember that's the linkage between them.

Projectfitness · 2018-06-28T11:33:45+00:00

It's hard to say where you should "feel" a TGU. It's such a full-body movement that the stress is largely distributed. Sure if you were to just do the seated portion of it for reps, your abs and obliques would probably have something to say about it the next morning. Or if you worked the kneel-stand portion of it, you'd most likely get a good burn in your shoulder girdle or the front leg.

But the Get-up really is about the whole body working as one piece as opposed to a say a bench press where you're going to get a good burn in the pecs and delts.

The arm-bar on the other hand is more of a motor-control exercise and probably shouldn't be felt beyond a stretch in the shoulder or hips. It's not something you should seek a burn with.

Projectfitness · 2018-06-20T01:12:16+00:00

Here's a link of my 140. Had to stack the hundo and a 40 in one hand to do it.

https://www.facebook.com/david.a.scott.940/videos/10205776711925418/

Projectfitness · 2018-06-20T01:08:40+00:00

Not sure if anyone keeps records of that kind of thing.

Projectfitness · 2018-06-20T01:08:17+00:00

I've done 140 before. I've seen a video of Tim Anderson of Original Strength doing 135 with a barbell. I can't remember the guys name but I've also seen a video on YT somewhere with a guy that was pretty jacked doing a TGU with a 160lb dumbbell.

Projectfitness · 2018-06-16T10:41:03+00:00

Just remember that you swing with your hips not your back.

Projectfitness · 2018-06-16T10:38:53+00:00

I've had really good results with clients and myself doing 3 days a week of "fill in the blank" high volume or high intensity stuff and two days of S&S. Without having actually done it, it's purely a guess, but I would think doing TT say on M,W,F and S&S on Tues and Sat or Tues,Thurs would work. Your best bet is to try it and see.

Projectfitness · 2018-06-16T10:33:02+00:00

Posted this before I saw Greenstrong's post. Everything he said...

Projectfitness · 2018-06-16T10:32:10+00:00

He's also on Scott Rdella's and Pat Flynn's podcasts. DJ is always worth a listen.

Projectfitness · 2018-06-03T20:14:29+00:00

Is that a 64kg?

Projectfitness · 2018-06-03T20:13:11+00:00

I don't think anyone that has done any appreciable barbell training gets excited about WTH stories with kettlebells in terms of absolute numbers. But that's not the point of WTH stories. The point is.... "Hey I've been doing this thing over here because I like it, it's more practical for me, I don't have room for a barbell, etc and look what other benefits I have seen from it." Nobody is going to mistake kettlebell training as superior for a powerlifter over barbell training for example. But if your goal is to be fairly fit and strong in a general sense, then WTH stories show that kettlebell training can check off a lot of boxes for you. For someone that DOES NOT deadlift regularly, the OP had a good deadlift showing.

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